Petriix 2,834 Posted January 14, 2023 Lots of posts recently have questioned the quality of the squad. I've been pretty critical of the recruitment, but I've repeatedly highlighted that most of our last Championship winning team are still here. What we're seeing today is the players being freed to express themselves. The contrast with Smith's incoherent system is night and day. Is anyone going to come out and claim that Smith was a decent manager who did his best with a poor squad? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,016 Posted January 14, 2023 Agreed in that I dont think our squad is as bad as it was made out to be. Smith was the key issue here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,283 Posted January 14, 2023 One game doesn’t make us premiership quality, but what a change in intensity, organisation and attitude. Certainly looking forward to seeing highlights. As I always said Smith was just to beige, no great enthusiasm nor any idea on organising a team. Different attitude in all areas. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By Hook or Ian crook 917 Posted January 14, 2023 One swallow doesn’t make a summer but I am more on your side of the argument than the other. Give it time though, best to cast judgement on the basis of more evidence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channon’s Windmill 326 Posted January 14, 2023 It’s one game, start doing this regularly, especially at Carrow Road, then we can re-access. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,675 Posted January 14, 2023 Buh the prophet does it again. Praise him 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,618 Posted January 14, 2023 Best 90 minutes in over a year if everyone is totally honest. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,241 Posted January 14, 2023 boing boing boing boing NEW MANAGER BOUNCE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,604 Posted January 14, 2023 52 minutes ago, Petriix said: Lots of posts recently have questioned the quality of the squad. I've been pretty critical of the recruitment, but I've repeatedly highlighted that most of our last Championship winning team are still here. What we're seeing today is the players being freed to express themselves. The contrast with Smith's incoherent system is night and day. Is anyone going to come out and claim that Smith was a decent manager who did his best with a poor squad? The issue the vast majority of Norwich sides have had is that they usually need to achieve more than the sum of their parts. It relies heavily upon team spirit, confidence and unity with the fans. They have not been playing well as a team, in having the ball or without it. You do those well, and the team effort can produce more. There is no doubt these players are strong for this league, but the question has been about whether they can deliver consistently. That question remains at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,423 Posted January 14, 2023 It’s far from our most stellar squad ever, and there’s plenty of squad related clouds on the horizon with contracts and whatnot, but Dean Smith is the worst Norwich manager in living memory. Absolutely horrendous. It’s showed very much today. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,735 Posted January 14, 2023 Lets reserve judgememt until we play one of the better teams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,618 Posted January 14, 2023 Imagine if our summer signings actually turned out to be quality? Sara really does have the physical attributes and decent vision - he could be a big big player if he continues to progress. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 706 Posted January 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, hogesar said: Best 90 minutes in over a year if everyone is totally honest. Absolutely. It is the best 90 minutes since Farke was sacked 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwearyCanary 1,179 Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Petriix said: Lots of posts recently have questioned the quality of the squad. I've been pretty critical of the recruitment, but I've repeatedly highlighted that most of our last Championship winning team are still here. What we're seeing today is the players being freed to express themselves. The contrast with Smith's incoherent system is night and day. Is anyone going to come out and claim that Smith was a decent manager who did his best with a poor squad? Cue: @littleyellowbirdie 😘 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By Hook or Ian crook 917 Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, hogesar said: Imagine if our summer signings actually turned out to be quality? Sara really does have the physical attributes and decent vision - he could be a big big player if he continues to progress. Let’s wait and see how they both get on under someone who seems a bit more switched on than smith was. We can judge them more I feel after 3-4 months under Wagner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
repman 634 Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, hogesar said: Imagine if our summer signings actually turned out to be quality? Sara really does have the physical attributes and decent vision - he could be a big big player if he continues to progress. I think he's been pretty good for a while now, it's funny that when he joined all the chatter was that he was signed to add a goal threat from midfield and maybe not to expect too much from him on the ball. I thought today he looked like a complete midfielder. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By Hook or Ian crook 917 Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, SwearyCanary said: Cue: @littleyellowbirdie 😘 If you say his name 3 times rumour is Dean smith magically appears 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,241 Posted January 14, 2023 to answer more seriously, this group of players should be good enough to finish in the top six of this league this season. They clearly weren't going to under Smith, which was why his sacking was correct. Hopefully this isn't just new manager bounce and the tune that Wagner clearly got out of them today can last as long as his namesake's. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,759 Posted January 14, 2023 Time for a complete refresh with all the players, it's safe to say it's unfair to comment on any of their ability whilst Smith was here, Dowell proof of that today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted January 14, 2023 Good today, but the mistakes and poor decision making is still in evidence at times. Krul is still a liability passing the ball out, Aarons doesn't deliver enough good crosses, Sargent still looks clumsy trying to control the ball.....but what was better was the speed and freedom with which the players played - and that will help those players to find their best form. Great start though and very promising! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,241 Posted January 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, repman said: I think he's been pretty good for a while now, it's funny that when he joined all the chatter was that he was signed to add a goal threat from midfield and maybe not to expect too much from him on the ball. I thought today he looked like a complete midfielder. One of the things I did like about Smith was that he eased Sara in very gently and didn't expect too much of him too soon. From that perspective, it's a shame that, if Sara does kick on, it won't benefit Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 14, 2023 One game at a time. Today was not perfect but absolutely brilliant to watch and exciting seeing the goals going in. The tactics and style were spot on. And that is one game under the belt. I am hopeful that we will see even more improvement at Coventry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwearyCanary 1,179 Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, keelansgrandad said: One game at a time. Today was not perfect but absolutely brilliant to watch and exciting seeing the goals going in. The tactics and style were spot on. And that is one game under the belt. I am hopeful that we will see even more improvement at Coventry. Brilliant to watch = full blooded support with a team so much easier to get behind. Whether that’s with an emphatic win or a 0-1 defeat to Blackburn in the cup it’s so so SO much more than smith ever looked like providing. OT f***ing BC 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 854 Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Petriix said: Lots of posts recently have questioned the quality of the squad. I've been pretty critical of the recruitment, but I've repeatedly highlighted that most of our last Championship winning team are still here. What we're seeing today is the players being freed to express themselves. The contrast with Smith's incoherent system is night and day. Is anyone going to come out and claim that Smith was a decent manager who did his best with a poor squad? Good enough for what? They are good enough for the Championship, there are very few good enough to step up. One result against an out of form team doesn’t change that! Wagner can only do so much and he needs time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mengo 821 Posted January 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, hogesar said: Imagine if our summer signings actually turned out to be quality? Sara really does have the physical attributes and decent vision - he could be a big big player if he continues to progress. Nice to hear this Hoggy. Because I have been so, so pissed off with some of the things said about him. I watched this guy many many times in Brazil 🇧🇷 and with the correct attributes , you know what I mean. He was bound to come good. He is a quality player and now hopefully he's in the right ✋️ 👐 hands. Cmon Gabi , looking like yer old self. Good to see. Start enjoying 😉. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,241 Posted January 14, 2023 What was the formation in the end today? I couldn't work it out from the team sheet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted January 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: One game at a time. Today was not perfect but absolutely brilliant to watch and exciting seeing the goals going in. The tactics and style were spot on. And that is one game under the belt. I am hopeful that we will see even more improvement at Coventry. We're two points off 6th with 39 points. We only picked up 3 today so if the players are actually good enough we should comfortably make the play offs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mengo said: Nice to hear this Hoggy. Because I have been so, so pissed off with some of the things said about him. I watched this guy many many times in Brazil 🇧🇷 and with the correct attributes , you know what I mean. He was bound to come good. He is a quality player and now hopefully he's in the right ✋️ 👐 hands. Cmon Gabi , looking like yer old self. Good to see. Start enjoying 😉. You know I agree Mengo. I don't see the negative performances others do. He is improving but was never that bad. Him and Nunez have both done well considering the difference if intensity they found in the Championship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,759 Posted January 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said: What was the formation in the end today? I couldn't work it out from the team sheet. 4-2-3-1, narrow 3 with overlapping full backs. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 436 Posted January 14, 2023 I always maintained this squad of players was more than good enough to get out of this division! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites