So according to Zoe we will make an appointment imminently

[Jim Smith 2,580]

…… not of a new sporting director but of a recruitment agent to try and find a new sporting director. Despite the fact Webber told us he was leaving several months ago.

Couldn’t make this stuff up. 
 

Great to hear also that the owners will continue to “not take any risks, in terms of investment.” How thoughtful of them. 

Edited June 27, 2023 by Jim Smith

[yellow_belly 227]

I thought the same. They should have done this immediately, as any decent business (big or small) would.

Tinpot

[RobJames 922]

1 minute ago, Jim Smith said:

Great to hear also that the owners will continue to “not take any risks, in terms of investment.” How thoughtful of them. 

Yes. Why can't we be more like Derby, Hull, Cardiff, WBA, Swansea, Huddersfield, Blackpool, Wigan, Stoke etc. This 'living within our means' has cost us, whereas those clubs have been a roaring success.

[Google Bot 3,922]

I had to rewind when I heard that as I first thought she meant a new SD would be this week, then realised it was appointing someone to help source the new SD.

Seems there's a lot of stalling and waiting going on, can only presume the Attanasio's are a factor in all this and want to get fingers in the pie at this crucial fork in the road.

[C.I.D 357]

4 minutes ago, Google Bot said:

I had to rewind when I heard that as I first thought she meant a new SD would be this week, then realised it was appointing someone to help source the new SD.

Seems there's a lot of stalling and waiting going on, can only presume the Attanasio's are a factor in all this and want to get fingers in the pie at this crucial fork in the road.

I always favour a fork in the pie rather than fingers .........crucial and so much less messy 😊

[Branston Pickle 4,140]

A little surprising but not that big a biggie If someone (ie SW) is working their notice period and it’s a long one.  The key time was/is always going to be the summer window and it was surely too late for anyone new to come in in a meaningful way. 

[keelansgrandad 6,680]

A bit confusing. Are they saying they don't have enough contacts within the game to put it about that they are after someone to replace Webber? A man who has told the footballing world he is leaving.

Has nobody phoned up to say, I'm interested or What are you looking for in the job.

Considering so much other business in football is done in Motorway Services or Hotel Bars, it does seem a bit weird to appoint someone to do it.

[Don J Demorr 167]

39 minutes ago, Google Bot said:

Seems there's a lot of stalling and waiting going on, can only presume the Attanasio's are a factor in all this and want to get fingers in the pie at this crucial fork in the road.

A stunningly brilliant mixed metaphor! Sheer joy - I just have to steal it - after I've stopped laughing.Many many thanks.

Don

[Soldier on 289]

16 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

A bit confusing. Are they saying they don't have enough contacts within the game to put it about that they are after someone to replace Webber? A man who has told the footballing world he is leaving.

Has nobody phoned up to say, I'm interested or What are you looking for in the job.

Considering so much other business in football is done in Motorway Services or Hotel Bars, it does seem a bit weird to appoint someone to do it.

Don’t think it’s uncommon to use recruitment agents. ZW said they’d populated their own list and recruitment consultant may add to it with names not previously considered. Given the time taken in planning for transfer windows and the one year rolling contract was always going to be Webber leading this summer. Jim being negative for the sake of it on this occasion perhaps ??

[Mason 47 1,910]

Am I the only one that heard what she said as 'we've been looking but haven't had much success, so we're appointing an external agent with better knowledge of the wider industry to help out'?

I also think the further the next guy can appear to not be 'a Webber signing', the better in terms of getting the fans onside. 

Doesn't seem anything untoward to me at all but y'know, club-beating sticks come in all shapes and sizes.

[glory.win or die. 273]

Did we hire recruitment experts to advise us on the best recruitment experts to hire

[Mark .Y. 373]

Am I imagining things or didn't SW once say that he would have his replacement lined up when his time came to leave the club ??

Happy to be shown I have no memory cells at all 🥴

Edited June 27, 2023 by Mark .Y.

[Channon’s Windmill 408]

Just now, Mark .Y. said:

Am I imagining things or didn't SW once say that he would have his replacement lined up when his time came to leave the club ??

Happy to be shown to have no memory cells at all 🥴

I think the club also said we would adopt a style of play from the Academy through to to he first team that would continue whoever the manager/ SD was….again my memory may be failing me.

[Google Bot 3,922]

1 hour ago, Don J Demorr said:

A stunningly brilliant mixed metaphor! Sheer joy - I just have to steal it - after I've stopped laughing.Many many thanks.

I was actually eating a pie when typing that, too.  (With a spoon of course, not my fingers)

[hogesar 10,734]

2 hours ago, Jim Smith said:

…… not of a new sporting director but of a recruitment agent to try and find a new sporting director. Despite the fact Webber told us he was leaving several months ago.

Couldn’t make this stuff up. 
 

Great to hear also that the owners will continue to “not take any risks, in terms of investment.” How thoughtful of them. 

I dunno, you're pretty good at it.

I thought she'd said they'd already spoken with people but had decided after no luck to recruit specialists at trying to source. 

Which isn't that surprising when there's such a small pool of people with anywhere near the experience Webber has.

As I've always said, he will be difficult to replace with someone better no matter how much people don't like him.

[Don J Demorr 167]

12 minutes ago, Google Bot said:

I was actually eating a pie when typing that, too.  (With a spoon of course, not my fingers)

Huge kudos there, Botty, yet more brilliance - there seems no limit to your enviable capabilities. Despite years of effort I have never mastered the elusive art of typing with a spoon. Not even close. I suspect I'm not alone.....

[Bert 236]

The whole season is going to be a shambles isn’t it the early signs are poor 

[danielsroundabout 9]

Webber's time at the club is very much a tale of two halves, wonderfully successful initially and pretty woeful thereafter. It strikes me a little unusual that he remains in place working his notice. Here, we have a man structuring our rebuild and then leaving before we get to judge the results. That he is strongly rumoured to be joining a Championship rival makes his presence even more questionable. A previous post on this thread was critical of our owners for not following the lead of other listed clubs in not chasing success with more (borrowed?) cash. Could it be that the manner in which £55m. was sprayed up the wall two seasons ago, has deterred them from that idea? Such terrible recruitment that the purchases were not only not good enough for the league for which we bought them, they were not good enough for the league to which we were relegated.

[Yobocop 1,439]

3 hours ago, yellow_belly said:

I thought the same. They should have done this immediately, as any decent business (big or small) would.

Tinpot

Would imagine contractually they couldn’t 

[norfolkngood 1,174]

i do not mind a Recruitment agency taking a look for us ,

i do not want a mate of Webbers etc i want someone who is good and  if it takes someone to find the very best we can hire / afford  in World football hopefully a outsider might find this .

 

with Positions at the club we should always as high as we can afford / interested in coming here .

That is why i was so disappointed in Wagner appointment  

[Mello Yello 2,566]

I am more than slightly sympathetic towards Zoe....She remains here when her hubby goes elsewhere to create some future footballing Utopia.....

I really hope we hit the ground running and not the opposite.....

[Davidlingfield 72]

9 minutes ago, Mello Yello said:

I am more than slightly sympathetic towards Zoe....She remains here when her hubby goes elsewhere to create some future footballing Utopia.....

I really hope we hit the ground running and not the opposite.....

I am certainly not sympathetic towards her - she is already way out of her depth even with her husband to help her - so god news how she will cope once he is gone….

[SFCanary 12]

It's like most of you know how to run a company or something 😂

[City Stand Ultra 43]

1 hour ago, hogesar said:

I dunno, you're pretty good at it.

I thought she'd said they'd already spoken with people but had decided after no luck to recruit specialists at trying to source. 

Which isn't that surprising when there's such a small pool of people with anywhere near the experience Webber has.

As I've always said, he will be difficult to replace with someone better no matter how much people don't like him.

Maybe 2017/2018 Webber with a fair wind and a dollop of transfer good fortune is more difficult to replace 

Webber of recent seasons is a total bust.  “Backbeat , the word is on street that the fire in your heart is out”.  Nothing lasts forever and that includes Webber. He outperformed for 2-3 years then regressed dramatically to the long term mean as all unsupportable trends do. 
2020s Webber as far as recruitment and comms is concerned is replaceable by Blind Pew with a pin 

[Yellow Green Army 248]

We don’t need a recruitment agency at all. The perfect stand out candidate is currently out of work and available.

Michael Edwards. 

Go and get him Zoe and co.

[Google Bot 3,922]

1 hour ago, Don J Demorr said:

Huge kudos there, Botty, yet more brilliance - there seems no limit to your enviable capabilities.

I can also tuck my willy through my legs and pretend I'm a woman.  32 mins is about my limit though as it starts to go numb.

[vos 175]

Surely it is in Stuart's best interests to keep ticking over in his notice period to enable him to give him plenty of time to pursue all the possible offers for his services and it is basic human nature that his wife supports his goals. So it is quite understandable that there has been no rush to find a replacement and the combination is acting in a completely legitimate manner. Having said that from the Club and supporters viewpoint it is far from satisfactory particularly as the departing SD is recruiting players for next season and may even join one of our biggest opponents. Even worse there will be more delays because the CEO now  does not think she has the capabilities to find a suitable new SD. For us find us in this shambolic situation I am afraid it is the direct responsibility of the aged owners. As I have already said elsewhere we desperately need an experienced business man to take the helm.

[tricky974 63]

This will just be an advert on indeed and linkedin I suppose and a recruitment company charging us alot of money after interviewing candidates and making a recommendation 😂

[yellow_belly 227]

9 hours ago, Yobocop said:

Would imagine contractually they couldn’t 

Why? Your comment makes no sense.

Employee hands in notice, employer is ‘contractually’ unable to look for a replacement … instead they have to wait several months. Weird.

[Terminally Yellow 2,614]

Focus should be on the rebuild and giving Wagner every tool needed to succeed. Second focus should be on completing the take over. Third focus should be on getting the club ready to go for the new season. Replacing Webber comes 4th in our priority list right now given he's contractually obliged to be here until March. 

Replacing Webber is more about finding the right person than making a quick appointment and we have no rush given his most likely destination have said they won't make an appointment until October. I expect the new season will start and we'll see things on this front move quickly.

To see the usual suspects have a hissy fit over the club appointing a recruitment consultant is not a surprise.