Norwich v Leeds 21st October

[yellow 63 25]

Looking ahead i know but nailed on Sky will move this to the Friday night with a 8pm kick off, can't be pushed forward as we have Middlesbrough on the Tuesday.

[Capt. Pants 5,008]

Certainly the game of that weekend you would have thought. It will be either Friday 8pm or Sunday 12 noon as the Sky Premier League slots have already been announced either side.

Don't rule out Sky shafting us though and going for Sunday.

[essex canary 622]

Perhaps the Tuesday night game is also subject to change?

[Spillay 194]

3 minutes ago, essex canary said:

Perhaps the Tuesday night game is also subject to change?

A midweek game being moved to... ?

[yellow 63 25]

8 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Certainly the game of that weekend you would have thought. It will be either Friday 8pm or Sunday 12 noon as the Sky Premier League slots have already been announced either side.

Don't rule out Sky shafting us though and going for Sunday.

Yep that will be the day.

[BigFish 2,282]

4 minutes ago, Spillay said:

A midweek game being moved to... ?

Wednesday

[CaptCanary 72]

Sky have chosen Rotherham Vs Ipswich for the Friday game instead, and Preston Vs Millwall for Saturday lunchtime, so remains a 3pm Saturday game. Bit surprising really.

[Canary73 327]

The Leeds game is the only one before Christmas that is not affected by engineering works. Apart from the Hull game, I'll be putting in for buy back every home game. I suspect this is the last season I'll bother with a season ticket with every weekend being shut for line works.

[king canary 8,755]

23 minutes ago, Canary73 said:

The Leeds game is the only one before Christmas that is not affected by engineering works. Apart from the Hull game, I'll be putting in for buy back every home game. I suspect this is the last season I'll bother with a season ticket with every weekend being shut for line works.

Nightmare- where abouts do you live?

[Canary73 327]

I live in Chelmsford. As I work in the rail industry I know how the works are planned well in advance but when you look long term there are closures every week due to track renewals or in connection with the new station at Beaulieu Park (between Chelmsford & Hatfield Peveral). As the line used by freight it is subject to regular maintenance but those who use the line know this has been going on for decades and it has got to the point now that having a season ticket and travelling longer distances is pretty pointless unless you are prepared to gift the club the cost of the ticket and just not go. In some cases it means spending around 3 hours in each direction to get to a game and that's no longer tenable.

The new station doesn't get completed until December 2025 so next season looks a write off to. I've emailed the club to ask what consultation they've had with Network Rail and Greater Anglia (the latter doesn't really have grounds to object as they get compensated for the disruption and will claim the works benefit passengers and freight customers in the long run). This is before Sky get involved and change the fixture schedule.

The Leeds game is the only one in the calendar before January (the operators and Network Rail are required to publish the timetable 12 weeks before it comes in to operation so passengers can plan their journeys) but you can back on there being more weekend cancellations alongside other holiday periods.

For those that travel in from other areas - e.g. Cambridge, Ely, Peterborough - worth checking too as there are line works in these areas.

Covid has changed working patterns meaning passenger volumes ergo revenue at weekends is higher than during the week. Industrial action by the unions has seized on this so this is another factor in addition to the line closures.

There are many NCFC fans still on the train before/ beyond Chelmsford. Good luck to them if they are stoically putting up with it but I've lost the patience to do so. I've put in for a refund on my ST.

 

 

Edited September 16, 2023 by Canary73

[essex canary 622]

6 minutes ago, Canary73 said:

I live in Chelmsford. As I work in the rail industry I know how the works are planned well in advance but when you look long term there are closures every week due to track renewals or in connection with the new station at Beaulieu Park (between Chelmsford & Hatfield Peveral). As the line used by freight it is subject to regular maintenance but those who use the line know this has been going on for decades and it has got to the point now that having a season ticket and travelling longer distances is pretty pointless unless you are prepared to gift the club the cost of the ticket and just not go. In some cases it means spending around 3 hours in each direction to get to a game and that's no longer tenable.

The new station doesn't get completed until December 2025 so next season looks a write off to. I've emailed the club to ask what consultation they've had with Network Rail and Greater Anglia (the latter doesn't really have grounds to object as they get compensated for the disruption and will claim the works benefit passengers and freight customers in the long run). This is before Sky get involved and change the fixture schedule.

The Leeds game is the only one in the calendar before January (the operators and Network Rail are required to publish the timetable 12 weeks before it comes in to operation so passengers can plan their journeys) but you can back on there being more weekend cancellations alongside other holiday periods.

For those that travel in from other areas - e.g. Cambridge, Ely, Peterborough - worth checking too as there are line works in these areas.

Covid has changed working patterns meaning passenger volumes ergo revenue at weekends is higher than during the week. Industrial action by the unions has seized on this so this is another factor in addition to the line closures.

There are many NCFC fans still on the train before/ beyond Chelmsford. Good luck to them if they are stoically putting up with it but I've lost the patience to do so. I've put in for a refund on my ST.

 

 

Every sympathy with you as a friend of mine with 4 lounge tickets is in the same position.

Whilst it isn't the Club's fault as such it is still reasonable up to a point to expect them to offer constructive solutions. Doubtless though that their money first approach discourages them from doing it. In that sense why not vote with your feet.

[Canary73 327]

2 minutes ago, essex canary said:

Every sympathy with you as a friend of mine with 4 lounge tickets is in the same position.

Whilst it isn't the Club's fault as such it is still reasonable up to a point to expect them to offer constructive solutions. Doubtless though that their money first approach discourages them from doing it. In that sense why not vote with your feet.

Agreed. I've had the ticket for a long time and short of upping sticks to Norwich there isn't much that is going to change. 

[Commonsense 802]

11 hours ago, essex canary said:

Every sympathy with you as a friend of mine with 4 lounge tickets is in the same position.

Whilst it isn't the Club's fault as such it is still reasonable up to a point to expect them to offer constructive solutions. Doubtless though that their money first approach discourages them from doing it. In that sense why not vote with your feet.

Another ludicrous suggestion. It isn’t the club’s fault at all. Do you expect them to look at the travel arrangements of every fan, and what do you expect them to do? 
it seems to me that Greater Angola’s approach needs to be looked at by the regulatory bodies, as I cannot see why constant disruption on this scale is allowed. 
However, your suggestion that the club can resolve the situation is very wide of the mark. No doubt you expect Zoe to call round and offer a lift to every fan affected .

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

We had a bit of a longer journey today by ‘train’ from Surrey - with a coach to/from Ipswich which added an hour each way (we got in at 10).  It is what it is, weekends have always been prone to engineering work, but it’s a shame that using the railways is made so hard at times as it isn’t cheap (especially as we can’t use a family railcard any more). I suppose we’ll just come by car more often.

Seems there’s a strike on the 30th, but the only trains showing were via Cambridge anyway (and at quite high prices) so I’d already decided to drive.  

 

 

[essex canary 622]

7 hours ago, Commonsense said:

Another ludicrous suggestion. It isn’t the club’s fault at all. Do you expect them to look at the travel arrangements of every fan, and what do you expect them to do? 
it seems to me that Greater Angola’s approach needs to be looked at by the regulatory bodies, as I cannot see why constant disruption on this scale is allowed. 
However, your suggestion that the club can resolve the situation is very wide of the mark. No doubt you expect Zoe to call round and offer a lift to every fan affected .

In the good old days when fans paid on the day I suspect the Club would have close liaison with the Railways. The 1970's Wembley trips being obvious examples.

Whether such intervention is possible now is a moot point. Nonetheless other possible actions might include:

1. Holding proactive discussions with Capital Canaries to see whether fans can be assisted in a wider sense.

2. Peering up affected individuals with waiting list people seeking similar requirements to enable them to negotiate their own swaps.

3. Allowing affected individuals to take a season ticket holiday.

 

[......and Smith must score. 1,596]

20 hours ago, Canary73 said:

Agreed. I've had the ticket for a long time and short of upping sticks to Norwich there isn't much that is going to change. 

I appreciate that working in the rail industry you must get free travel but wouldn’t driving while this is going on solve the problem?

I don’t like doing it but I’ve little choice living in Cambridgeshire.

[Canary73 327]

2 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said:

I appreciate that working in the rail industry you must get free travel but wouldn’t driving while this is going on solve the problem?

I don’t like doing it but I’ve little choice living in Cambridgeshire.

I neither drive nor get free travel. I do book in advance if I know the fixture is unlikely to change but with months of it in a row it just means each fixture is a write off unless you go up on the Friday, stay over and come back on a Monday which is unworkable for each home fixture. Its actually made midweek fixtures easier to do except there is the scramble for the last train at 2200

[Bert 236]

21 hours ago, Canary73 said:

The Leeds game is the only one before Christmas that is not affected by engineering works. Apart from the Hull game, I'll be putting in for buy back every home game. I suspect this is the last season I'll bother with a season ticket with every weekend being shut for line works.

That’s the spirit 💪💪💪 thank God you weren’t at Dunkirk 

[Canary73 327]

Idiot

[Canary73 327]

3 minutes ago, Bert said:

That’s the spirit 💪💪💪 thank God you weren’t at Dunkirk 

Idiot

[essex canary 622]

38 minutes ago, Canary73 said:

I neither drive nor get free travel. I do book in advance if I know the fixture is unlikely to change but with months of it in a row it just means each fixture is a write off unless you go up on the Friday, stay over and come back on a Monday which is unworkable for each home fixture. Its actually made midweek fixtures easier to do except there is the scramble for the last train at 2200

The last issue is bound to be a problem this Wednesday with an 8PM kickoff. 

As a matter of interest, what has been your buyback success rate in the Championship?

[Canary73 327]

28 minutes ago, essex canary said:

The last issue is bound to be a problem this Wednesday with an 8PM kickoff. 

As a matter of interest, what has been your buyback success rate in the Championship?

Zilch so far.  Noticed a few empty seats yesterday and wondering with those in the same position stayed away

[TIL 1010 5,246]

Mick Lynch is the problem.

[Naturalcynic 817]

33 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

Mick Lynch is the problem.

Can’t disagree with that.  Politically-motivated, UK-hating, far-left extremist.

[Naturalcynic 817]

On 16/09/2023 at 12:47, Canary73 said:

I live in Chelmsford. As I work in the rail industry I know how the works are planned well in advance but when you look long term there are closures every week due to track renewals or in connection with the new station at Beaulieu Park (between Chelmsford & Hatfield Peveral). As the line used by freight it is subject to regular maintenance but those who use the line know this has been going on for decades and it has got to the point now that having a season ticket and travelling longer distances is pretty pointless unless you are prepared to gift the club the cost of the ticket and just not go. In some cases it means spending around 3 hours in each direction to get to a game and that's no longer tenable.

The new station doesn't get completed until December 2025 so next season looks a write off to. I've emailed the club to ask what consultation they've had with Network Rail and Greater Anglia (the latter doesn't really have grounds to object as they get compensated for the disruption and will claim the works benefit passengers and freight customers in the long run). This is before Sky get involved and change the fixture schedule.

The Leeds game is the only one in the calendar before January (the operators and Network Rail are required to publish the timetable 12 weeks before it comes in to operation so passengers can plan their journeys) but you can back on there being more weekend cancellations alongside other holiday periods.

For those that travel in from other areas - e.g. Cambridge, Ely, Peterborough - worth checking too as there are line works in these areas.

Covid has changed working patterns meaning passenger volumes ergo revenue at weekends is higher than during the week. Industrial action by the unions has seized on this so this is another factor in addition to the line closures.

There are many NCFC fans still on the train before/ beyond Chelmsford. Good luck to them if they are stoically putting up with it but I've lost the patience to do so. I've put in for a refund on my ST.

 

 

When there aren’t engineering works there are strikes so, like many, I’ve given up on the trains.  Thanks to Mick Lynch et al, there’ll be no rail industry left by the time they stop their politically-motivated strike action.

[Commonsense 802]

57 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

Mick Lynch is the problem.

I wasn’t aware that he was involved in planning the engineering works which are the main cause of the constant disruption on this line.

[PurpleCanary 6,385]

5 hours ago, Bert said:

That’s the spirit 💪💪💪 thank God you weren’t at Dunkirk 

You do know Dunkirk was a defeat? As Churchill put it "A colossal military disaster."

[shefcanary 2,955]

I join this thread in peace, but you train people in Essex; any chance you can use this message board to get together and organise an alternative travel option? Perhaps a minibus or even a coach if there are the numbers?

All this Millennium-like giving up at the first sign of strife is a bit, well, wimpish. If our team (who supporting should be the priority here) gave up at the first sign of difficulty you'd all pile in, so allow me to do the same here.

Us Northern exiles are not adverse to a few rail problems, we just arrange alternative travel to get to games.

Just posing a potential solution.

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

1 hour ago, Commonsense said:

I wasn’t aware that he was involved in planning the engineering works which are the main cause of the constant disruption on this line.

Keep up - anyone anti-this awful govt is anti-Uk and to blame for absolutely anything and everything.

It is is the chronic under-funding of the railways over decades (particularly the 80s and 90s) that’s to blame for the state of things, but the current engineering work is of course entirely separate to strike action

[pete 371]

Don't get taken by the rubbish put out by the Gov't.  They need or rather want to save money by the railway operating companies and do this by closing ticket offices.  The myth is that the ticket office operatives will be given roles on station platforms assisting the public, they won't and eventually be made redundant.  These strikes affect me and means I miss matches most irksome if already bought tickets e.g Birmingham on 30//9.  But if missing some matches is the vprice paid for saving jobs I can stomach the inconvenience.