dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted December 18, 2023 According to the latest data, Carrow Road will be flooded by 2050. Does anyone know if this was raised at the AGM? In the screenshot below, the red area will be below the flood line. https://www.sportsustainability.org/news-events/the-stadium-is-on-fire#:~:text=The four under threat in,be entirely underwater by 2050. https://coastal.climatecentral.org/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Raptor 1,573 Posted December 18, 2023 Until I read the article I just thought delias wine barrels had burst and flooded the place! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worthy Nigelton 1,299 Posted December 18, 2023 By 2050 we'll be more worried with clean drinking water and crop failures than whether we win on a Saturday. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiScot 1,684 Posted December 18, 2023 Delia knows where to put her statue then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted December 18, 2023 People take the ****, laugh and joke but my daughter has shown me flood models whilst she was at uni and insurance companies use them all the while. Yes they are just models and forecasts, but being stuck between the Wensum and the Yare really isn't a great location. It's certainly an issue which someone needs to think about before sinking £50m-£100m on a new stand and I wouldn't invest in property around that location. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,708 Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Capt. Pants said: People take the ****, laugh and joke but my daughter has shown me flood models whilst she was at uni and insurance companies use them all the while. Yes they are just models and forecasts, but being stuck between the Wensum and the Yare really isn't a great location. It's certainly an issue which someone needs to think about before sinking £50m-£100m on a new stand and I wouldn't invest in property around that location. *sinking 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted December 18, 2023 31 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: People take the ****, laugh and joke but my daughter has shown me flood models whilst she was at uni and insurance companies use them all the while. Yes they are just models and forecasts, but being stuck between the Wensum and the Yare really isn't a great location. It's certainly an issue which someone needs to think about before sinking £50m-£100m on a new stand and I wouldn't invest in property around that location. Until 12 years ago I lived in Surlingham. A couple of weeks ago the water got close to the lines on the 2050 map. My old house is now uninsurable. The view in Surlingham is that flood defences were improved at Yarmouth and along the river almost as far as Brundall. All that has done is push the problem further inland. For some reason the construction of a new bridge in Yarmouth is also thought to be a cause but I don't understand why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 2,282 Posted December 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Until 12 years ago I lived in Surlingham. A couple of weeks ago the water got close to the lines on the 2050 map. My old house is now uninsurable. The view in Surlingham is that flood defences were improved at Yarmouth and along the river almost as far as Brundall. All that has done is push the problem further inland. For some reason the construction of a new bridge in Yarmouth is also thought to be a cause but I don't understand why. Where did you live @dylanisabaddog? The above is probably not true since the Gov created Flood Re. I live on The Street and certainly Aviva used to refuse to insure the house, but they do now. We are supposedly safe from 1 in 100 years event even with global warming and while some neighbours occasionally get a little jumpy about it, the flooding doesn't appear any worse than a decade ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 1,101 Posted December 18, 2023 4 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: According to the latest data, Carrow Road will be flooded by 2050. Does anyone know if this was raised at the AGM? In the screenshot below, the red area will be below the flood line. https://www.sportsustainability.org/news-events/the-stadium-is-on-fire#:~:text=The four under threat in,be entirely underwater by 2050. https://coastal.climatecentral.org/ Is that all the red wine flowing from the Directors’ box? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted December 18, 2023 Here is the 2050 projected Surlingham map. My house was on The Street and probably the lowest. We had 2 people pull out of purchases because of potential flooding before the current owners decided to ignore the warnings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy_Fitch 47 Posted December 18, 2023 Isn't Everton's new stadium practically floating? I'm not saying global warming and flooding isn't real. but I'm sure there will be flood defenses put in place in the next 20-30 years to stop a large area of residential, retail and entertainment from being flooded. If it wasn't for the Thames Barrier so much of London would be under water. I do however think a Wensum Barrier would then have a knock on flooding effect on other areas of Norfolk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jimmy_Fitch said: Isn't Everton's new stadium practically floating? I'm not saying global warming and flooding isn't real. but I'm sure there will be flood defenses put in place in the next 20-30 years to stop a large area of residential, retail and entertainment from being flooded. If it wasn't for the Thames Barrier so much of London would be under water. I do however think a Wensum Barrier would then have a knock on flooding effect on other areas of Norfolk. Here is the 2050 London map. As far as I'm aware, Norwich and Norfolk Councils do not have a plan for the projected problem. National government will concentrate on London Edited December 18, 2023 by dylanisabaddog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy_Fitch 47 Posted December 18, 2023 Looks like Portman Road is in the same boat (pun intended). If they don't beat us in April, they may never get the chance again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted December 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jimmy_Fitch said: Looks like Portman Road is in the same boat (pun intended). If they don't beat us in April, they may never get the chance again. Oh dear how sad never mind. I suppose they have less to lose than us as they are tenants of Ipswich Council Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Pete 2,353 Posted December 18, 2023 I'm glad someone has raised this. I've been reading The Uninhabitable Earth by David Wallace-Wells. Which draws on a wide range of scientific studies. Basically we're f***ed. The next generation will vilify our generation for our lack of action. And rightly so. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted December 18, 2023 Don't worry as by the time 2050 gets here Delia will have a plan as to what she intends to do about it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigbrenn 88 Posted December 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Oh dear how sad never mind. I suppose they have less to lose than us as they are tenants of Ipswich Council Woo hoo. My flat is safe! (Yes, I live right in the heart of enemy territory) As portaloo road submerges, I can send regular photos as it slowly submerges beneath the crocodile infested Orwell..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted December 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Don't worry as by the time 2050 gets here Delia will have a plan as to what she intends to do about it. Float it on a huge Yorkshire Pudding? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 2,282 Posted December 18, 2023 54 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Here is the 2050 projected Surlingham map. My house was on The Street and probably the lowest. We had 2 people pull out of purchases because of potential flooding before the current owners decided to ignore the warnings. The Internet can be a frightening place if you take everything on face value. The Street, Surlingham is of low risk of flooding even without mitigation according to the EA and even that requires and unprecedented combination of global warming, fluvial and flooding factors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted December 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, BigFish said: The Internet can be a frightening place if you take everything on face value. The Street, Surlingham is of low risk of flooding even without mitigation according to the EA and even that requires and unprecedented combination of global warming, fluvial and flooding factors. That's the 2023 map Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,789 Posted December 18, 2023 If anyone is genuinely interested about flooding , the data , how Flood Re works ( and Parametric insurance) and the differences between EA data and insurers data, ask an insurance specialist . Look at what 1/100 actually means and how the same place can be flooded twice with far higher probability. There is already some misleading stuff on this thread . Best to check out the facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 8,034 Posted December 18, 2023 As long as it doesn't flood the cemetery I shan't be bothered. If I'm viewing at all, I hope it will be from a higher level. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted December 18, 2023 Set up polo team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,765 Posted December 18, 2023 39 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Don't worry as by the time 2050 gets here Delia will have a plan as to what she intends to do about it. We’ll still be deep into the 3 year handover by then 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted December 18, 2023 45 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Don't worry as by the time 2050 gets here Delia will have a plan as to what she intends to do about it. What’s the rush? She’ll only be 109. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 4,272 Posted December 18, 2023 Haven't these reports been saying half of Norfolk will be in the sea in 25 years since about 1945? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serinus canaria 29 Posted December 18, 2023 Hi all. I work in environmental / ocean science and have actually used NCFC as a case study on this very topic. It's not unique to NCFC, there are lots of grounds around the world in the same circumstances, and football clubs are a good example to use because they spent exorbitant sums of money but nothing on mitigating such a huge risk. It's conceivable that it's not on their radar at all, so would be interesting to hear their response. I expect we probably won't see much mitigation response in the UK until the first major flooding event occurs at a high profile ground, but worth noting that this could happen well before 2050 and given how clubs operate financially it will be interesting to see what impact it has with no preparation in place. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, ricardo said: As long as it doesn't flood the cemetery I shan't be bothered. If I'm viewing at all, I hope it will be from a higher level. We'd play the heaven Ipswich If they could only raise a team (apologies to Max Boyce) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 2,282 Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: That's the 2023 map There was a flood risk assessment prior to planning permission being granted on my house. Global warming and rising sea levels don't really change it that much. That is without mitigation as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BigFish said: There was a flood risk assessment prior to planning permission being granted on my house. Global warming and rising sea levels don't really change it that much. That is without mitigation as well. Oh good. Everything will be fine then. No need to worry. For goodness sake read the information available now. If your house was being built now planning would not be granted. I truly hope it ends well for you but I'm afraid I doubt it will. I know the previous owners of the house on the corner of Berlicks Loke (the side nearest The Green). They sold around 18 months ago to people who were told not to buy because of the flood risk. They couldn't believe their luck. Edited December 18, 2023 by dylanisabaddog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites