Wagner on Webber

[kenfoggo 261]

According to our head coach there must be no finger pointing and especially not in the direction of his friend and his boss who appointed him. There is no blame for the 0-3 defeat at home against Swansea, certainly none that can be aimed at Webber. According to Wagner . We are all one- owners, directors, coaches , players supporters and the media. Accordingly we are all to blame. I have to respectfully disagree. There is obviously a huge degree of disconnect between the Club and the supporters and a huge degree of lack of candour from our Head Coach. Anyone who witnessed the game against Swansea could see the total lack of character and commitment from the players. The blame for this, and blame at some stage must be apportioned, does not lay with the supporters. The supporters did not appoint the Sporting Director nor the Head Coach and the supporters certainly did not purchase the squad nor pick the team nor decide on the playing tactics. Mr Wagner can attempt to deflect responsibility from himself, the Sporting Director and the players.

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

This was yesterday’s post-match interview, you’re a little late to that party!

[AJ 1,359]

Shock as employee defends person who hired him...

[nutty nigel 7,902]

I don't think it's the fans fault but many did blame it all on Smith earlier in the season. 

Edited April 23, 2023 by nutty nigel

[canarydan23 4,762]

[repman 753]

43 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

I don't think it's the fans fault but many did blame it all on Smith earlier in the season. 

I blame the majority of the on pitch performance this season on Smith and Wagner. Webber's fault here is that he appointed 2 bad coaches in a row. 

This move to act like maybe Smith wasn't doing badly only makes sense if you ignore the possibility that neither Smith or Wagner are any good.

[Jim Smith 2,610]

8 hours ago, repman said:

I blame the majority of the on pitch performance this season on Smith and Wagner. Webber's fault here is that he appointed 2 bad coaches in a row. 

This move to act like maybe Smith wasn't doing badly only makes sense if you ignore the possibility that neither Smith or Wagner are any good.

Really? I think you are in a minority there. Yes Smith and Wagner take some of the blame, they’ve not done well. But I think most are if the view that the squad that has been assembled is imbalanced and the recruitment and handling of contracts has been awful. 

[canarydan23 4,762]

2 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

Really? I think you are in a minority there. Yes Smith and Wagner take some of the blame, they’ve not done well. But I think most are if the view that the squad that has been assembled is imbalanced and the recruitment and handling of contracts has been awful. 

The squad is absolutely nowhere near where it should be given our position relative to the rest of the Championship; money spent on it, wage budget, etc.

However, it still should be comfortably making the playoffs. When it plays, it plays well; look at our double versus possible playoff contenders Coventry, or impressive away victories versus Preston, Millwall and Blackburn. Too many to say we just caught a team on an off day.

[Canary Pie 30]

Beißen Sie nicht in die Hand, die Sie füttert

[Capt. Pants 5,008]

I don't think there is much to choose between Smith and Wagner quite honestly.

They're either both not that good at leading a group of players, or the resources they are working with aren't receptive or capable of implementing the direction given.

We clearly need a lot of change within that group of players. Is Webber the right man to take that forward? He's too 'far gone' here, I don't see how he can retrieve the situation in my opinion.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Capt. Pants

[repman 753]

1 hour ago, Jim Smith said:

Really? I think you are in a minority there. Yes Smith and Wagner take some of the blame, they’ve not done well. But I think most are if the view that the squad that has been assembled is imbalanced and the recruitment and handling of contracts has been awful. 

When you look at how completely outmatched we were on Saturday it’s clear that the coaching this season has been nowhere near good enough. There are doubts over players and maybe we lack in some positions but even if the squad was perfect 11 players don’t just go out and become a great team. Swansea had a side that isn’t greater than us talent wise but they had a plan on how to play, something we do not.

[Dean Coneys boots 1,531]

Name one thing Wagner has done to merit being here next season and shaping our future at such a crucial time? He’s a nice chap, yes, but is he still a good coach? Aside from the Huddersfield rise- he’s been a failure since then. For me he has taken us backwards not forwards. This might be harsh as this rubbish squad seem incapable of playing for anyone. Nevertheless I think we should let him go at season end and have a total clean slate. Last ten matches I just don’t see what Wagner is doing tactically 

[TIL 1010 5,246]

12 hours ago, nutty nigel said:

I don't think it's the fans fault but many did blame it all on Smith earlier in the season. 

Not you though as maybe you were impressed with the turgid football on show and his boring uninsightful interviews that would send most people to sleep.

[Mello Yello 2,572]

Waggo's hardly gonna bite the hand that feeds....

[nutty nigel 7,902]

3 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

Not you though as maybe you were impressed with the turgid football on show and his boring uninsightful interviews that would send most people to sleep.

Nope I made my thoughts clear on here when Buh was chasing me around about 'sitting on the fence'.

It was that Dean Smith had never done anything memorable in my eyes but I wasn't sure that changing the manager would improve things. I just don't go around now telling everyone I was right.