Season ticket prices 65+

[Midlands Yellow 3,980]

14 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said:

Have a look at Midland's post. And I found Echinacea(?) helped. 

I thought I struggled because I am a smoker but a young lady in my street is generally healthy but is extremely unwell. But I'm sure you'll be better by 14/2. The only problem I have now is that I'm still going to bed earlier than before. 

Get the turmeric, black pepper and ginger down ya. You’ll be running half marathons within a fortnight and leaving the viagra in the medicine cupboard for the young ones. 

[FenwayFrank 2,459]

1 hour ago, ncfcstar said:

The reasons for those discounts are completely different.  A 65 year old is statistically far more likely to be able to afford their own season ticket than a 15 year old.  I'd wager they are more than likely able to afford a fully priced season ticket in comparison to anyone under the age of 30 as well.

I would guess that most 15 year olds don’t pay for their season ticket though, and  of course a 65 year old is more able to pay than a 28 year old with a mortgage and a child, but if you’re in your twenties, working and living at home then you have more disposable income than anyone else. We’ve all had to make decisions in the past about whether we can afford something, it’s coming across as a bit entitled to suggest that the younger you are, the more discount you should get. 

[SwindonCanary 455]

The ground is too small !

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29 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said:

Have a look at Midland's post. And I found Echinacea(?) helped. 

I thought I struggled because I am a smoker but a young lady in my street is generally healthy but is extremely unwell. But I'm sure you'll be better by 14/2. The only problem I have now is that I'm still going to bed earlier than before. 

If you’re going to bed earlier with the young lady in your street I fail to see the problem ( wink )

[Greavsy 2,413]

3 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said:

I would guess that most 15 year olds don’t pay for their season ticket though, and  of course a 65 year old is more able to pay than a 28 year old with a mortgage and a child, but if you’re in your twenties, working and living at home then you have more disposable income than anyone else. We’ve all had to make decisions in the past about whether we can afford something, it’s coming across as a bit entitled to suggest that the younger you are, the more discount you should get. 

I think the point you are making is everyone circumstances and priorities are different, and age whilst a factor for some, shouldn't be the determining factor.

I struggle with why pensioners get a free bus to go into city for a case/ shopping, or all over the country, when people who are struggling have to pay to get to work!

[Greavsy 2,413]

2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

The ground is too small !

It isn't sold out.......

[Greavsy 2,413]

Just now, ......and Smith must score. said:

If you’re going to bed earlier with the young lady in your street I fail to see the problem ( wink )

I confess to having thought similarly to you Smithy!

[SwindonCanary 455]

Just now, Greavsy said:

It isn't sold out.......

Try buying two or even three seats together 

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All this wailing about seat prices…….how unbecoming.

Rich b*stards like me sit in the centre blocks and don’t concern themselves with mere trifles like cost.

🎶 Spit on the peasants, below, below……🎶 😉( wink )

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6 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said:

If you’re going to bed earlier with the young lady in your street I fail to see the problem ( wink )

 

5 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

I confess to having thought similarly to you Smithy!

Why ? Have you got a young lady in your street ? ( wink )

[Greavsy 2,413]

8 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Try buying two or even three seats together 

Don't need to, I have my season ticket plus the 4 others I go with.

I dont always get tickets to the shows or gigs I want, but it doesn't mean the venue is too small......

[nutty nigel 7,531]

Again with the bus passes it all depends on circumstances. Some pensioners wouldn't get out and about without it. Others could afford taxis into the city twice a day and six times on Sundays. How do you target the buss pass where it's needed?

[Greavsy 2,413]

4 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said:

 

Why ? Have you got a young lady in your street ? ( wink )

I've not noticed, but any lady would suffice, doesnt have to be young, well within reason!

[Greavsy 2,413]

1 minute ago, nutty nigel said:

Again with the bus passes it all depends on circumstances. Some pensioners wouldn't get out and about without it. Others could afford taxis into the city twice a day and six times on Sundays. How do you target the buss pass where it's needed?

That's my point. Its a cheap (comparatively speaking) vote winning solution. 

However the free busses still need to be paid for.

Why not subsidise them all and make it cheaper for all?

[nutty nigel 7,531]

Because it wouldn't solve the problem. In fact it would make it worse because more people who didn't need it would get the subsidy.

[SwindonCanary 455]

7 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

Don't need to, I have my season ticket plus the 4 others I go with.

I dont always get tickets to the shows or gigs I want, but it doesn't mean the venue is too small......

Yet someone like me, who gave up our tickets cannot obtain them 

Edited February 1, 2023 by SwindonCanary

[Greavsy 2,413]

Just now, SwindonCanary said:

Yet someone like me, who gave up our tickets connot obtain them 

So there is the problem.

Someone gives up their tickets in can't get tickets shocker.......

What did you expect? 

[Greavsy 2,413]

3 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Because it wouldn't solve the problem. In fact it would make it worse because more people who didn't need it would get the subsidy.

But the bus costs the same to run however full it is, and my understanding is they are obliged to run them irrespective of take up. So a fuller bus won't cost any more than an empty one,  but more people benefit.

[Inch High aka Inchy.. 405]

Imagine being a season ticket holder for donkeys years and then snuffing it the week before your 65th birthday. 🙂 

P.S I'm loving this thread, best entertainment on here for a while.

[stratton canary 134]

4 hours ago, Well b back said:

I am fast approaching 65 ( 2 more seasons for me ) and I have to say I will appreciate the discount. I dread to think how much I and my parents and now my youngest son have spent on NCFC since I was 4. Every other club offers an over 65 cheap ticket, so why should I pay a subsidised rate for an away game, and full price for a home game. But don’t worry to much about club revenue as in the season I become 65 my son will no longer get an under 21 season ticket. 
When you get to 65 who knows how many more seasons you will have wether through I’ll health or dare I say death. 
Travelling from Birmingham I may if there was no reduction decide to go to away games only giving my and my sons and my grandchild money to our opposing clubs rather than NCFC. If I gave up my season ticket three others would as well.
I appreciate we had closed grounds with Covid but away from that outside the premier league it is very rare we sell out and when we do ( Leeds and Ipswich aside ) it is usually glory hunters when we near promotion.

So therefore I guess I am against your motion.

I'm with you Well,   I've been going since 1972 & people on here saying we don't sing come & stand ( or sit ) in the Snakepit on Saturday think you will change your mind. 

Too bloody true I deserve a discount for the first time next season 👍 

 

[nutty nigel 7,531]

4 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

But the bus costs the same to run however full it is, and my understanding is they are obliged to run them irrespective of take up. So a fuller bus won't cost any more than an empty one,  but more people benefit.

Because it prices out those in the greatest need. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Greavsy 2,413]

5 minutes ago, Inch High aka Inchy.. said:

Imagine being a season ticket holder for donkeys years and then snuffing it the week before your 65th birthday. 🙂

Some would insist on the discount passing to their children!

[Greavsy 2,413]

2 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Because it prices out those in the greatest need. 

 

 

 

 

 

How can you be priced out of something that is free at point of sale as it currently is?

Whats your suggestion NN?

Edited February 1, 2023 by Greavsy

[nutty nigel 7,531]

4 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

How can you be priced out of something that is free at point of sale?

Because the subsidy doesn't stretch that far. If you're talking about making busses free for everyone then where will you make the cuts to pay for it.

Edited February 1, 2023 by nutty nigel

[Greavsy 2,413]

Just now, nutty nigel said:

Because the subsidy doesn't stretch that far. If you're talking about making busses free for everyone then whet we will you make the cuts to pay for it.

We are already paying for it, thats the point!

[nutty nigel 7,531]

We are already paying for the current subsidy is the point.

[Greavsy 2,413]

1 minute ago, nutty nigel said:

We are already paying for the current subsidy is the point.

So what do propose NN, to make sure the needy get it?

Who are the needy?  the old , disabled,  poor, those on certain benefits?

 

[nutty nigel 7,531]

5 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

So what do propose NN, to make sure the needy get it?

Who are the needy?  the old , disabled,  poor, those on certain benefits?

 

I don't propose anything. I think it works quite well as it is. I think there's a very small percentage of the pensioners entitled to a bus that use it regularly. And the ones who maybe don't need it are far outweighed by those who benefit from being able to get out and about amongst people. The bus pass is vital for the mental health of many of the least well off.

[ncfcstar 291]

54 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said:

I would guess that most 15 year olds don’t pay for their season ticket though, and  of course a 65 year old is more able to pay than a 28 year old with a mortgage and a child, but if you’re in your twenties, working and living at home then you have more disposable income than anyone else. We’ve all had to make decisions in the past about whether we can afford something, it’s coming across as a bit entitled to suggest that the younger you are, the more discount you should get. 

I didn't say they should have more of a discount, I questioned why a 65 year old should have a discount when a under 30 doesn't.

I don't really want to get into the debate, but the mere fact that you assume someone in their twenties is still living at home points to all the problems the older generation have left younger people to pick up whilst they've benefited from subsidies and handouts that someone under the age of 40 today could only dream of obtaining.  I bet not many of those benefiting from the 65+ discount were still 'living at home' when they were in their twenties, nor were they desperately trying to save tens of thousands of pounds for the privilege of having a mortgage.

[FenwayFrank 2,459]

30 minutes ago, Inch High aka Inchy.. said:

Imagine being a season ticket holder for donkeys years and then snuffing it the week before your 65th birthday.

I can hear this being sung by Alanis Morrisett