why change a winning team?

[Baldyboy 1]

why did the clown go 4-5-1 when we needed to win every game? that shows his total lack of ambition and if the directors think thats the way ahead with him in charge then god help us next season! this season has been one complete disaster after another from getting crap players in, spineless performers, the ashton fiasco, the embarassing away performances, the ineptitude of the whole management team, the spinelessness of the board, buying earnie to keep the bench warm, the lack of faith shown in youth and god knows what else in the next few weeks will happen. i for one cant wait for this season to end and hopefully we can start afresh with a new management team in place next year. however i somehow think worthless will still be here and we will be subjected to more crap next year.

 

ps if there are any other disasters ive missed please let me know, i got fed up trying to think of them!

[Alex Harvey-Jones 0]

I was thinking that. We carved out a god result against Sheff Utd so why change the team?? He hasn''t a clue!!

[Syteanric 1]

that for me hits the nail firmly on the head that Nigel Worthington isnt a football manager.. he DOESNT know what he''s doing.. and HAS got lucky...

 I feel he is a fool in a mans game.. he wants to be a success but deep down knows he cant cut the mustard but wants to prove everyone, including himself, wrong.. walk away Nigel.. take a coaching job somewhere... maybe even here.. but dont be a manager... Ur not cut out for it.. have no tactical nous, no people skills and cant get the best out of good players... or make poor players into good ones with a bit of belief...

 Your struggling for idears, u sit in the dugout and hope it will all come together, u cant plan ahead.. Worthy is a nice guy with a good playing experiance and i feel a role as coach somewhere is more his cup of tea.. Leave the managing side to the people who can do it.

and dont anyone say "but he has a Fifa coaching badge etc.." does having GCSE''s make u intelligent??? not necessarily.. same as having a badge to sew on ur lapel doesnt make u a football manager....

jas :)

[essexcanary 0]

I see where your comin from, we DID need to win every game and worthy didnt start earnie.

however, the team that played sfeff united, was pretty much present for good hour of game and no threat was created what so ever

[Fat Barman 0]

I''m a bit confused by people knocking the starting formation. The 4-5-1 showed its attacking capabilities in the first 15 minutes (hardly Worthy''s fault that Hucks & MacKenzie fired blanks!). After Drury went off on the half-hour mark, we switched to 4-4-2 for the last hour and looked more toothless than we had before.I''m not defending the display, just confused why the 4-5-1 has been slated, when it seemed the most effective at the start of the game?

[Huddy 0]

Nigel Worthington - A man of many mysteries.

[Alex Harvey-Jones 0]

[quote user="Fat Barman"]I''m a bit confused by people knocking the starting formation. The 4-5-1 showed its attacking capabilities in the first 15 minutes (hardly Worthy''s fault that Hucks & MacKenzie fired blanks!). After Drury went off on the half-hour mark, we switched to 4-4-2 for the last hour and looked more toothless than we had before.

I''m not defending the display, just confused why the 4-5-1 has been slated, when it seemed the most effective at the start of the game?
[/quote] I''m not saying the 4-5-1 shouldn''t be used but I was surprised that we changed the formation when we had played well and carved out a good result the previous weekend against Sheff Utd!! I was also surprised we dropped Earnie when he had scored!

[Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0]

[quote user="Fat Barman"]I''m a bit confused by people knocking the starting formation. The 4-5-1 showed its attacking capabilities in the first 15 minutes (hardly Worthy''s fault that Hucks & MacKenzie fired blanks!). After Drury went off on the half-hour mark, we switched to 4-4-2 for the last hour and looked more toothless than we had before.

I''m not defending the display, just confused why the 4-5-1 has been slated, when it seemed the most effective at the start of the game?
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OK FB, as 4-5-1 was working well, why did worthy replace Drury with Erny and go 4-4-2??  When he could have brought Safri on and stayed with the 4-5-1 which had been working well for the first 15-20 minutes?? Either way these seem like poor decisions.  He went 4-4-2 relying on Hughes and Robinson to setup play.  But the way we play it works more like a 4-2-4 not a 4-4-2.

[Fat Barman 0]

Why so confrontational, Paul? The original post on this thread asked why Worthy switched to a 4-5-1 formation after beating Sheff. Utd. I replied that I felt it had been vindicated by the good start we made. To answer your question, I suppose the next 20 minutes after Burnley scored influenced the decision to switch to 4-4-2 (seeing as a substitution had to be made at that time). It''s called flexibility, a trait you like to infer Worthy doesn''t possess.Worthy also seems unconvinced that Safri can play 60 minutes at present - yet values the qualities he can bring as a sub later in a game. With the benefit of hindsight, Paul, can you enlighten me as to which formation you would have started with and why it would have proved more successful?I, along with the others in the pub, were happy with the way we cut through Burnley at the start of the match. There was a collective disappointment with the performance which came after we went behind. We all felt that to switch to 4-4-2 when we did was a positive move, only to see the players apparently unable to respond to the challenge. Which, of the available players would you have preferred to the ones chosen by Worthy? Etuhu?I''m all for constructive debate, but I fail to see the reasons for criticising the tactics last Friday - unless it''s just another pop for the sake of it.

[Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0]

[quote user="Fat Barman"]Why so confrontational, Paul? The original post on this thread asked why Worthy switched to a 4-5-1 formation after beating Sheff. Utd. I replied that I felt it had been vindicated by the good start we made. To answer your question, I suppose the next 20 minutes after Burnley scored influenced the decision to switch to 4-4-2 (seeing as a substitution had to be made at that time). It''s called flexibility, a trait you like to infer Worthy doesn''t possess.

Worthy also seems unconvinced that Safri can play 60 minutes at present - yet values the qualities he can bring as a sub later in a game. With the benefit of hindsight, Paul, can you enlighten me as to which formation you would have started with and why it would have proved more successful?

I, along with the others in the pub, were happy with the way we cut through Burnley at the start of the match. There was a collective disappointment with the performance which came after we went behind. We all felt that to switch to 4-4-2 when we did was a positive move, only to see the players apparently unable to respond to the challenge. Which, of the available players would you have preferred to the ones chosen by Worthy? Etuhu?

I''m all for constructive debate, but I fail to see the reasons for criticising the tactics last Friday - unless it''s just another pop for the sake of it.
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I didnt mean to be so confrontational FB, and I apologise for it.[:(].

In the end it was a little surprising to see Erny left out (he did cost us 3 million pounds, an unheard of amount for ours size of club in the championship). I cannot understand this Sarfri being left out as he declared himself fully fitr in the paper in the week.  His replacements Hughes whom had yet another total shocker and robinson whom seems tidy but quiet seem unable to pass the ball.  I am not even goibng to mention teh left back in midfield striker on the right wing and centre half at right back - and we have a near fully fit squad....

My personal real problem comes from teh fact we didnt even try and pass it after 30 minuites.  It was Hoofball all the way...

As for the formations, well whatever we think we as armchair managers we arent paid to get it right - and worthy got it wrong yet again.....  what more need I say??  Considering how poor we have been this season, even if we had had one or 2 Good performances this squad of players would be in the play-offs.  Unfortunatly Worthy seems unable to get a good performance out of this team...

[Rossi 0]

No matter how much i disagreed with the formation (4-5-1) our best moments int he game game when we played this formation.

Putting Earnie on was a big puzzle. Why pick the formation, leave out earnie, and then change everything on the basis of an injury to drury.

For me Nigel was admitting that earny is not the player we should have bought and Worthington doesnt know how to use him. As he knew he was probably going to get questions asked as to why a £3m striker was on the bench, he changed everything. Should have put Charlton back and Safri in the midfield. To put Earny on to score a goal when we were behind in the 2nd half fine, but why change a whole formation 20 odd minutes into the game when it was working ok and you didnt need to?