nutty nigel 7,509 Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said: Funny but that doesn't seem to happen round my way Nutty. Before people reached bus pass age they'd always drive into town as they didn't want to mix with the great unwashed but now it's free the cars never seem to come out of the garages. Glad to hear it. There's great joy to be found on the buses and the great unwashed are probably happy with the extra company🙃 Edited February 1, 2023 by nutty nigel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,456 Posted February 1, 2023 Free prescriptions when you get to 60 ( winky face ) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted February 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Greavsy said: I dont get the point, ok they aren't sent out automatically, and need to be applied for, but the only criteria is how old you are, so its not means tested as such. Fair play if there is anyone who is entitled but hasn't claimed theirs as they don't need to, although doubt there are many, and it wouldn't change the situation as below. The busses have to run irrespective of take up. So the subsidy is used irrespective of numbers on the bus. Ie its paid for even if no benefit is achieved. The disability concession you brought into the discussion, keep up. What disability concessions? Or do you mean the free bus passes the disabled get. You brought it up btw. The buses run regardless but if 10% are free travellers 90% are paying. If you give everyone free travel that 90% income is lost. Where would you find the money for such a subsidy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,722 Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, essex canary said: Isn't the main problem here that David McNally removed concessionary prices from certain areas of the ground and that they have never been restored plus at the young peoples end we are less generous than some other Clubs? Another component element of being a self-funded Club. The loyal supporters pay more. McNally removed concessions for centre block seats in both the City Stand and South Stand as he described them as the best seats in the house like at theatres where you pay a premium price for such seats. Can't really argue with that or maybe you can ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,334 Posted February 1, 2023 6 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: 3 years ago I told my neighbour that the seat next to mine was available. He bought it and paid £170 less than me. He had never been to Carrow Road in his life and had previously been a Chelsea season ticket holder before retiring here. And by the way, he's got more money than he knows what to do with. Elementary error there and now you're stewing about it. If I'd known my neighbour was a season ticket holder at that place I'd have kept shtoom. It's also means that a genuine Norwich fan didn't get that seat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted February 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said: Free prescriptions when you get to 60 ( winky face ) Don't the jocks and the Welsh get them at any age? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted February 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: What disability concessions? Or do you mean the free bus passes the disabled get. You brought it up btw. The buses run regardless but if 10% are free travellers 90% are paying. If you give everyone free travel that 90% income is lost. Where would you find the money for such a subsidy? You brought up the disability concessions. I wasn't aware of them so I can't comment. Not sure how I can bring up something I don't know of their existence. Yes that works for your example. But not for the off peak busses than run empty of any passenger. (my understanding is the pensioner pass isn't valid on peak) That was the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,334 Posted February 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said: Free prescriptions when you get to 60 ( winky face ) Let's really put the boot in and mention the free eye and hearing tests. Oh, nearly forgot the winter fuel allowance. Full speed ahead on the gravy train...woo....woo ( wink ) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Apples 1,317 Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Greavsy said: Don't the jocks and the Welsh get them at any age? In Scotland prescriptions free for all, and free bus passes for ages 5 to 22 and over 60 for nearly all journeys. 🥳 Apples 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,334 Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Greavsy said: You brought up the disability concessions. I wasn't aware of them so I can't comment. Not sure how I can bring up something I don't know of their existence. Yes that works for your example. But not for the off peak busses than run empty of any passenger. (my understanding is the pensioner pass isn't valid on peak) That was the point. Free concessions aren't valid before 9.30 but are all day after that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr Apples said: In Scotland prescriptions free for all, and free bus passes for ages 5 to 22 and over 60 for nearly all journeys. 🥳 Apples So with their population being less than England who pays for those? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,345 Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, Greavsy said: So with their population being less than England who pays for those? Wee Jimmy Krankie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, ricardo said: Wee Jimmy Krankie fandabbydozy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,385 Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Greavsy said: So with their population being less than England who pays for those? That bloody Barnett formula again. Keeps the accountants busy ... 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, shefcanary said: That bloody Barnett formula again. Keeps the accountants busy ... 😉 is that like XG? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted February 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Greavsy said: You brought up the disability concessions. I wasn't aware of them so I can't comment. Not sure how I can bring up something I don't know of their existence. Yes that works for your example. But not for the off peak busses than run empty of any passenger. (my understanding is the pensioner pass isn't valid on peak) That was the point. You not being aware of them is what brought them up. It was the crass comment about "only the elderly who get mental health issues" So you want all travel free or just off peak travel? What is your point? Whichever way it would cost more money so what would you cut to find that money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,385 Posted February 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Greavsy said: is that like XG? For politicians yes! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted February 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: You not being aware of them is what brought them up. It was the crass comment about "only the elderly who get mental health issues" So you want all travel free or just off peak travel? What is your point? Whichever way it would cost more money so what would you cut to find that money? How can I possibly bring up something im not aware of? The crass comment was actually a question, (apologies for missing the ? off) shame you've not reflected the rest of that post too where i suggest the cause rather than the symptom is targeted. I'll link it here for ease. Anyways if you're going to be deliberately obtuse ill leave you be. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Apples 1,317 Posted February 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, Greavsy said: So with their population being less than England who pays for those? Hmmm dunno, I'm just an economic migrant milking the system. 🤔🤷♂️🤣 Apples 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 236 Posted February 1, 2023 For a self funding club freezing prices or giving discounts to coffin dodgers is ridiculous they should be striving to maximise revenue per seat, move the demographic of the club supporters more upmarket hopefully when the American takes over we will have a much more sensible approach to revenue generation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,385 Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bert said: hopefully when the American takes over we will have a much more sensible approach to revenue generation I'm sure this particular strategy was agreed by Attanasio - if not problems at Board level are worse than I thought! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,280 Posted February 1, 2023 As my late Father also said...."What you've never had, you'll never miss."...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted February 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said: Free concessions aren't valid before 9.30 but are all day after that. How would you like a 'Chatty Bus' Smiffy? I remember before the pandemic such a scheme being launched in Norwich but I'm not sure it's been a thing since Covid struck. Great idea though... https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/20762686.chatty-bus-launches-bring-people-together-combat-loneliness/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: As my late Father also said...."What you've never had, you'll never miss."...... Like a billionaire benefactor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,280 Posted February 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: Like a billionaire benefactor? Whatever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted February 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: As my late Father also said...."What you've never had, you'll never miss."...... Did he also say "buy cheap, buy twice"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,280 Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, Greavsy said: Did he also say "buy cheap, buy twice"? Yup.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,345 Posted February 1, 2023 56 minutes ago, shefcanary said: That bloody Barnett formula again. Keeps the accountants busy ... 😉 I used to think it was some kind of hair treatment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,456 Posted February 1, 2023 28 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: As my late Father also said...."What you've never had, you'll never miss."...... Where was he looking at the time ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,280 Posted February 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said: Where was he looking at the time ? My Mum....I think?.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
