shefcanary 2,387 Posted May 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Harry53 said: But my brother who supports Reading said that Ince wasn't very good last season I'd agree with him! Whenever I saw anything of Reading, Ince just sort of hung out on the pitch without doing much at all apart from exchanging (un)pleasantries with his dad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,138 Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, jaberry2 said: We've never actually had a defender who can defend for a while, so it shouldnt be an issue. That's my beef, although we've had some decent actual defenders (Hanley?) our full-backs haven't been solely that, and they all seem to have the need for strong attacking ability built overmuch into their job spec. A replacement for Aarons should be primarily a defender. Edited May 30, 2023 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,675 Posted May 30, 2023 2 hours ago, wcorkcanary said: We need at least 2 players for each position , do you actually understand football? Do we? You don't say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted May 30, 2023 2 hours ago, wcorkcanary said: We need at least 2 players for each position , do you actually understand football? Are we going to sign two scapegoats? I feel like we're lacking in that department since Gilmore left 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 746 Posted May 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, AJ said: Are we going to sign two scapegoats? I feel like we're lacking in that department since Gilmore left McLeans back from injury now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barham Blitz 652 Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, AJ said: Are we going to sign two scapegoats? I feel like we're lacking in that department since Gilmore left Playing scapegoats at least. Kenny's upturn in form and his and Hanley's injuries meant they officially achieved 'players we can't do without' status, left us short of scapegoating potential and despite everyone else trying to fill the void in their absence nobody really stood out individually as being worse than the rest ... This could be Idah's chance to shine next season though ... Unless he goes out on loan and starts banging them in in League 1 at which point he will become the 'why didn't we keep him' option to replace Mumba.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, wcorkcanary said: We need at least 2 players for each position , do you actually understand football?  16 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Do we? You don't say Well, no actually. There has been a longstanding criticism of Webber by the likes of @Parma Ham's gone mouldy that the recruitment strategy was to spread the squad too thinly in order to have cover but at the cost of not having any outstanding players or weapons. What we need is a better starting eleven, augmented with the kids. loans and utility players who can fit into a number of different positions. We just don't have the cash for 22 top-end Champs ready players, this would leave us with a squad of below average journeymen. Edited May 30, 2023 by BigFish 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,089 Posted May 30, 2023 3 hours ago, PurpleCanary said: Poor old straight-man (ie boring but crucial defensive central midfielder) Zeppo always get forgotten...🤩 For a reason… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,089 Posted May 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, Barham Blitz said: Playing scapegoats at least. Kenny's upturn in form and his and Hanley's injuries meant they officially achieved 'players we can't do without' status, left us short of scapegoating potential and despite everyone else trying to fill the void in their absence nobody really stood out individually as being worse than the rest ... This could be Idah's chance to shine next season though ... Unless he goes out on loan and starts banging them in in League 1 at which point he will become the 'why didn't we keep him' option to replace Mumba.  If only we had replaced Wagner with Martin when we had the chance. Coach and experienced scapegoat in one. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,578 Posted May 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, BigFish said:  Well, no actually. There has been a longstanding criticism of Webber by the likes of @Parma Ham's gone mouldy that the recruitment strategy was to spread the squad too thinly in order to have cover but at the cost of not having any outstanding players or weapons. What we need is a better starting eleven, augmented with the kids. loans and utility players who can fit into a number of different positions. We just don't have the cash for 22 top-end Champs ready players, this would leave us with a squad of below average journeymen. Completely agree. There is a huge value in a player who can competently cover two or three positions, even if they aren't good enough to start week in week out. Sorenson can kind of fill that role in defensive midfield and fullback, although not central defence. What we do need to avoid though is a situation where a first choice in one position is also our only backup for another position. That means one injury has a doubly destabilising effect on the team. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,095 Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) Coach now announced on official club website/socials I’m not putting a link in, go and find it yourself Edited May 31, 2023 by Yobocop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,095 Posted May 31, 2023 Also I’m getting serious ‘Mikel Arteta off of Wish’ vibes from this geezer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,160 Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Yobocop said: Also I’m getting serious ‘Mikel Arteta off of Wish’ vibes from this geezer I for one have absolutely no idea what you're getting at . This could literally be written in Japanese and I would understand just as much of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,448 Posted May 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, It's Character Forming said: I for one have absolutely no idea what you're getting at . This could literally be written in Japanese and I would understand just as much of it. Wish.com is a Chinese online market place where you can buy cheap knock offs which rarely work, quickly break and aren't worth the price. So a Mikel Arteta off of wish is a more modern day way of saying that Pelach is a poor man's Mikel Arteta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,932 Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Yobocop said: Also I’m getting serious ‘Mikel Arteta off of Wish’ vibes from this geezer Pretty fitting if you accept the idea that Wagner is just Jürgen Klopp off Wish. 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,637 Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) We now have the coach and a defender signed - so it wasn’t too long in coming. Edited May 31, 2023 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PockthorpePete 331 Posted May 31, 2023 23 hours ago, BigFish said:  Well, no actually. There has been a longstanding criticism of Webber by the likes of @Parma Ham's gone mouldy that the recruitment strategy was to spread the squad too thinly in order to have cover but at the cost of not having any outstanding players or weapons. What we need is a better starting eleven, augmented with the kids. loans and utility players who can fit into a number of different positions. We just don't have the cash for 22 top-end Champs ready players, this would leave us with a squad of below average journeymen. Really ? Lambert seemed to be able to, as have 'lesser' clubs like Millwall, Luton, Coventry. Did they have the parachute payments we had. Or income from player sales. And I am not sure either which end of our ground is the top. The danger of 'weak' back up was shown when Hanley, Gibson and McClean were out. The Championship is a tough division, literally. We have players who were easily bullied off the ball. The signings we have made so far look to be addressing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted May 31, 2023 46 minutes ago, PockthorpePete said: Really ? Lambert seemed to be able to, as have 'lesser' clubs like Millwall, Luton, Coventry. Did they have the parachute payments we had. Or income from player sales. And I am not sure either which end of our ground is the top. The danger of 'weak' back up was shown when Hanley, Gibson and McClean were out. The Championship is a tough division, literally. We have players who were easily bullied off the ball. The signings we have made so far look to be addressing that. Yes really. Do you honestly think that any of the three clubs you mention have 22 Champs quality players or we did when Lambert was here? That was what was being suggested. Do you really think our 1st eleven was good enough last season. We need a starting eleven that contains high quality champs players (what I meant by top-end, which you didn't understand). We don't get that by spreading our wage bill across 22 rather than say 12/13. A strong bench is fine, but it is no compensation for a lack of weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,932 Posted May 31, 2023 Another thing about Stacey and Barnes - both have recent experience of getting out of the Championship too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PockthorpePete 331 Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: Another thing about Stacey and Barnes - both have recent experience of getting out of the Championship too. More pertinent, is both have experience of playing in the Championship. Nunez, Sara and Marquis did not - and it showed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted May 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, PockthorpePete said: More pertinent, is both have experience of playing in the Championship. Nunez, Sara and Marquis did not - and it showed. Sara was POTS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,932 Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, PockthorpePete said: More pertinent, is both have experience of playing in the Championship. Nunez, Sara and Marquis did not - and it showed. I suppose by definition, getting out of the Championship means you've experience of playing in it. They've played in it, and done well enough to get back out. We had problems when two of our main ones were out near the back end of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,095 Posted May 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Terminally Yellow said: Wish.com is a Chinese online market place where you can buy cheap knock offs which rarely work, quickly break and aren't worth the price. So a Mikel Arteta off of wish is a more modern day way of saying that Pelach is a poor man's Mikel Arteta. Thanks for explanation lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,314 Posted June 1, 2023 On 30/05/2023 at 13:38, Harry53 said: Maybe we play 3 central defenders and 5 across the middle? Bali still would have to defend though To be honest, Mumba looked at his best for us in that cameo he had at left midfield. Since Onel is markedly better on the right but strangely never gets played there, I would be perfectly happy with Mumba wide left and Onel wide right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,448 Posted June 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: To be honest, Mumba looked at his best for us in that cameo he had at left midfield. Since Onel is markedly better on the right but strangely never gets played there, I would be perfectly happy with Mumba wide left and Onel wide right Christ, what an underwhelming line up that would be. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,195 Posted June 1, 2023 We're on a roll. I wonder who will be arriving today? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 550 Posted June 1, 2023 38 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: We're on a roll. I wonder who will be arriving today? Im guessing Duffy will be the next arrival, but doubtful that will be today. I would expect to hear about some outs shortly, where I suspect something for Rashica will be agreed shortly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites