king canary 7,456 Posted March 16, 2023 On 12/03/2023 at 07:20, Herman said: Maybe, just maybe, this whole debacle has been used to cover up the fact that the brexit government has just spent another half a billion pounds to fix something that brexit has exacerbated?? Just to say the idea the Government want people to be distracted from the small boats policy somewhat shows how out of touch people can be. The small boats policy is popular- the Government want people to be talking about it because the kind of people who might vote for them think it is good. Arguing with Lineker over it is not good for them and has taken the focus off a policy that is popular (not with me I might add) and instead put the focus on the fact the Government seems thin skinned and authoritarian in its response to criticism. That this has dominated the headlines is because the Tories are bad at politics, it isn't a dead cat or distraction technique. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,290 Posted March 16, 2023 On 15/03/2023 at 07:28, horsefly said: Oh dear! That lasted well did it not! I know the idea of worker's rights appall you, but alas for the BBC it has very clearly stated policies that protect the right of freelance sports presenters to speak freely on any matter they like when they are not on air. So there can be no sackings. So sorry to burst more blood vessels in your pinky gammon face. Unless you have actually seen Lineker's contract with the BBC you are just blowing smoke out of your rear end. But you are the bloke who doesn't understand the difference between a contract and a treaty so none of us are surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, king canary said: Just to say the idea the Government want people to be distracted from the small boats policy somewhat shows how out of touch people can be. The small boats policy is popular- the Government want people to be talking about it because the kind of people who might vote for them think it is good. Arguing with Lineker over it is not good for them and has taken the focus off a policy that is popular (not with me I might add) and instead put the focus on the fact the Government seems thin skinned and authoritarian in its response to criticism. That this has dominated the headlines is because the Tories are bad at politics, it isn't a dead cat or distraction technique. Maybe I still live in the hope that this government is far more competent than it really is. As you can guess I have struggled to understand why they would ramp up an innocuous tweet, that would easily have gotten lost in the other hot takes, and turned it into a 5 day row. Occam's Razor rules apply in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,412 Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: Viewers are certainly leaving the BBC in droves. It's not a crap argument, it is a fact. Viewers no longer trust the mainstream media and refuse to watch propaganda masquerading as entertainment. It's good to see which sports commentators are refusing to work as it will make it easier to sack them. Hopefully the political commentators will join their sporting comrades in refusing to work so that we can sack them too. Don't tell me. They are migrating to GB News and TalkTV with its rounded, democratic, neutral presenters and news readers. Is that how you balance it out? I accuse the BBC of being left wing so lets have news channels that are right wing and don't even report much from the rest unless its something they can deride. Much as most of the people I'm acquainted with who don't trust big pharma are only too quick to have a spliff or stuff coke up their noses regardless of having no knowledge of its history and no quality assurance, it's striking that the biggest mistrust of the mainstream media seems to be driven by those who mainly get their news from tweets and memes. Edited March 16, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benchwarmer 624 Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Herman said: Maybe I still live in the hope that this government is far more competent than it really is. As you can guess I have struggled to understand why they would ramp up an innocuous tweet, that would easily have gotten lost in the other hot takes, and turned it into a 5 day row. Occam's Razor rules apply in this case. Regardless of how competent this government may or may not be, the actions of the previous one in taking us out of the EU leave them little room for manoeuvre. It's the most disastrous UK political decision of my lifetime (nearly 72 years), even worse than Blair's decision to go to war in Iraq. Without a reversal of Brexit this country has no future, and deep down many ordinary people know it. Leave supporters in particular expect this government to make Brexit work. The truth is that no one can make it work, but small boats is one of the few things they think they can do something about. That's why they're so sensitive to Lineker's comments. Edited March 16, 2023 by benchwarmer 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,263 Posted March 18, 2023 On 16/03/2023 at 12:03, Rock The Boat said: Unless you have actually seen Lineker's contract with the BBC you are just blowing smoke out of your rear end. But you are the bloke who doesn't understand the difference between a contract and a treaty so none of us are surprised. Ah! the guy who described the victims of a child sex abuser as who*res is back on form talking sh*ite as usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,263 Posted March 18, 2023 On 15/03/2023 at 08:22, Herman said: Have you seen his twitter profile picture? 😀 Yes indeed! They guy is simply brilliant at this game. Far too good for any of his critics to get close to beating him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy2600 282 Posted March 18, 2023 Lineaker irrelevant tax dodging big-eared idiot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,265 Posted March 18, 2023 Poor bloke's losing his voice.....shame..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benchwarmer 624 Posted March 18, 2023 Irony of the month: the Illegal Migration Bill could hardly be more aptly named. That's exactly what it is - illegal. Even Braverman admits it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,412 Posted March 18, 2023 Once it's known that those caught crossing illegally will simply be moved out, it'll take away a lot of the incentive to cross in the first place. The problem's a Gordian knot; the only option is to cut the rope. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,746 Posted March 19, 2023 11 hours ago, Foxy2600 said: Lineaker irrelevant tax dodging big-eared idiot If you're going to libel people you could at least spell their name correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted March 19, 2023 Belsen didn't have as nice a view as this. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,447 Posted March 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Herman said: Belsen didn't have as nice a view as this. I've read too that it's a stone's throw from the beach. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted March 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, sonyc said: I've read too that it's a stone's throw from the beach. It's grim isn't it, really bloody grim that we have someone like her in such an important role. I won't even mention the journalism, or whatever that is supposed to be. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattyboy 1 Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Herman said: I totally agree with this statement; it was totally the wrong decision for the BBC to suspend Gary Lineker. I say that as someone who voted for Brexit,. I am totally for free speech, and against authoritarianism. However, I would also add it's a shame how many left-leaning commentators who would say they are all for liberty, behaved in the opposite way during COVID, and when it comes to discussing things such as trans rights, climate change, dissenting voices against positive discriminationm, etc, etc Edited March 19, 2023 by mattyboy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,066 Posted March 28, 2023 On 18/03/2023 at 18:50, Foxy2600 said: Lineaker irrelevant tax dodging big-eared idiot OK, he's still got big ears but the rest of your post was complete b0ll0x. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted March 28, 2023 On 10/03/2023 at 20:29, yellowrider120 said: Well allow me to put some context to this whole anti Daily Mail (sorry should that now be Daily 'Heil' in some peoples minds?) rant. In 1997 the said paper ran a huge headline 'Murderers' showing pictures of the thugs who attacked, beat and murdered Steven Lawrence. In fact when said criminals were finally bought to justice, Lord Justice Leveson called the Mail's campaign.....'an example of great journalism' . Lawrence was black and his attackers white. Doesn't exactly fit your 'national socialist' tag does it? Bringing matters bang up to date, last year immediately Russia invaded Ukraine, the Daily Mail, Mail on Sunday and Mail Online launched a massive fundraising campaign to support Ukrainian refugees. Within two months, over TEN MILLION £'s was raised. Again, I'm not entirely sure how this stacks up with their 'absolute s++t journalism' or their audiences 'prejudices' let along the 'national socialist' nature of the paper. No doubt you will be delighted to educate me on these matters? This hasn't aged well either. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/stephen-lawrence-daily-mail-mother-b2308894.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, A Load of Squit said: OK, he's still got big ears but the rest of your post was complete b0ll0x. That can't be right, @TeemuVanBasten spent considerable effort telling us all he was a serial tax avoider and definitely owned the government a fortune. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,140 Posted March 28, 2023 On 18/03/2023 at 18:50, Foxy2600 said: Lineaker irrelevant tax dodging big-eared idiot I guess you now think the judge should be sacked. Hope you never have to face the law for something you didn’t do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,140 Posted March 28, 2023 On 14/03/2023 at 10:46, TeemuVanBasten said: How on earth have you deduced that my post was support for the government, it was pointing out that Lineker is in a whole world of sh*t. So I have to suck off a serial tax avoider to show that I wouldn't mind a change in government? No thanks, but you rim who you want to. I'll happily vote tactically for the Lib Dems in my constituency (Labour have got no chance here, I live amongst the monied), I don't see where getting teabagged by a tax avoiding multi-millionaire Royalist named Gary with a creepy brother has to come into it, if somebody has told you that this is necessary then I'm afraid you may have been misled. Let’s hope his lawyer doesn’t read your post lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites