Connection- How can the club do better

[Ulfotto 421]

A lot has been said about a growing loss of connection between the club and the fans. Little if an airtime has been given to how it can be improved. Any one got any ideas? Which don’t include winning games.

I’ll throw a few in

Given the ill fated BK8 saga how about going down the route of putting a local charity or organisation on the shirts. Visit Norfolk would be a good one.

Player loyalty make this a bigger deal. I remember one random game Stepi was presented with a picture of his best moments before a game by Delia. Make this a regular thing and expand it.

Get more local food and drink business involved to supply food and drink on match days.

Double the grass roots budget.

It boils down you don’t need to be the one of the most successful or richest clubs on the pitch to be one of the best clubs.

Edited February 14 by Ulfotto

[Wibble 82]

I would prefer if they just got the football side of things right tbh.

[canarydan23 3,630]

I think Webber has become an anathema for too many supporters for anything to improve on this front whilst he remains in post. There is a perception, rightly or wrongly, that he has made himself unsackable and cannot tolerate challenge. There is significant merit to this idea, I mentioned on a thread a few months ago that since he's come in, anyone of any significant experience (in terms of years) has vanished. All "Head of" positions are filled by people in there 20s and 30s, the only older person in any position of influence is Neil Adams and he's only there because he's proven that he won't challenge the big man at the top.

When you chuck in the other, perhaps less well-deserved, perception that he is not longer fully-committed to the club and more interested in his mountaineering endeavours, he's become something of a pariah.

And that's before you even consider his catastrophic misuse of transfer funds that would probably make a few Tory ministers feel a bit of shame.

There needs to be an older head, completely independent of the Webbers, in a senior role. And they can front up the drive to heal the rift between fans and club. At this point, anything with Webber's name attached to it will lack sincerity and be dismissed as meaningless platitudes rather than something that will improve things.

[rock bus 667]

Honest and open communication both direct with fans and the local press.

 Basically just less bull like we have a strategy for appointing the next manager designed to keep the playing style and ethics of the club and then appointing an idiot like smith who wasn’t initially available and clearly had no desire to identify with our club!

[TheRock 106]

The club seems to have an "Us v Them" attitude when it comes to anyone who has an opinion that differs to their own agenda, hence why the Journalists have wrongfully been exiled as a result of the recent rift. Stop trying to run a closed shop.

Edited February 14 by TheRock

[Pyro Pete 1,587]

Getting the football right would be a good start.

Having a mature relationship with the local media, who the fans rely on for their information on all things Norwich City, would be another win-win.

Also, Webber has kind of made a rod for his own back by being so vocal when he first came in. Then withdrawing from the media spotlight when things aren't so rosy. Having someone else instead as the spokesperson for the club might ease this disconnection.

Plus, while I genuinely enjoy TNC's interviews. They're not journalists, and don't pretend to be. It's hard not to think that by giving them exclusive interviews with City players and staff, and not serious journalists, the club are manipulating the fans to some extent.

And did the sausage roll situation ever get resolved?

[shefcanary 1,708]

We are currently in this in between period now until we know the full outcome of lasts nights GM shenanigans. When the dust settles from that I anticipate that Attanasio will take full control of proceedings.

I don't expect an overnight clear out, but I would expect by the beginning of next season we will see the connection with the club's supporters strengthened along tried and tested routes, rather than some of the "whizz-bang" off-field and wider community efforts from the current executive. Sure, performance on the pitch helps, but just sort out the nuts and bolts of people's match day experience, focus on why people come to the Carra and what distances this experience from other competing activity. There's a lot of work to do, but not groundbreaking work.  Frankly I don't think the current executive team have proven they are good at it because they have lacked real guidance from the Board. The current team play at peripheral stuff whilst neglecting the core support. Given proper roll your sleeves up, hands on support from the Board, they might be able to affect things. If they don't, we will see Attanasio bringing in some new people to achieve this. 

[Mengo 757]

30 minutes ago, TheRock said:

The club seems to have an "Us v Them" attitude when it comes to anyone who has an opinion that differs to their own agenda, hence why the Journalists have wrongfully been exiled as a result of the recent rift. Stop trying to run a closed shop.

 

[Danke bitte 916]

7 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

We are currently in this in between period now until we know the full outcome of lasts nights GM shenanigans. When the dust settles from that I anticipate that Attanasio will take full control of proceedings.

I don't expect an overnight clear out, but I would expect by the beginning of next season we will see the connection with the club's supporters strengthened along tried and tested routes, rather than some of the "whizz-bang" off-field and wider community efforts from the current executive. Sure, performance on the pitch helps, but just sort out the nuts and bolts of people's match day experience, focus on why people come to the Carra and what distances this experience from other competing activity. There's a lot of work to do, but not groundbreaking work.  Frankly I don't think the current executive team have proven they are good at it because they have lacked real guidance from the Board. The current team play at peripheral stuff whilst neglecting the core support. Given proper roll your sleeves up, hands on support from the Board, they might be able to affect things. If they don't, we will see Attanasio bringing in some new people to achieve this. 

Get the basics right and the rest will follow. It’s not ground breaking insight but we’ve gotten it wrong for so so long. We’ve done pretty well across the board given we’ve consistently made a rod for our own backs from time to time. It blows my mind how some decisions have been reached aka BK8 or, on field, not succession planning for Skipp’s departure or drastically changing formation filling it with personnel who can’t compete. 

[hogesar 8,140]

Wait till the Attanassio's take over, where we could see even less fan engagement as they're not, at the end of the day, Norwich Fans.

Then watch them sign Webber onto a 5 year contract, publicly naming him a vital part of the future of NCFC.

It's going to be fun and games

On a serious note, the real answer is the fans need to just grow up a bit. 

[Robert N. LiM 2,548]

3 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Wait till the Attanassio's take over, where we could see even less fan engagement as they're not, at the end of the day, Norwich Fans.

or more, for the same reason. The son (name escapes me, is it Mike?) seems keen on engagement via social media

[Greavsy 2,338]

4 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

seems keen on engagement via social media

Maybe there was a role for Todd after all! 

[hogesar 8,140]

13 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

or more, for the same reason. The son (name escapes me, is it Mike?) seems keen on engagement via social media

So was McNally, but that was ultimately what cost him his job!

Thin lines?  

[Robert N. LiM 2,548]

haha, @hogesar and @Greavsy - I actually meant that when they have their feet under the table they might see this mystical reconnect as being a priority, and that Mike's engagement on social media was a sign of that, rather than that the reconnect would actually happen on social media. But yes, I love the idea of a dramatic return for Todd, largely for the reaction it would provoke on here.

[Commonsense 440]

4 hours ago, Wibble said:

I would prefer if they just got the football side of things right tbh.

Absolutely. This message board is steadily becoming a home for self righteous whingers. The sense of entitlement is at times staggering. Blame the board, Webber, the manager, the players or actually start supporting!!!

[Nexus_Canary 816]

Find a local company / butcher / whatever to supply pies and food pre game.

Considering we have a celeb chef with her name on the seal the in stadium food it's an abomination.

Last week I got a chicken  burger what only can be described as :.

2 chicken nuggets in a bap with a teenage boys accident and a full leaf of Mr tibbles the rabbits breakfast.

This is supposed to be supplied by a super cooks company.

Gordon Ramsey would have a melt down 

Edited February 14 by Nexus_Canary

[Commonsense 440]

12 minutes ago, Nexus_Canary said:

Find a local company / butcher / whatever to supply pies and food pre game.

Considering we have a celeb chef with her name on the seal the in stadium food it's an abomination.

Last week I got a chicken  burger what only can be described as :.

2 chicken nuggets in a bap with a teenage boys accident and a full leaf of Mr tibbles the rabbits breakfast.

This is supposed to be supplied by a super cooks company.

Gordon Ramsey would have a melt down 

[Commonsense 440]

15 minutes ago, Nexus_Canary said:

Find a local company / butcher / whatever to supply pies and food pre game.

Considering we have a celeb chef with her name on the seal the in stadium food it's an abomination.

Last week I got a chicken  burger what only can be described as :.

2 chicken nuggets in a bap with a teenage boys accident and a full leaf of Mr tibbles the rabbits breakfast.

This is supposed to be supplied by a super cooks company.

Gordon Ramsey would have a melt down 

QED

[Branston Pickle 3,098]

The problem for the club is that it is slightly damned if it does and damned if it doesn’t. It wants and needs to be commercially competitive to generate income, yet by the same stroke we appear to have people wanting us to forego any shirt sponsorship money, which generates a decent sum on its own.

Tbh generally speaking when we are winning very few people care much about the off field things. There were always things to moan about if you looked, but we rarely heard about them when we are going well.

Re the future, there’s a strong possibility that a lot of things will be more ‘business like’ - people claimed to be keen for change but it seems only on their terms.