daz 137 Posted December 4, 2023 2nd manager gone today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 922 Posted December 4, 2023 and Sheff Utd likely to give theirs the boot, it doesn't look good for clubs beginning with the letter S. McKenna should be worried........Scum 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 1,102 Posted December 4, 2023 And still our 5hite manager remains in post 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,766 Posted December 4, 2023 A bit surprising as they have a very young team and certainly have no right to the playoffs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 922 Posted December 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, S_81 said: And still our 5hite manager remains in post You really don't like our club, do you ? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,799 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, S_81 said: And still our 5hite manager remains in post How dare we not sack a manager after we have won three in four (Yes he should not be here next season I agree but you get my point) Edited December 4, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 1,102 Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said: How dare we not sack a manager after we have won three in four (Yes he should not be here next season I agree but you get my point) He’s garbage. Proved it end of last season. Proved it much of this season. And will prove it again. But enjoy your three in four - all of which were awful performances and lucky wins. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted December 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, S_81 said: He’s garbage. Proved it end of last season. Proved it much of this season. And will prove it again. But enjoy your three in four - all of which were awful performances and lucky wins. Some dubious results, a bit of luck can change things and can lead to better confidence and belief. Another couple of good results/performances next week then sets us up for the Portaloo show down and then who knows? I'm not banking on it, but if we want something to happen this season, it may as well be with this manager as any. His success at Huddersfield was built hugely on enthusiasm and passion - if he can get the same kind of momentum at Norwich as he had there, it could get very interesting. I'm no great fan of his, but if it's working, it's working - and despite the hiccups, it may just start to be working. The passion on show at Bristol was very clear, so lets give him that chance, eh? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Pete 2,354 Posted December 4, 2023 Two sackings in one day, Lying in the depths of your imagination 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 957 Posted December 5, 2023 30 minutes ago, Pyro Pete said: Two sackings in one day, Lying in the depths of your imagination On the law of averages, or even without it, it must be our turn soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,424 Posted December 5, 2023 If we had lost instead of luckily won those three in four we’d be one point outside the bottom three. Damning. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bali Canary 12 Posted December 5, 2023 5 hours ago, S_81 said: And still our 5hite manager remains in post Be careful what you wish for. We could have gone for Rooney! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted December 5, 2023 7 hours ago, lake district canary said: Some dubious results, a bit of luck can change things and can lead to better confidence and belief. Another couple of good results/performances next week then sets us up for the Portaloo show down and then who knows? I'm not banking on it, but if we want something to happen this season, it may as well be with this manager as any. His success at Huddersfield was built hugely on enthusiasm and passion - if he can get the same kind of momentum at Norwich as he had there, it could get very interesting. I'm no great fan of his, but if it's working, it's working - and despite the hiccups, it may just start to be working. The passion on show at Bristol was very clear, so lets give him that chance, eh? It’s not working. As soon as we play anyone decent we will lose. Nothing has changed we’ve just played three crap sides. It’s a bit like under Smith when were picking up results whilst playing crap and everyone could see it wasn’t sustainable. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daz 137 Posted December 5, 2023 10 hours ago, S_81 said: And still our 5hite manager remains in post I know such a shame 😡... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,013 Posted December 5, 2023 The point here is though any potential candidates Knapper's had pencilled in may now get snaffled up. Sometimes it's better to wait, sometimes not, but if you do have a specific target in mind then it's highly likely someone else will too. Cooper can't be far off at Forest, that will cause some very interesting ripples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 7,377 Posted December 5, 2023 9 hours ago, Pyro Pete said: Two sackings in one day, Lying in the depths of your imagination It could be a Crowded House in the job centre, that's for sure. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,766 Posted December 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Duncan Edwards said: If we had lost instead of luckily won those three in four we’d be one point outside the bottom three. Damning. If we'd have lost every game we played this season we'd be bottom on 0 points. F*cking Wagner. And Delia 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton canary 164 Posted December 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Bali Canary said: Be careful what you wish for. We could have gone for Rooney! Don't think Knapper is that stupid! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,174 Posted December 5, 2023 11 hours ago, hogesar said: A bit surprising as they have a very young team and certainly have no right to the playoffs. seems a bit out the blue , Maybe a fall out ? over Jan spending ? or something seems a bit harsh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,745 Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Jim Smith said: It’s not working. As soon as we play anyone decent we will lose. Nothing has changed we’ve just played three crap sides. It’s a bit like under Smith when were picking up results whilst playing crap and everyone could see it wasn’t sustainable. So can I clarify Jim: 1. Do you think that Webber assembled a squad that should be pushing for promotion rather than being mid table? 2. Which currently available manager do you think would help us attain said promotion? For my part, I am not a big fan of Wagner as a manager, but I don't think that rushing to a quick sacking is necessarily the best solution - it is more likely to lead to a rushed appointment and the lack of a pre-season makes it harder for a new manager to implement his playing style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 2,283 Posted December 5, 2023 11 hours ago, S_81 said: He’s garbage. Proved it end of last season. Proved it much of this season. And will prove it again. But enjoy your three in four - all of which were awful performances and lucky wins. You must have been gutted we won Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 573 Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) I genuinely think this talk of changing the head coach is so short sighted. Knapper will need a plan, a strategy, set some realistic timescales, and recruit people to make us genuinely better. Until he is ready and is clear on that plan and strategy we are much better sticking with Wagner than chasing a quick fix. Currently Wagner is not going to get us promoted and also looks like avoiding relegation. On top of that he clearly fostering a positive culture, he is good with the media / fans and until the injury to Sargent seemed to have assembled a real sense of belief, and a decent run of results. Edited December 5, 2023 by Newtopia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,766 Posted December 5, 2023 37 minutes ago, norfolkngood said: seems a bit out the blue , Maybe a fall out ? over Jan spending ? or something seems a bit harsh They're on a bad run, and I think they originally wanted a younger, "progressive" manager (what that actually means, I have no idea). But like I say they're a really young side so you've got to expect some inconsistency in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 794 Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, hogesar said: If we'd have lost every game we played this season we'd be bottom on 0 points. F*cking Wagner. And Delia What about Winnie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Badger said: So can I clarify Jim: 1. Do you think that Webber assembled a squad that should be pushing for promotion rather than being mid table? 2. Which currently available manager do you think would help us attain said promotion? For my part, I am not a big fan of Wagner as a manager, but I don't think that rushing to a quick sacking is necessarily the best solution - it is more likely to lead to a rushed appointment and the lack of a pre-season makes it harder for a new manager to implement his playing style. 1. I think there is enough in the squad that it should be top 6, even with the injuries we have had. There are deficiencies in the squad but some of the selections and tactics have made it (and certain players) look worse than they are. 2. I have no idea if it’s realistic but I would have tried to get Potter. If he ends up at one of our divisional rivals that will be irritating. I would hope also that Knapper might know of some young, highly rated coaches that we might be able to approach. I like Wagner as a bloke and who can’t help but feel pleased for him when we pull a result out of the bag like Sunday but his way of playing is so dependent on having all of the right personnel fit (and even then I’m not sure it now wouldn’t be exposed by the better sides) that it’s not going to work. The main problem, as ever, is in the midfield and that appears to be his blind spot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,745 Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Jim Smith said: 1. I think there is enough in the squad that it should be top 6, even with the injuries we have had. There are deficiencies in the squad but some of the selections and tactics have made it (and certain players) look worse than they are. 2. I have no idea if it’s realistic but I would have tried to get Potter. If he ends up at one of our divisional rivals that will be irritating. I would hope also that Knapper might know of some young, highly rated coaches that we might be able to approach. I like Wagner as a bloke and who can’t help but feel pleased for him when we pull a result out of the bag like Sunday but his way of playing is so dependent on having all of the right personnel fit (and even then I’m not sure it now wouldn’t be exposed by the better sides) that it’s not going to work. The main problem, as ever, is in the midfield and that appears to be his blind spot. I don't disagree with much of this. There is a current of opinion which says that we have poor players, but generally, when fit, which I disagree with. (It always strikes me as strange when some on here say that all our players are useless and that we should sack the manager - if the players are as bad as they suggest, he is pulling a blinder to keep us midtable!) Like you, I think that our squad is top end championship with out the outstanding players that a couple of the relegation clubs have. A play off place would be par for the course as far as I'm concerned. I also like Wagner as a person but feel that we keep on giving away the same type of goal - repeatedly. Every time is can be described as an individual error but it makes me think that perhaps the strategy is too demanding on some of them, precisely because it cannot accommodate error in the press - which makes the midfield look invisible (although my suspicion is that it is an error elsewhere that has sold them down the river). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,423 Posted December 5, 2023 16 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said: How dare we not sack a manager after we have won three in four He should have been sacked well before the last 4 fixtures. And none them were good performances. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 800 Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) Of all managers sacked Mowbray would be one I could actually get behind. Plays good football, brings on young players and has excellent knowledge of the championship. I dunno but if we are to be destined a mid table championship team we could do a lot worse. Edited December 5, 2023 by Ulfotto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,799 Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said: He should have been sacked well before the last 4 fixtures. And none them were good performances. Wagner should have been sacked after the Plymouth loss but I've just accepted he will be here until the end of the season regardless of if we manage to get a good run going or lose every single one of our remianing games. Well, maybe if we lose 6-0 to the binners he might get sacked but I just can't see it happening given all that was said at the AGM Edited December 5, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 1,102 Posted December 5, 2023 18 hours ago, lake district canary said: Some dubious results, a bit of luck can change things and can lead to better confidence and belief. Another couple of good results/performances next week then sets us up for the Portaloo show down and then who knows? I'm not banking on it, but if we want something to happen this season, it may as well be with this manager as any. His success at Huddersfield was built hugely on enthusiasm and passion - if he can get the same kind of momentum at Norwich as he had there, it could get very interesting. I'm no great fan of his, but if it's working, it's working - and despite the hiccups, it may just start to be working. The passion on show at Bristol was very clear, so lets give him that chance, eh? Sorry, but utter delusion. A prime example of the kind of happy clapping that is holding us back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites