SwearyCanary 1,171 Posted May 31 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said: Or was it for not disclosing the details of a meeting in which he agreed to match fix? That was the point I made. Not a good decision was it? Why are you trying to bait? Is it so surprising that a Scotsman has a decent overview of a world class Scottish sportsman? I’m not sure anything aside from faith in Billy G’s ability and this mention of Higgins in the context of sporting scandals insinuates DK is completely unable to accept Scottish wrongdoing in sport? F***ing pointless dig. Edited May 31 by SwearyCanary 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwearyCanary 1,171 Posted May 31 Also, Billy G had a much improved season, playing often in the best Brighton team in their history. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he is very good now is it? I didn’t rate him at city, but DKs knowledge of his earlier potential is showing through, despite a lot of laughing and abuse aimed his way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 552 Posted May 31 18 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said: Why are you trying to bait? Is it so surprising that a Scotsman has a decent overview of a world class Scottish sportsman? I’m not sure anything aside from faith in Billy G’s ability and this mention of Higgins in the context of sporting scandals insinuates DK is completely unable to accept Scottish wrongdoing in sport? F***ing pointless dig. Who died and left you in charge? What about Stephen Hendry being better than O’Sulivan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 552 Posted May 31 27 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said: Maybe you ought to read my initial post, as you'll find that I already said that. Are you trying to suggest that he did fix matches? No of course not. Not sure where I said that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkKnight 445 Posted May 31 11 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said: What about Stephen Hendry being better than O’Sulivan? Are people not allowed to have opinions? I think he is. Shoot me. Hang me. Cut me into wee pieces and make me into a stew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkKnight 445 Posted May 31 12 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said: No of course not. Not sure where I said that? You get an F. Must try harder. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 3,611 Posted May 31 3 hours ago, TheDarkKnight said: He was face-to-face with who he thought were gangsters. He said why they wanted they wanted to hear. I'm sure you would've told them to go **** themselves and go all Nightman on their Russian mafia ****? Bottom lime. He didn't fix any matches and was cleared by a panel. *drops truth mic* Lol. Yeah, said what they wanted to hear. They wanted to hear HIS plans on how he could make 300,000 Euros disappear, bringing up specifics like a Spanish property. And he even corrected the "gangster" when he said "so you can only really miss once before people ask questions", "no, no, I can keep missing". He didn't fix any matches, but he wasn't "cleared by the panel". They banned him for six months. That's not "innocent" now, is it? Best pick that mic up and correct your mistakes old boy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkKnight 445 Posted May 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, canarydan23 said: Lol. Yeah, said what they wanted to hear. They wanted to hear HIS plans on how he could make 300,000 Euros disappear, bringing up specifics like a Spanish property. And he even corrected the "gangster" when he said "so you can only really miss once before people ask questions", "no, no, I can keep missing". He didn't fix any matches, but he wasn't "cleared by the panel". They banned him for six months. That's not "innocent" now, is it? Best pick that mic up and correct your mistakes old boy. I dropped the mic. You didn't drop any knowledge, as I know all this. No. He didn't fix any matches, which is why he was cleared of match fixing. What he was "guilty of", but not declaring it to the proper authorities. For all he knew, it actually was the Russian Mafia, and he probably thought that if he did tell the authorities, his young family may have faced reprisals. It's nuanced Edited May 31 by TheDarkKnight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,250 Posted May 31 9 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said: It's nuanced Ever sold ice creams in Glasgow? That's nuanced too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkKnight 445 Posted May 31 5 hours ago, SwearyCanary said: Also, Billy G had a much improved season, playing often in the best Brighton team in their history. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he is very good now is it? I didn’t rate him at city, but DKs knowledge of his earlier potential is showing through, despite a lot of laughing and abuse aimed his way. Post of the season. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 3,611 Posted May 31 1 hour ago, TheDarkKnight said: I dropped the mic. You didn't drop any knowledge, as I know all this. No. He didn't fix any matches, which is why he was cleared of match fixing. What he was "guilty of", but not declaring it to the proper authorities. For all he knew, it actually was the Russian Mafia, and he probably thought that if he did tell the authorities, his young family may have faced reprisals. It's nuanced No, it's cognitive dissonance. Related to your compatriots. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 552 Posted May 31 5 hours ago, TheDarkKnight said: Are people not allowed to have opinions? I think he is. Shoot me. Hang me. Cut me into wee pieces and make me into a stew. No need to do that old chap. Nobody said you shouldn’t have an opinion. Sweary asked for a third example of your favouring a Scottish sportsperson counter to popular opinion and I provided him with one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,225 Posted May 31 My sort of thread lads, keep it going please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkKnight 445 Posted May 31 7 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: No, it's cognitive dissonance. Related to your compatriots. What, based on three examples? Hendry, Murray and Gilmour? Ask me my opinion on any other member of the Male Football squad and I'll give you an honest appraisal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkKnight 445 Posted May 31 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said: No need to do that old chap. Nobody said you shouldn’t have an opinion. Sweary asked for a third example of your favouring a Scottish sportsperson counter to popular opinion and I provided him with one. Oh. I'll offer you the same request: Go to the Male Football squad and I'll give you an honest, and an accurate, portrayal of any player of your choosing. Going by your narrative, I would be talking about Kenny McLean like he was an incarnations of Zidane. McLean is fine. Great squad member. Good for moral. But he's about 7th choice in the pecking order. Edited May 31 by TheDarkKnight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 3,611 Posted May 31 5 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said: What, based on three examples? Hendry, Murray and Gilmour? Ask me my opinion on any other member of the Male Football squad and I'll give you an honest appraisal. Murray? I know you have this weird, narcissistic belief that I stalk you around these forums, so it might surprise you to know I have no recollection at all of you ever talking about a Murray. Andy? Glenn? That shocking one we had on loan during the Roeder era? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkKnight 445 Posted May 31 (edited) 2 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: Murray? I know you have this weird, narcissistic belief that I stalk you around these forums, so it might surprise you to know I have no recollection at all of you ever talking about a Murray. Andy? Glenn? That shocking one we had on loan during the Roeder era? I have no idea what you're talking about. Have we even talked before? Serious question. In this forum I've had debates about Murray, Gilmour and Hendry. Whether, either was with you? No idea. Edited May 31 by TheDarkKnight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 552 Posted May 31 4 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said: Oh. I'll offer you the same request: Go to the Male Football squad and I'll give you an honest, and an accurate, portrayal of any player of your choosing. Ok. That should be more enjoyable than that spat. I’ll go for Gunn and Kenny to keep the local interest. For me I think Kenny is a reliable hard working player but has limitations. Prone to lapses in concentration but also able to provide some good moments. Angus I think is finally beginning to fulfil his potential and I’ve been pleasantly surprised with him this season. I can see him making the Scottish number 1 shirt his own for some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 3,611 Posted May 31 3 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said: I have no idea what you're talking about. Have we even talked before? Serious question. In this forum I've had debates about Murray, Gilmour and Hendry. Whether, either was with you? No idea. "Explain to me why you follow me around and troll me. Because I make outlandish comments? Makes no sense. If you dislike my comments so much, why actively engage?" This must be from another TheDarkKnight. Pretty weird to one day accuse someone of following them around and trolling them and then later pretending you can't remember who they are, isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkKnight 445 Posted May 31 Just now, Hairy Canary said: Ok. That should be more enjoyable than that spat. I’ll go for Gunn and Kenny to keep the local interest. For me I think Kenny is a reliable hard working player but has limitations. Prone to lapses in concentration but also able to provide some good moments. Angus I think is finally beginning to fulfil his potential and I’ve been pleasantly surprised with him this season. I can see him making the Scottish number 1 shirt his own for some time. Agreed. Could move it to the Scotland thread, though. McLean is OK. He's never let Scotland down, so I definitely have no axe to grind. He's good bringing him on to kill the game of, etc. I do dread when he starts, though, probably unfairly. Gunn? I have no opinion yet. I haven't seen him enough. I watched Norwich all season last season, but that was when Krull was in goals. I'll be honest, leading up to Gunn making his debut, I didn't want him to be anywhere near the Scotland squad. But now? I'm willing to give him a chance. Honourable mention to Hanley. He's had an up and down Scotland career. He was a rock against Spain, so I'm gutted that he's out for the Norway and Georgia matches. He's far better in a back three. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkKnight 445 Posted May 31 5 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: "Explain to me why you follow me around and troll me. Because I make outlandish comments? Makes no sense. If you dislike my comments so much, why actively engage?" This must be from another TheDarkKnight. Pretty weird to one day accuse someone of following them around and trolling them and then later pretending you can't remember who they are, isn't it? Meh. I don't care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazzaJet 227 Posted May 31 6 hours ago, SwearyCanary said: Also, Billy G had a much improved season, playing often in the best Brighton team in their history. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he is very good now is it? I didn’t rate him at city, but DKs knowledge of his earlier potential is showing through, despite a lot of laughing and abuse aimed his way. For a young player to develop, they usually need to play around a reasonably experienced squad which is probably why he failed with us - we saw that with Omobamidele this season (ok with Hanley/Gibson, poor with Sorensen) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwearyCanary 1,171 Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Hairy Canary said: No need to do that old chap. Nobody said you shouldn’t have an opinion. Sweary asked for a third example of your favouring a Scottish sportsperson counter to popular opinion and I provided him with one. No I didn’t?! Unless you can tell me what Stephen Hendry did that was in some way a scandal? An exceptional snooker player by the way, the best of his generation. O’Sullivan is outstanding but took over the baton of Hendry, as did he of Davis. Comparing them is like comparing footballers of different generations at their peak. Impossible to actually determine. It is just as valid to think peak Hendry would beat peak O’Sullivan as the other way around. I didn’t understand the need to try and not so subtlety dig at someone, I didn’t get left in charge, I pointed out your baiting. Don’t like it then bothers me none. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,316 Posted May 31 (edited) 7 hours ago, SwearyCanary said: Also, Billy G had a much improved season, playing often in the best Brighton team in their history. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he is very good now is it? I didn’t rate him at city, but DKs knowledge of his earlier potential is showing through, despite a lot of laughing and abuse aimed his way. He started 7 games and played the full 90 twice. Half his appearances lasted less than 10 mins. Often? Nope Edited May 31 by kirku Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwearyCanary 1,171 Posted May 31 1 minute ago, kirku said: Often? He started 7 games and lasted the full 90 twice. But played in 14, I know early doors for final subs. But majority came at end of season, beating Man Utd, Arsenal and drawing with Man City in that run. Alongside demolishing wolves 6-0 in a 90 minute spell. Had been roundly praised in those fixtures by fans and pundits. So in the last period of the season he played often. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwearyCanary 1,171 Posted May 31 I get those that don’t like his lack of contribution for us l, because that was the case, but there’s obviously a player there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,316 Posted May 31 6 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said: But played in 14, I know early doors for final subs. But majority came at end of season, beating Man Utd, Arsenal and drawing with Man City in that run. Alongside demolishing wolves 6-0 in a 90 minute spell. Had been roundly praised in those fixtures by fans and pundits. So in the last period of the season he played often. For balance, he also played in the 5-1 and 4-1 defeats to Newcastle and Everton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,316 Posted May 31 6 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said: I get those that don’t like his lack of contribution for us l, because that was the case, but there’s obviously a player there. He's a mid-tier talent at best. DK claimed he'd walk into the England side.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwearyCanary 1,171 Posted May 31 4 minutes ago, kirku said: He's a mid-tier talent at best. DK claimed he'd walk into the England side.. Harry Maguire walks into the England side and he is gash. DK based that on the position Gilmour plays and asked for players in the same position to compare against. It wasn’t just a generic statement. It’s academic anyway, we don’t really play with a Gilmour type midfielder. Time will tell on the mid tier talent comment I guess. Whatever mid tier means 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skittles 0 Posted May 31 It’s the Norwich fans thinking that McCallum is our next season left back not players being idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites