Pierre Lees-Melou

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

Doesn't like beans according to the PinkUn and states that the English put them on everything.

Not quite true, but beans are very good for you, though.

Otherwise, he spoke well of his time at City but thought himself better than the Chumps and did not fancy the toll of games.

I particularly remember him for that miss when running on goal and generally considered him not up there as far as the PL goes and a bit of a disappointment as far as City were concerned. A bit of a self-pamperer too it seems.

Decent player, but he probably cost us a lot and I wouldn't want him back at Carrow Road whatever. Neither would the local greasy spoon by the sound of it.

Edited April 25 by BroadstairsR

[Fen Canary 1,456]

3 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

Doesn't like beans according to the PinkUn and states that the English put them on everything.

Not quite true, but beans are very good for you, though.

Otherwise, he spoke well of his time at City but thought himself better than the Chumps and did not fancy the toll of games.

I particularly remember him for that miss when running on goal and generally considered him not up there as far as the PL goes and a bit of a disappointment as far as City were concerned. A bit of a self-pamperer too it seems.

Decent player, but he probably cost us a lot and I wouldn't want him back at Carrow Road whatever. Neither would the local greasy spoon by the sound of it.

Was ok, but nothing special. No better than what we’ve got currently though in my opinion 

[cambridgeshire canary 7,798]

Was a decent player. Probably would have been good for the championship but fair enough not a divison for everyone.

 

As I recall after leaving us and going to France he did very well.

[jaberry2 769]

On the verge of a call up from France. Clearly has excelled where he is, but really shines a spotlight on how can only flourish if they choose to do so. His heart was never in the Champ or with us.

[Old Shuck 291]

Of numerous midfielders that have come and gone in recent years, Rupp is one of those who'd fit in well with our current squad.

PLM looked the part in flashes but they weren't sustained. The player he looked like he could be is now very much on show.

[chicken 3,086]

1 minute ago, Old Shuck said:

Of numerous midfielders that have come and gone in recent years, Rupp is one of those who'd fit in well with our current squad.

PLM looked the part in flashes but they weren't sustained. The player he looked like he could be is now very much on show.

1st season in English football in a team scrapping for survival with a pretty weak defence is not going to be the best conditions for a player to deliver consistantly.

As for Rupp, 33... plays for Aris in Greece... that in itself might suggest he's perhaps not been able to find the level he had for us. 

[Monty13 2,736]

He looked decent enough in a woeful team.

Not surprising he refused to drop to the Championship, look where he is now.

[cambridgeshire canary 7,798]

41 minutes ago, Old Shuck said:

Of numerous midfielders that have come and gone in recent years, Rupp is one of those who'd fit in well with our current squad.

PLM looked the part in flashes but they weren't sustained. The player he looked like he could be is now very much on show.

Did always feel Rupp was rather underated while here. Always put in a solid shift, never complained kept his head up and got on with it.

[Jimmy Raggatip 66]

probably playing in the Champions League next season. Definitely a case of what could have been if he'd been in a functional team

[The Raptor 1,573]

Was too inconsistent here. There were signs of greatness but he ,was always likely to struggle in a team not quite good enough for the top flight. Like so many of our premier league signings. 

Except Harry kane. He was just awful when he was here! 

[Six Pack 105]

Both Lees-Melou and Rudd would do a decent job for us in the Championship.

[JonnyJonnyRowe 973]

On 25/04/2024 at 08:19, Fen Canary said:

Was ok, but nothing special. No better than what we’ve got currently though in my opinion 

I think he'd have done very well in the Championship, but apparently didn't fancy sticking around to find out,  and Brest who he went to are not far from where he grew up, neighbouring province, and we got our money back on him,

I think it was Lukas Rupp that we missed more upon relegation.

[hogesar 10,765]

If PLM could play the second 45 as well as his first 45 he'd have been a player. Seemed to tire too early. Was a decent presser and was good on the ball though, would have done well in the Championship

[sgncfc 1,330]

The bloke is delusional if he thinks he should be a Premier League player - doesn't have the engine required. I disagree that he'd have done well in the Championship - not physical enough, he'd have been bypassed. Well suited to the French League obviously.

[BigFish 2,282]

12 hours ago, Six Pack said:

Both Lees-Melou and Rudd would do a decent job for us in the Championship.

Neither would get into the current starting 11

[Coneys Knee 1,050]

Just read a report that Trybull is interesting championship clubs. I’d take him back as a useful squad player in the champs

[BigFish 2,282]

12 hours ago, Six Pack said:

Both Lees-Melou and Rudd would do a decent job for us in the Championship.

Neither would get into the current starting 11

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,616]

OK, so he didn't get his call up to the France squad but he's been a key player for Brest this season who have finished third in Ligue Un and will play in the Champions League next season.

He's also top of the charts for ball recoveries in Europe's top five leagues this season, fifth for tackles won and tenth for blocks.

I never thought I'd live to see the day when he became one of Europe's top midfield enforcers. 

Je ne comprend pas.

[Grando 336]

33 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

OK, so he didn't get his call up to the France squad but he's been a key player for Brest this season who have finished third in Ligue Un and will play in the Champions League next season.

He's also top of the charts for ball recoveries in Europe's top five leagues this season, fifth for tackles won and tenth for blocks.

I never thought I'd live to see the day when he became one of Europe's top midfield enforcers. 

Je ne comprend pas.

Zut alors! C’est incredible.

[CDMullins 498]

1 hour ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

OK, so he didn't get his call up to the France squad but he's been a key player for Brest this season who have finished third in Ligue Un and will play in the Champions League next season.

He's also top of the charts for ball recoveries in Europe's top five leagues this season, fifth for tackles won and tenth for blocks.

I never thought I'd live to see the day when he became one of Europe's top midfield enforcers. 

Je ne comprend pas.

Made ‘Team Of The Year’ alongside Emery and Vitina

[canarybubbles 2,199]

Here we go again. Tzolis threads always end up with confident statements that German football is much poorer than English,  and now it's time to have a pop at the French.

Who next, the Spanish? Ah, but that's only Madrid and Barcelona, isn't it, and the rest are all rubbish? Atletico and Sevilla might just about get into the Championship playoffs and Villareal would be lucky to get promoted from League One.

I accept PLM didn't exactly shine in his year with us but he was certainly no worse than Gilmour or Williams (IMO, he was rather better). The fact that he's going to be playing in the Champions League next season might suggest that we screwed up rather than he wasn't good enough.

 

[GenerationA47 864]

4 hours ago, canarybubbles said:

Here we go again. Tzolis threads always end up with confident statements that German football is much poorer than English,  and now it's time to have a pop at the French.

Who next, the Spanish? Ah, but that's only Madrid and Barcelona, isn't it, and the rest are all rubbish? Atletico and Sevilla might just about get into the Championship playoffs and Villareal would be lucky to get promoted from League One.

I accept PLM didn't exactly shine in his year with us but he was certainly no worse than Gilmour or Williams (IMO, he was rather better). The fact that he's going to be playing in the Champions League next season might suggest that we screwed up rather than he wasn't good enough.

 

Or rather... as many seem to be suggesting, he was maybe simply better suited to the style & pace of French football vs Premier League, AND that he was on the back foot in a poor Norwich team at the time...

...so actually nothing to do with French football being crap, which nobody's even said

 

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

4 minutes ago, GenerationA47 said:

Or rather... as many seem to be suggesting, he was maybe simply better suited to the style & pace of French football vs Premier League, AND that he was on the back foot in a poor Norwich team at the time...

...so actually nothing to do with French football being crap, which nobody's even said

 

Precisely my thoughts - looked a decent enough player but appeared to completely run out of steam after an hour (or less).  

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,616]

9 hours ago, canarybubbles said:

Here we go again. Tzolis threads always end up with confident statements that German football is much poorer than English,  and now it's time to have a pop at the French.

Where has anyone said either of those things?

[DanTheMan 3]

Always felt PLM had ability but was a split second too slow for the Prem. Always took an unnecessary extra touch, lingered just too long on the ball, didn't move the ball quite quick enough.

[chicken 3,086]

He started off being played in one of the holding midfield positions. His first season in English football, in the premier league...

Looked much better in the 2nd half of the season when played further forward, where he'd played more of his games previously.

Was far more influential than Gilmour and Normann in the end.

Certainly took him time to get to grips with English football but then it has been said for donkeys years that it can take a season for players from oversees to come in and adapt. Sara and Nunez were far better this season than last, for example.

[The Great Mass Debater 1,202]

1 hour ago, chicken said:

Was far more influential than Gilmour and Normann in the end.

That would be an interesting statement to see backed up. Unitl he got injured Normann looked like our only genuinely Premier League quality player and our one hope of something. Never saw that player again though.

Be interesting to see some stats proving PLM was more influential. Im not being aggressive Im genuinely curious because I never really saw PLM do anything and Normann at least had his moments.

Think we can both agree Gilmour was carp

[chicken 3,086]

35 minutes ago, The Great Mass Debater said:

That would be an interesting statement to see backed up. Unitl he got injured Normann looked like our only genuinely Premier League quality player and our one hope of something. Never saw that player again though.

Be interesting to see some stats proving PLM was more influential. Im not being aggressive Im genuinely curious because I never really saw PLM do anything and Normann at least had his moments.

Think we can both agree Gilmour was carp

Don't worry, I don't see it as aggressive at all. "In the end", being by the end of the season. Normann looked good on the ball at times, but his positioning in midfield, left a lot to be desired. His anticipation and following of runs cost us goals on a couple of occasions

I think their respective careers since are pretty much the evidence needed in many ways. 

Edited May 20 by chicken

[The Great Mass Debater 1,202]

1 minute ago, chicken said:

I think their respective careers since are pretty much the evidence needed in many ways. 

A fair point. I just make the Tyson Fury argument, that a good first half of the season allows you to disregard anything that happend subsequently.

Normann was awful when he came back from injury, but looked the business at the start of the season. Mind you, Naismith had a fantastic debut...

My position is that although PLM looked good in pre-season, he never really actuated that in the season proper. Whereas though Normann was ball-locks in the second half his overall contribution was perhaps more?

PLM never looked at the races for me. Normann did, at least for a brief period