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1 hour ago, lake district canary said:

Does anyone think we still have a chance? 

I genuinely do, yes! *hiccup*

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7 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said:

OK I will bite, as YOU say "football is not like that", as YOU say "just because we are on a bad run it does not mean we cannot turn it around", as YOU say "IF {Insert event here] happens" etc, etc........We could still win our last two games, other results go our way and we end up in the top 6 at the end of the season. I personally do not think it will happen and I am one of those who came to the conclusion some time ago that we would not make it into the top 6, based on many years experience of playing football, watching football, nay living and breathing football. You appear to think that your knowledge of football is greater than mine, and many others that post on here, that may be the case, but that all said you are still a big fat hypocrite by writing us off now when there is still a mathematical chance of us getting into the play off spots IF (one of your favourite words and the basis of your lectures on the subject) we win our last two games................

If we win our last two games and somehow get into the play offs,  I'll eat my hat.

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8 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Lol de lol.  If I were a troll, I must be a very sad one for sticking with this forum for so long.

Some people think they understand football, but fail to understand football and that just because you're on a bad run, or struggling, it doesn't mean you can't turn it round. The last few games have shown that a turn round was unlikely, but it was never set in stone.  Failing to win against Rotherham was the key result imo and just left too much to do, but it's fine margins, win that game and the team would have had a better chance in the last few matches.

Totally agree with that but I think the turning point was the Sunderland game. Went into that after winning at Millwall and just didn't turn up. Great atmosphere before kick off just evaporated after they scored.  Still onwards and upwards 💚💛

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13 hours ago, beanbag said:

Remember it is not over, until the fat lady sings . There is still hope.

This forum’s so woke, I’m surprised no one’s taken offence over the use ‘fat’ or ‘lady’.

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11 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Anyone that thinks we still stand a chance now is loco.

 

8 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said:

OK I will bite, as YOU say "football is not like that", as YOU say "just because we are on a bad run it does not mean we cannot turn it around", as YOU say "IF {Insert event here] happens" etc, etc........We could still win our last two games, other results go our way and we end up in the top 6 at the end of the season. I personally do not think it will happen and I am one of those who came to the conclusion some time ago that we would not make it into the top 6, based on many years experience of playing football, watching football, nay living and breathing football. You appear to think that your knowledge of football is greater than mine, and many others that post on here, that may be the case, but that all said you are still a big fat hypocrite by writing us off now when there is still a mathematical chance of us getting into the play off spots IF (one of your favourite words and the basis of your lectures on the subject) we win our last two games................

Indeed, this thread is no different to Lakey’s thread 2 games ago.

Lakey doesn’t go to games, so does not understand how our club is no longer functioning. That’s everything not just results.

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38 minutes ago, raunds canary said:

Totally agree with that but I think the turning point was the Sunderland game. Went into that after winning at Millwall and just didn't turn up. Great atmosphere before kick off just evaporated after they scored.  Still onwards and stagnation then downwards  💚💛

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18 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Indeed, this thread is no different to Lakey’s thread 2 games ago.

Lakey doesn’t go to games, so does not understand how our club is no longer functioning. That’s everything not just results.

Just to say this is not my thread, but I can accept I don't have all the insights of those of you that go every week, but football is unpredictable and you just never know.  I don't really understand how the whole club isn't functioning, it surely is functioning but that there is too much negativity holding it back.

My hobbyhorse is this thing about negativity being destructive to a football club and that people have to fight the urge to be negative. Once set in, it is very hard to get rid of and it will affect the club.  Whether that negativity starts with poor performances on the pitch, or bad leadership off it, or even if the fans expect too much and start getting negative, negativity is corosive and liable to set us back.

Farke, inspired us to great positivity and that bubble burst with the lockdown.  We were still fighting in that first PL season, right up to the beginning of the lockdown.  He managed to restore that the following season which was sensational with a record breaking points total, which was an astonishing turn round.

Positivity disappeared in the second PL season and the dreaded negativity set in, on the pitch and off it, with Smith unable to be the inspiration that was needed and even Wagner for all his positivity couldn't turn it round. That is where Warnock is so good - he can come in to a club and shake it up, brush away negativity and get players playing. Yes, he's limited technically, but it is his character that does it. Alex Neil was able to do that kind of job when he forst came to us, but couldn't sustain it in the PL.

So we have negativity pervading the place - it needs a shake up in that case. Attanasio may be able to do that, lets hope so.

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2 hours ago, Well b back said:

 

Indeed, this thread is no different to Lakey’s thread 2 games ago.

Lakey doesn’t go to games, so does not understand how our club is no longer functioning. That’s everything not just results.

As I've said for years,

The man is either a really commited and dedicated Troll/WUM or lacks even the most basic self-awareness/emotional intelligence skills.

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1 hour ago, lake district canary said:

Just to say this is not my thread, but I can accept I don't have all the insights of those of you that go every week, but football is unpredictable and you just never know.  I don't really understand how the whole club isn't functioning, it surely is functioning but that there is too much negativity holding it back.

My hobbyhorse is this thing about negativity being destructive to a football club and that people have to fight the urge to be negative. Once set in, it is very hard to get rid of and it will affect the club.  Whether that negativity starts with poor performances on the pitch, or bad leadership off it, or even if the fans expect too much and start getting negative, negativity is corosive and liable to set us back.

Farke, inspired us to great positivity and that bubble burst with the lockdown.  We were still fighting in that first PL season, right up to the beginning of the lockdown.  He managed to restore that the following season which was sensational with a record breaking points total, which was an astonishing turn round.

Positivity disappeared in the second PL season and the dreaded negativity set in, on the pitch and off it, with Smith unable to be the inspiration that was needed and even Wagner for all his positivity couldn't turn it round. That is where Warnock is so good - he can come in to a club and shake it up, brush away negativity and get players playing. Yes, he's limited technically, but it is his character that does it. Alex Neil was able to do that kind of job when he forst came to us, but couldn't sustain it in the PL.

So we have negativity pervading the place - it needs a shake up in that case. Attanasio may be able to do that, let’s hope so.

Yup, the commitment, positivity and ‘never say die’ attitude beamed in remotely from Cumbria is nothing short of inspirational. 

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Even if, and that's such a massive if we win both games, that ends us on 68 points, that won't be enough. 6th place will get 70

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32 minutes ago, CDMullins said:

As I've said for years,

The man is either a really commited and dedicated Troll/WUM or lacks even the most basic self-awareness/emotional intelligence skills.

Not so. There are two things people don't like - me questioning their support and me being positive in the face of adversity. I can see those two things together don't make me the most popular of posters, but believe me I have much better things to do with my time than trolling on a football forum.

I believe if you support a club you have a responsibility to it to be active in a positive way and not let yourself get too negative or down about things when it goes badly. Football managers say it all the time about their players - don't let a loss to get you too down for too long and don't let a win get you too carried away for too long either.  Feel sad at a loss, feel good at a win - and then put it behind you.

That applies to supoorters too imo. Why invest so much time and money in supporting a club and spend so much of that time being negative about it?  It's all very well getting p!ssed off at a bad result or a bad run, but if you allow that to affect you in the next match, you are bringing negativity to that match - much like a player would if they allowed the previous week's loss to affect them

We're not robots and are going to get annoyed, frustrated or even depressed about how it goes sometimes, but it is my strong belief that as a supporter, you have to try and fight that negativity when it comes to the next match. When I used to go every week in years gone by, it was always with a great anticipation that we could do well, even if we were bottom of the league, or following bad results.

I can't understand the ease at which the Norwich crowd gets so fed up so readily. I remember Alex Neil saying that he felt the crowd got anxious too quickly at games and he couldn't understand it either. One paricular memory i have is the season Huddersfield came to Norwich (under Wagner) and they were playing great and winning 2-1 at CR - and the crowd were calling for our manager's head and shouting "you don't know what you're doing", even though we were in contention for promotion and just one goal down. WTF is all that about?  Is it lacking in emotional intelligence to question that, or am I supposed to pretend that I have to feel sorry for supporters because they aren't getting exactly what they want? 

It's been a sh*t season, a sh*t two seasons actually, but there is always hope...and as I was so hopeful and positive about Farke in his second season with us when so many were calling for his head, it turned out I was correct to be positive - we won five out of the next six games!  So it is alway better to be hopeful/positive - you just never know in football when a change for the better might happen.

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3 hours ago, lake district canary said:

If we win our last two games and somehow get into the play offs,  I'll eat my hat.

Exactly, I and others thought that a while ago, didn't stop you lecturing though, thank goodness you have finally seen sense..........

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12 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Does anyone think we still have a chance? 

Beanbag does

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