Norwich managers by win %

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

After last nights game David Wagner has been in charge of Norwich for 37 games with a total of 14 wins 7 draws and 16 losses giving a total win % of 37.8%. I feel this is a large enough sample size to compare his performance compared to previous managers.

Of the previous recent managers he has a better win % than Smith which was 28% although half of those games were at a higher level. Gunny is also at 28%. Hughton who was at a win rate of 29% but entirely at Prem level. Glenn Roeder was at 30%. Neil Adams at 34%. However he is behind Alex Neil at 41%. Daniel Farke at 43% and Paul Lambert at 49.3% being comfortably the best of the recent era. Those 3 are also weighted by having seasons of games in Prem level. Their championship win % is significantly higher. 
 

It seems for a manager to be successful in automatic promotion they are going to require a win rate at championship level of around 55-60%. Or for the play offs between 45-50%. 
 

Wagner is currently sitting as slightly better than Neil Adams and slightly worse than Alex Neil.
 

 

[Duncan Edwards 2,424]

And Neil Adams gave us “our Norwich back…” 

[cambridgeshire canary 7,778]

And Smith was sacked when we were 5th.. 5th!

[Top corner 260]

I'm really surprised that Wagner hasn't been sacked today, I thought after our disastrous run, which started last season, he iwould be gone. It can only be after another expected poor performance on Saturday before he is sacked. 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,580]

Like you say, it's tough to compare because of the division and expectations at the time.

Wagner's win percentage doesn't appear to be that bad on the surface, but considering the objective has been a promotion push during his tenure, he has certainly underperformed.

[A Load of Squit 6,260]

Bring back John Faulkner.

[S_81 1,088]

57 minutes ago, By Hook or Ian crook said:

After last nights game David Wagner has been in charge of Norwich for 37 games with a total of 14 wins 7 draws and 16 losses giving a total win % of 37.8%. I feel this is a large enough sample size to compare his performance compared to previous managers.

Of the previous recent managers he has a better win % than Smith which was 28% although half of those games were at a higher level. Gunny is also at 28%. Hughton who was at a win rate of 29% but entirely at Prem level. Glenn Roeder was at 30%. Neil Adams at 34%. However he is behind Alex Neil at 41%. Daniel Farke at 43% and Paul Lambert at 49.3% being comfortably the best of the recent era. Those 3 are also weighted by having seasons of games in Prem level. Their championship win % is significantly higher. 
 

It seems for a manager to be successful in automatic promotion they are going to require a win rate at championship level of around 55-60%. Or for the play offs between 45-50%. 
 

Wagner is currently sitting as slightly better than Neil Adams and slightly worse than Alex Neil.
 

 

Win rate is one thing but he hardly draws games. His league loss rate is in the 47-48% region. One in two. Dreadful 

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Alan Irvine wins at 50%.

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

3 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

Like you say, it's tough to compare because of the division and expectations at the time.

Wagner's win percentage doesn't appear to be that bad on the surface, but considering the objective has been a promotion push during his tenure, he has certainly underperformed.

Weirdly almost all the ones below him suffered a relegation and all the ones above him featured promotions. It seems we will be bucking the trend is he departs having never gone either up or down with us. Only Adams departed without one or the other having left fairly soon into the season. 

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

3 hours ago, S_81 said:

Win rate is one thing but he hardly draws games. His league loss rate is in the 47-48% region. One in two. Dreadful 

It’s certainly not great on paper is it. 

[Top corner 260]

Walking away from the game last night I heard a gentleman say, that Farke was hung out to dry by Webber after both of our promotions, especially the second promotion. Webber saying that he had given Farke guns with ammunition (or whatever Webbers words were) I can't disagree with the gentleman. 

[The Bunny 326]

You need to break this into win % per league for this to be in any way meaningful. 

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

9 minutes ago, The Bunny said:

You need to break this into win % per league for this to be in any way meaningful. 

I would do but I don’t have the time right now. 

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1 hour ago, Top corner said:

Walking away from the game last night I heard a gentleman say, that Farke was hung out to dry by Webber after both of our promotions, especially the second promotion. Webber saying that he had given Farke guns with ammunition (or whatever Webbers words were) I can't disagree with the gentleman. 

I sort of agree but at the same time by sacking Farke when he did he sort of made Farke into some sort of Martyr and trashed his legacy instead. He could keep faith with Farke pretty sure we would have still been relegated probably in worse circumstances than we were anyway. Then what?

[Ward 3 476]

4 hours ago, essex canary said:

Alan Irvine wins at 50%.

Wasn't he gaffer for like 4 games lol

[raunds canary 238]

What was Allan Russell's?

[essex canary 610]

2 hours ago, Ward 3 said:

Wasn't he gaffer for like 4 games lol

10 including a 7-1 win.

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9 hours ago, A Load of Squit said:

Bring back John Faulkner.

I'm sure your post is light hearted in nature, but it's a little unfortunate.............

https://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwich-city/20815858.former-norwich-city-assistant-manager-john-faulkner-dies-aged-69/

[The Raptor 1,565]

Not sure I knew that. RIP John