NFN FC 1,142 Posted December 12, 2023 Who gives a cr@p! He's a binnerĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fen Canary 1,450 Posted December 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Newtopia said: It should be discussed and agreed behind closed doors, once agreed you follow the party line. Ā Not really tricky. Maybe it has been? My argument is against the original poster for accusing the player of homophobia when he has no idea why the plain armband has been chosen. Players should be free to speak up for certain causes if they wish, they shouldnāt be pressured into doing so then abused if they choose not to forĀ whatever reasonĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,332 Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, TheDarkKnight said: If anyone is against social injustices and equality they have a screw loose. Has anyone here weaponised the term "Woke" yet? That's a good way of detecting a-holes from the non a-holes. As far as making the world a better place. Earth would be a better place without human beings. The thing is, they don't ask for equality. Equality is where everyone has a chance of improving themselves, and is a very good thing to encourage. What they demand is equity, which means they should be given privilege or preference over others because they are somehow seen as oppressed.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
If wed kept Howie.. 292 Posted December 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Fen Canary said: I do feel rather dirty for trying to defend one. I must be going soft in my autumn yearsĀ you are allowed to pity them.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,706 Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Fen Canary said: Maybe it has been? My argument is against the original poster for accusing the player of homophobia when he has no idea why the plain armband has been chosen. Players should be free to speak up for certain causes if they wish, they shouldnāt be pressured into doing so then abused if they choose not to forĀ whatever reasonĀ If you wanna hear real homophobia just ask him what his holy book the Quran says about LGBT Issues and ask him what the punishment forĀ homosexual activity is in Muslim countries governed by Sharia law.. Edited December 12, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fen Canary 1,450 Posted December 12, 2023 Just now, cambridgeshire canary said: If you wanna hear real homophobia just ask him what his holy book the Quran says about LGBT Issues and ask him what the punishment forĀ homosexual activity is in Muslim countries governed by Sharia law.. Itās fairly well documented that most Muslim countries arenāt big fans of bum fun so Iām not really sure what point youāre trying to prove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,706 Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Fen Canary said: Itās fairly well documented that most Muslim countries arenāt big fans of bum fun so Iām not really sure what point youāre trying to prove Just curious if he agrees with his religion he claims to follow that the death penalty should be given to those who are LGBT is all. Given we are on about homophobia fair to say that kind of homopohiba is about as extreme as you can get Edited December 12, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nu_matik 184 Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said: The thing is, they don't ask for equality. Equality is where everyone has a chance of improving themselves, and is a very good thing to encourage. What they demand is equity, which means they should be given privilege or preference over others because they are somehow seen as oppressed.Ā Who is "they"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fen Canary 1,450 Posted December 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Just curious if he agrees with his religion he claims to follow that the death penalty should be given to those who are LGBT is all. Given we are on about homophobia fair to say that kind of homopohiba is about as extreme as you can get Heās made no comment on the matter so we donāt know his reasons. I donāt really care what he believes, as long as he doesnāt doesnāt go round abusing the gays he can think what he likesĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fen Canary 1,450 Posted December 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said: Looks like someone bought Jim Davidson's joke book for Christmas. Big Break was fantastic!Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFN FC 1,142 Posted December 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said: It was. Too bad he's a ****. A friend of yours? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mastoola 203 Posted December 12, 2023 On 11/12/2023 at 19:46, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Anti-homophobia is not politics; it's human rights. Same goes for anti-racism campaigns. Ā Im afraid in this modern world that anti homophobia is politics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fen Canary 1,450 Posted December 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, mastoola said: Im afraid in this modern world that anti homophobia is politics The trans debate is an inherently political question though, as the wants of one group directly impacts the needs of another such as in female sport. Therefore wearing an emblem that is linked to one side of that debate can then be portrayed as taking sides or supporting that sides position Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mastoola 203 Posted December 12, 2023 antiĀ homophobia is a bullsthte term. go and look at the laws that are being passed around the worldĀ in russiaĀ in poland the obvious in the islamic worldĀ Ā homophobia is spreading especially in americaĀ Ā Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naturalcynic 817 Posted December 13, 2023 6 hours ago, mastoola said: antiĀ homophobia is a bullsthte term. go and look at the laws that are being passed around the worldĀ in russiaĀ in poland the obvious in the islamic worldĀ Ā homophobia is spreading especially in americaĀ Ā Ā If you remembered the world in the 1960s andĀ 1970s youād know that, comparatively, homophobia is now verging on non-existent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fen Canary 1,450 Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Naturalcynic said: If you remembered the world in the 1960s andĀ 1970s youād know that, comparatively, homophobia is now verging on non-existent. The war was won, which is why groups such as Stonewall started pushing the trans arguments instead in an attempt to keep the donations rolling inĀ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 768 Posted December 13, 2023 On 11/12/2023 at 19:22, Positive_Canary said: Interesting choice of captain when so many others would surely support inclusion in the national sport. TBH I couldnt careless. Rainbow armband or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Drinkell 51 Posted December 13, 2023 And I thought the rainbow armband was introduced so that it didn't clash with any of the kits worn during the season. - a generational thing I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,706 Posted December 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Naturalcynic said: If you remembered the world in the 1960s andĀ 1970s youād know that, comparatively, homophobia is now verging on non-existent. Wonder if these countries have something in common? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 6,001 Posted December 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Naturalcynic said: comparatively, homophobia is now verging on non-existent. Ā 46 minutes ago, Fen Canary said: The war was won Not in the world of professional men's football, where there are still no players who feel able to be out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,587 Posted December 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said: Ā Not in the world of professional men's football, where there are still no players who feel able to be out To be fair, I'd argue that 99% of homosexual footballers don't want to talk about it with the media etc - I would imagine within clubs it's relatively obvious based on relationships outside of football etc and spending time with teammates. I don't like the media's desperation for players to out themselves because we all know the media aren't doing it for the good of that person, but just for a story.Ā Of course you could be right about some but my honest opinion is most just don't want any attention put on it, positive or otherwise. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By Hook or Ian crook 943 Posted December 13, 2023 I donāt really see the big deal with this, surely inclusion means including and accepting people who donāt share the same views are you. Freedom of speech and choice doesnāt just mean freedom and choice on just the things you agree with. No one really knows why heās declined to wear it but itās certainly no reason to be calling him out for his choice. In fact Iād rather someone be honest with their actions like that than hypocritical like Henderson who then went and joined the Saudis. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRock 189 Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Fen Canary said: The war was won, which is why groups such as Stonewall started pushing the trans arguments instead in an attempt to keep the donations rolling inĀ Agreed, after the Equality Act in 2010 and the Marriage Act 2013, justness had been achieved as these were relatively popular views for equal rights all parties, especially for those with protected characteristics. However, the trans debate being spearheaded by groups such as Stonewall is asking for rights for a tiny minority, which directly detriments the rights of all females: Many hold this popular view and are vocal on it, such as JK Rowling and Martina Navratilova, however certain parts of MSM have attempted (and failed) to ostracise and cancel them for their views. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ness Point Runner 21 Posted December 13, 2023 Who would have thought it ? All life here on the Pinkun Forum. Politics, Racism, Religion. The world put to rights. But we have not heard sexism or did I miss it ? But I am a traditionalist. I like to keep the thread around NCFC. How are the girlsĀ teams doing ? Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naturalcynic 817 Posted December 13, 2023 8 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Wonder if these countries have something in common? Ooh, itās on the tip of my tongue. Ā What is the common factor? Ā I just canāt quite remember. Ā Perhaps I should ask someone from āQueers for Palestineā. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nora's Ghost 157 Posted December 13, 2023 A proper bloke then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites