Todd Cantwell to Rangers

[wcorkcanary 3,797]

10 hours ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

LYB is Todd Cantwell and I claim my £10 

LYB is like one of those women who starts a relationship with a death row inmate.

Any sane human would know what they are doing  is futile.  

[......and Smith must score. 915]

 

21 hours ago, Capt. Pants said:

The frustration for me is as well as losing a very good player, all we've done is move him off the wage bill. We should have been looking at additional £m's to add to the transfer pot. Instead they just fell off the side of the conveyor belt.

Yes, it is a pity we haven’t gained some extra money from this move but he was free in the first place.

Unlike some of those waste-of-spaces like Naismith, Drmic, Rashica, etc, etc

[KiwiScot 957]

Been looking at what the excited Rangers fans have been posting and they made a thread about his shoes. Best comments

"Brothel Creepers"

"Dereham is the Paris of the United Kingdom when it comes to fashion. Todd was wearing Alice bands whilst Jack Grealish was still kicking around in the Under 12s.This summer you are going to see kids in £645 trainers with long blonde hair held out of their eyes with an alice band."

"Red Foot of Ulster"

 

Edited January 25 by KiwiScot

[Yellow Fever 2,628]

Can we forget about Cantwell now?

It seems some on here (or the parallel Cantwell thread) are fixated on him - like a jilted lover unable to move on.

[norfolkngood 505]

1 hour ago, KiwiScot said:

Been looking at what the excited Rangers fans have been posting and they made a thread about his shoes. Best comments

"Brothel Creepers"

"Dereham is the Paris of the United Kingdom when it comes to fashion. Todd was wearing Alice bands whilst Jack Grealish was still kicking around in the Under 12s.This summer you are going to see kids in £645 trainers with long blonde hair held out of their eyes with an alice band."

"Red Foot of Ulster"

 

They are not impressed by his Fashion 

Did he have a Spiderman outfit on underneath his clothes?

Does he have verrucas?

Cancel the contract ffs

Hope to fck he can play if he insists on dressing like that

My dad would have slapped me about if I turned up to sign for Rangers in a pair of joggies never mind what he has on his feet.

With these belters, the Alice band, & the Tik Tok dancing I can't take much more tomfoolery...

 

i hope he plays well up there if not he will be known more about his fashion than his football 

He has Talent and i hope he makes it up in Glasgow but that is one goldfish bowl of a place with half the city hating you for a start  

 

[Thirsty Lizard 2,623]

Not Todd's fault he's been photoshopped of course.................(unless he spent his last week at Norwich in the gym with John Rowe  ).

Edited January 25 by Thirsty Lizard

[cambridgeshire canary 4,733]

3 hours ago, KiwiScot said:

Been looking at what the excited Rangers fans have been posting and they made a thread about his shoes. Best comments

"Brothel Creepers"

"Dereham is the Paris of the United Kingdom when it comes to fashion. Todd was wearing Alice bands whilst Jack Grealish was still kicking around in the Under 12s.This summer you are going to see kids in £645 trainers with long blonde hair held out of their eyes with an alice band."

"Red Foot of Ulster"

 

And Cantwell says that he thinks the Norwich crowd didn't support him enough and less than 24 hours in to his new club and rangers fans are already mocking him and teasing him.

 

This won't end well..

Edited January 25 by cambridgeshire canary

[Midlands Yellow 2,727]

3 hours ago, KiwiScot said:

Been looking at what the excited Rangers fans have been posting and they made a thread about his shoes. Best comments

"Brothel Creepers"

"Dereham is the Paris of the United Kingdom when it comes to fashion. Todd was wearing Alice bands whilst Jack Grealish was still kicking around in the Under 12s.This summer you are going to see kids in £645 trainers with long blonde hair held out of their eyes with an alice band."

"Red Foot of Ulster"

 

Which Rangers site are those beauties from? 

[Graham Paddons Beard 1,735]

Celtic fans are going to love him. 

[KiwiScot 957]

2 hours ago, Graham Paddons Beard said:

Celtic fans are going to love him. 

There was a clip on the rangers forum of us playing Celtic and Todd beating 2 men. Of course we lost that game.

[Capt. Pants 2,570]

I've just read a very nice message from Jordan Hugill.

Did Todd have anything nice to say about us in parting?

[Satriales 214]

21 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

I've just read a very nice message from Jordan Hugill.

Did Todd have anything nice to say about us in parting?

He posted a 1m30s video of his time at Norwich. No words, but assume that was his thanks to the club.

[KiwiScot 957]

Local welcome wagon and her dungeon has been wheeled out for Todd.

Edited January 25 by KiwiScot

[Midlands Yellow 2,727]

2 hours ago, KiwiScot said:

Local welcome wagon and her dungeon has been wheeled out for Todd.

Is that the Rangers 3rd kit? 

[lake district canary 3,742]

Todd has the fresh start he wants, his best answer to any fan issues, is to let his football do the talking. That has always been the case, but he is at a level of football and situation that should suit him - in a strong team, often playing matches against weaker opponents with a smattering of bigger matches - and the opportunity to play in Europe too. Just needs to get out there and play as he knows and we know he can.

[norfolkngood 505]

10 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Todd has the fresh start he wants, his best answer to any fan issues, is to let his football do the talking. That has always been the case, but he is at a level of football and situation that should suit him - in a strong team, often playing matches against weaker opponents with a smattering of bigger matches - and the opportunity to play in Europe too. Just needs to get out there and play as he knows and we know he can.

i agree Lakey

just seems Todd brings that Attention to himself 

Some people like that but i think Todd is to fragile to deal with the Negative stuff 

people can look and dress how they want it is part of the person and if they want to dress like that fair enough 

but i think Todd would not get as much Attention or comments if he say shaved his hair and had a smart clothes on say a Jacket and shoes on 

what he wears has Nothing to do with how he plays or what talent he has at all 

but it leads to people having a opinion of him and is he a flash harry is he more worried about image than his football before he even kicks a ball 

Rangers is totally different his red shoes have had comments about the red in the Ulster flag ( thats crazy ) on the Rangers forum thats how careful you have to be there about upseting the fanbase it is a crazy passionate place and you will be under the microscope 

[lake district canary 3,742]

34 minutes ago, norfolkngood said:

what he wears has Nothing to do with how he plays or what talent he has at all 

but it leads to people having a opinion of him and is he a flash harry is he more worried about image than his football before he even kicks a ball 

 

Yes, it can be seen like that. At the start of the the match against West Ham where we were relegated, watching the players as they came out of the tunnel, they were all looking serious, all looked like they meant business - and there was Todd with a fancy new braided hairstyle. My reaction was annoyance at him apparently spending so much time and thought on his appearance, when all that should have been on his mind was the football. It was an incongruous image.

I understood a bit more afterwards, when it was explained that maybe it was such an important match that he went to a special effort to get ready with a new hairstyle.....but then that is at odds with a lot of us perhaps 40s and over men, who maybe can't really relate to that. Then there was that image at the end.......sitting in the centre circle all on his own.....because he was distraught he said.....but that again was an image difficult to forget. Most of us understand it - he is young, trend setting, sees himself as having many follwowers, but with that comes the opposite - those that will see him as someone they can't relate to. 

So is it image or substance....or both?

In football and at Rangers he will get away with his image only if he is good on the pitch.

Edited January 26 by lake district canary

[norfolkngood 505]

32 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

 

So is it image or substance....or both?

In football and at Rangers he will get away with his image only if he is good on the pitch.

That was the point 

Todd has to be good because of his image 

that putting pressure on himself ( maybe he needs it ) before he even starts playing football ,

you get players who  blend in and ones that stand out for image ,

Todd is one of those instead of a Hanley , Gunn , Aarons ,Pukki or most of our squad to be honest ,

Nothing wrong with having a stand out Image but like you said you have to be very good 

[Petriix 2,028]

It's a sad indictment of football supporters (and society in general) that any kind of individualism, particularly in appearance, is considered fair game for scrutiny and, therefore, abuse. What you call 'standing out' is simply not doing the thing that everyone else does and shaving your hair off. Discriminating against someone for their hair is not particularly different to focusing on other physical features like skin colour (although it's important to acknowledge that hairism hasn't led to such a significant amount of oppression and violence).

Ultimately people are getting far too fixated on image and their perception of how a footballer is supposed to look. It's a highly destructive attitude. The majority of us did not have to grow up under anywhere near the level of scrutiny that today's young people experience. What you might call attention seeking is actually just the normal expectation on someone of that generation: to regularly publish images of themselves on social media. It's incredibly hard for them to navigate, especially if they have any deviation from neurotypical.

This whole Cantwell saga has been turned into a circus by people who love seeing drama. I imagine it's actually far more innocuous than people think. Just a young player getting a bit of bad advice, not knowing how to fit into a changed system which no longer suited [his] strengths and losing confidence. Add in a falling out with the boss, some mental health struggles and a generally negative environment around the club and it's totally understandable that he wanted to move on.

It's pretty abhorrent that people are still scrutinising his appearance after he's left, some outwardly willing fans at his new club to pick up the bullying where we left off. Those doing so need to have a long think about the sort of world they're creating. Do you really want everyone to look and act the same for fear of going against the grain?

Cantwell was an excellent player for Norwich. We probably didn't see the best of him and things probably could have been handled better from all sides. I hope that he finds success and fulfillment at his new club.

Edited January 26 by Petriix

[Robert N. LiM 1,724]

18 minutes ago, Petriix said:

It's a sad indictment of football supporters (and society in general) that any kind of individualism, particularly in appearance, is considered fair game for scrutiny and, therefore, abuse. What you call 'standing out' is simply not doing the thing that everyone else does and shaving your hair off. Discriminating against someone for their hair is not particularly different to focusing on other physical features like skin colour (although it's important to acknowledge that hairism hasn't led to such a significant amount of oppression and violence).

Ultimately people are getting far too fixated on image and their perception of how a footballer is supposed to look. It's a highly destructive attitude. The majority of us did not have to grow up under anywhere near the level of scrutiny that today's young people experience. What you might call attention seeking is actually just the normal expectation on someone of that generation: to regularly publish images of themselves on social media. It's incredibly hard for them to navigate, especially if they have any deviation from neurotypical.

This whole Cantwell saga has been turned into a circus by people who love seeing drama. I imagine it's actually far more innocuous than people think. Just a young player getting a bit of bad advice, not knowing how to fit into a changed system which no longer suited hs strengths and losing confidence. Add in a falling out with the boss, some mental health struggles and a generally negative environment around the club and it's totally understandable that he wanted to move on.

It's pretty abhorrent that people are still scrutinising his appearance after he's left, some outwardly willing fans at his new club to pick up the bullying where we left off. Those doing so need to have a long think about the sort of world they're creating. Do you really want everyone to look and act the same for fear of going against the grain?

Cantwell was an excellent player for Norwich. We probably didn't see the best of him and things probably could have been handled better from all sides. I hope that he finds success and fulfillment at his new club.

Really well said

 

[Danke bitte 674]

22 minutes ago, Petriix said:

It's a sad indictment of football supporters (and society in general) that any kind of individualism, particularly in appearance, is considered fair game for scrutiny and, therefore, abuse. What you call 'standing out' is simply not doing the thing that everyone else does and shaving your hair off. Discriminating against someone for their hair is not particularly different to focusing on other physical features like skin colour (although it's important to acknowledge that hairism hasn't led to such a significant amount of oppression and violence).

Ultimately people are getting far too fixated on image and their perception of how a footballer is supposed to look. It's a highly destructive attitude. The majority of us did not have to grow up under anywhere near the level of scrutiny that today's young people experience. What you might call attention seeking is actually just the normal expectation on someone of that generation: to regularly publish images of themselves on social media. It's incredibly hard for them to navigate, especially if they have any deviation from neurotypical.

This whole Cantwell saga has been turned into a circus by people who love seeing drama. I imagine it's actually far more innocuous than people think. Just a young player getting a bit of bad advice, not knowing how to fit into a changed system which no longer suited hs strengths and losing confidence. Add in a falling out with the boss, some mental health struggles and a generally negative environment around the club and it's totally understandable that he wanted to move on.

It's pretty abhorrent that people are still scrutinising his appearance after he's left, some outwardly willing fans at his new club to pick up the bullying where we left off. Those doing so need to have a long think about the sort of world they're creating. Do you really want everyone to look and act the same for fear of going against the grain?

Cantwell was an excellent player for Norwich. We probably didn't see the best of him and things probably could have been handled better from all sides. I hope that he finds success and fulfillment at his new club.

See Jacob and Josh Murphy too. I think one of them mentioned in the press they were fed up with the BS they received whilst at Norwich who contributed to them leaving. Can’t remember which twin said it. But yes, you’re quite right, people love to chastise and berate and drama seek. Probably because they’re unsatisfied in their own lives. 

[Robert N. LiM 1,724]

On 24/01/2023 at 11:35, shefcanary said:

• isolated comments at Carrow Road from the crowd affected him, he feels the Norwich crowd was not as supportive as it could be, individual comments weren't drowned out by the general hubbub which he feels could be a benefit of playing at Ibrox.

Since @cambridgeshire canaryhas repeated this interpretation as if it were fact, I think it's only fair to say that it doesn't seem to me a fair reading of Cantwell's words. He said:

"while I am not used to that size of stadium being on my side – as I’ve only ever played away from home in stadiums like that – to have it on my side I think will be really powerful."

I think all he meant was that when he's played at stadiums the size of Ibrox, he's been on the away team. He's looking forward to having such big crowds behind him. He doesn't suggest there that the CR crowd were not behind him, just that it isn't as big a ground.

Edited January 26 by Robert N. LiM
typo

[TheDarkKnight 224]

54 minutes ago, Petriix said:

It's a sad indictment of football supporters (and society in general) that any kind of individualism, particularly in appearance, is considered fair game for scrutiny and, therefore, abuse. What you call 'standing out' is simply not doing the thing that everyone else does and shaving your hair off. Discriminating against someone for their hair is not particularly different to focusing on other physical features like skin colour (although it's important to acknowledge that hairism hasn't led to such a significant amount of oppression and violence).

Ultimately people are getting far too fixated on image and their perception of how a footballer is supposed to look. It's a highly destructive attitude. The majority of us did not have to grow up under anywhere near the level of scrutiny that today's young people experience. What you might call attention seeking is actually just the normal expectation on someone of that generation: to regularly publish images of themselves on social media. It's incredibly hard for them to navigate, especially if they have any deviation from neurotypical.

This whole Cantwell saga has been turned into a circus by people who love seeing drama. I imagine it's actually far more innocuous than people think. Just a young player getting a bit of bad advice, not knowing how to fit into a changed system which no longer suited [his] strengths and losing confidence. Add in a falling out with the boss, some mental health struggles and a generally negative environment around the club and it's totally understandable that he wanted to move on.

It's pretty abhorrent that people are still scrutinising his appearance after he's left, some outwardly willing fans at his new club to pick up the bullying where we left off. Those doing so need to have a long think about the sort of world they're creating. Do you really want everyone to look and act the same for fear of going against the grain?

Cantwell was an excellent player for Norwich. We probably didn't see the best of him and things probably could have been handled better from all sides. I hope that he finds success and fulfillment at his new club.

Very well put.

Mass hysteria and gang culture will be a thing as long as human beings are on this world.

It used to be worse, though, back then it was the Salem Witch trials, etc, these days it's more about bored people on the net giving it large, knowing that there is thousands of miles (as well as anonymity) to protect them.

Suppose that's human evolution.

Mass hysteria and gang culture are easily roles to settle in to. You just join the crowd and follow.

Treading your own path and defying convention and staying true to your own personality and your own principals takes courage.

No one should be singled out for dressing different, acting different and basically defying convention solely by being themselves.

Tolerance and respect are commodities that are in short supply and it's only been magnified by social media.

Edited January 26 by TheDarkKnight

[Google Bot 1,748]

8 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said:

Tolerance and respect are commodities that are in short supply and it's only been magnified by social media.

In my experience the majority I meet online or offline are tolerant, respectful people.  I guess it depends on individuals, but when you strip back all the ****, the world is a lovely place and there's some really amazing, caring people out there. 

Too many people allow themselves to be weighed down by nonsense is half the problem with social media, not helped by news outlets desperate for clicks. 

Make all that <5% of your life, not 80+%.

[Mr Angry 1,248]

1 hour ago, Petriix said:

It's a sad indictment of football supporters (and society in general) that any kind of individualism, particularly in appearance, is considered fair game for scrutiny and, therefore, abuse. What you call 'standing out' is simply not doing the thing that everyone else does and shaving your hair off. Discriminating against someone for their hair is not particularly different to focusing on other physical features like skin colour (although it's important to acknowledge that hairism hasn't led to such a significant amount of oppression and violence).

Ultimately people are getting far too fixated on image and their perception of how a footballer is supposed to look. It's a highly destructive attitude. The majority of us did not have to grow up under anywhere near the level of scrutiny that today's young people experience. What you might call attention seeking is actually just the normal expectation on someone of that generation: to regularly publish images of themselves on social media. It's incredibly hard for them to navigate, especially if they have any deviation from neurotypical.

This whole Cantwell saga has been turned into a circus by people who love seeing drama. I imagine it's actually far more innocuous than people think. Just a young player getting a bit of bad advice, not knowing how to fit into a changed system which no longer suited [his] strengths and losing confidence. Add in a falling out with the boss, some mental health struggles and a generally negative environment around the club and it's totally understandable that he wanted to move on.

It's pretty abhorrent that people are still scrutinising his appearance after he's left, some outwardly willing fans at his new club to pick up the bullying where we left off. Those doing so need to have a long think about the sort of world they're creating. Do you really want everyone to look and act the same for fear of going against the grain?

Cantwell was an excellent player for Norwich. We probably didn't see the best of him and things probably could have been handled better from all sides. I hope that he finds success and fulfillment at his new club.

Excellent post. I like Todd precisely because he does stand out, because that is my personality too.

[shefcanary 1,247]

55 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

He doesn't suggest there that the CR crowd were not behind him, just that it isn't as big a ground.

Another vote for the expansion of Carrow road. Nice parting gift Todd, thanks.  

[......and Smith must score. 915]

On 25/01/2023 at 13:16, Midlands Yellow said:

Which Rangers site are those beauties from? 

The Bear Pit Follow Follow.com

They’re on the Welcome Todd Cantwell thread which is on Page 2 of The Bear Pit ( or it was the last time I looked ) and Cantwell’s shoes thread on Page 1.

These ? shoes ? apparently come in at a mere £650 a pop. Very reasonable…..

Edited January 26 by ......and Smith must score.

[NorthCarolinaYellow 163]

4 hours ago, Petriix said:

It's a sad indictment of football supporters (and society in general) that any kind of individualism, particularly in appearance, is considered fair game for scrutiny and, therefore, abuse. What you call 'standing out' is simply not doing the thing that everyone else does and shaving your hair off. Discriminating against someone for their hair is not particularly different to focusing on other physical features like skin colour (although it's important to acknowledge that hairism hasn't led to such a significant amount of oppression and violence).

Ultimately people are getting far too fixated on image and their perception of how a footballer is supposed to look. It's a highly destructive attitude. The majority of us did not have to grow up under anywhere near the level of scrutiny that today's young people experience. What you might call attention seeking is actually just the normal expectation on someone of that generation: to regularly publish images of themselves on social media. It's incredibly hard for them to navigate, especially if they have any deviation from neurotypical.

This whole Cantwell saga has been turned into a circus by people who love seeing drama. I imagine it's actually far more innocuous than people think. Just a young player getting a bit of bad advice, not knowing how to fit into a changed system which no longer suited [his] strengths and losing confidence. Add in a falling out with the boss, some mental health struggles and a generally negative environment around the club and it's totally understandable that he wanted to move on.

It's pretty abhorrent that people are still scrutinising his appearance after he's left, some outwardly willing fans at his new club to pick up the bullying where we left off. Those doing so need to have a long think about the sort of world they're creating. Do you really want everyone to look and act the same for fear of going against the grain?

Cantwell was an excellent player for Norwich. We probably didn't see the best of him and things probably could have been handled better from all sides. I hope that he finds success and fulfillment at his new club.

 

This is mostly nonsense in my opinion.

 

Todd Cantwell is oppressed now? Come on. HE made a large part of his brand about his appearance, not supporters. HE was/is overly fixated on his image. HE chose to publish his life on social media. HE created drama.

 

Todd Cantwell was not an excellent player for Norwich. He had excellent moments, but was very spotty and clearly had off-the-pitch issues. The contrast between his high valuation of himself and his questionable value as a footballer is 100% worthy of critique and discussion. If he'd actually performed like he should have, and like he stated he would have, nobody would have given a sh*t about his hair or Instagram posts. He owns his brand for better or worse. Just watch as his spell in Glashow becomes another circus in short while ...

[NorthCarolinaYellow 163]

I also want to say that if this conversation/thread now sidetracks into an extended discussion of how f*cking terrible that little f*cker Billy Gilmour was I am ALL IN for another 27 pages!

[Samwam27 316]

WTF is this thread still going. Cantwell has finally gone. I no longer care, and I certainly don't give a f*ck about Gilmour as he's long gone and forgotten (one of our worst signings!)

Seriously who cares now?