Billy Gilmour and a tweet that aged well. Not.

[TheDarkKnight 277]

Just now, kirku said:

Mate, you posted an excruciatingly stupid statement about playing football at an international level. 

You had no point.

You're now being condescending and posting pics.

 

[kirku 1,286]

1 minute ago, king canary said:

This is painful.

I just can't

[TheDarkKnight 277]

Just now, king canary said:

This is painful.

It really is.

Are you saying that you could play professionally for Scotland, too?

 

[Petriix 2,141]

If you want a clear understanding of Billy Gilmour as a complete midfielder, all you have to do is look at the highlights from all of Norwich's games in which he played last season. He features in most of the goals: you can see him jogging back into the shot just as the ball is slammed into the Norwich goal. I don't think they keep reliable stats for positional errors or failing to track your man so claiming that your son wee Billy was statistically our best midfielder is a bit like saying Tim Krul was our best striker because all his shots were on target.

Ultimately there's a reason why he isn't getting a game for Brighton. It's possible that he will develop the missing bits of his game, but it's totally absurd to claim that he already has an all round game appropriate to the Premier League. He probably should have gone on loan in League 1 last season and then the Championship this time, otherwise I'm not sure how he'll get the minutes required to actually learn.

Oh, an one thing Billy really didn't do for Norwich was 'show for the ball'. And he certainly never turned anyone. He did hit some nice passes into threatening areas, but he didn't really understand Pukki's movement or how to thread a through-ball for him to run on to.

It was a monumental mistake for Norwich to think that Gilmour would be up to the required standard. Farke got it reasonably quickly and dropped him. Sadly Dean Smith didn't - like with so many other facets of his tenure - so we were treated to a whole season of watching his shortcomings first hand.

[NorthCarolinaYellow 166]

Logging in AGAIN to just laugh my **** off at this. I never would have expected such insanity on page one even with Gilmour being discussed and TDK being involved.

 

Carry on, friends. If anything ... let's push this to new heights? We've sort of dropped the "Gilmour is really not that far off from Pirlo" discussion which I think is a potential goldmine of comedy.

[TheDarkKnight 277]

Yeah. Gilmour walking into the England midfield is ludicrous. 

Forgot that England have prime Pirlo and Zidane in there.

[Ken Hairy 2,747]

1 hour ago, kirku said:

"Billy Gilmour got an assist in the Carabao Cup and that's the reason he'd walk into the England side"

It gets funnier and funnier

Seriously, why is this idiot still posting on here?? 

[Ken Hairy 2,747]

1 hour ago, kirku said:

I didn't want to explicitly point out how incredibly thick you must be to not understand the point I was making in response to these comments:

 

Do you get it yet?

 

And, no, no matter how many times you ask, I'm not going to PM you..

Why does he want you to PM him?? Bit weird

Edited November 28, 2022 by Ken Hairy

[Indy 2,635]

Is Billy just another young McLean, decent enough for championship or Scottish Premiership but just not good enough for the EPL?

[TheDarkKnight 277]

1 minute ago, Ken Hairy said:

Why does he want you to PM him?? Bit weird

Because I didn't want to spam the post.

 

[kirku 1,286]

20 minutes ago, NorthCarolinaYellow said:

Logging in AGAIN to just laugh my **** off at this. I never would have expected such insanity on page one even with Gilmour being discussed and TDK being involved.

 

Carry on, friends. If anything ... let's push this to new heights? We've sort of dropped the "Gilmour is really not that far off from Pirlo" discussion which I think is a potential goldmine of comedy.

I'm not aware of TDK's history but sounds like he only comes on here to defend his son?

[TheDarkKnight 277]

Graeme Souness: "England needs someone like him (Gilmour) desperately"

But what does Graeme Souness (And Patrick Vieira) know about midfielders. When there's so many people with FIFA coaching badges on here...

Edited November 28, 2022 by TheDarkKnight

[Michael Wynless Jones 161]

Jesus Christ, I haven't posted on here for about 2 years, although been reading but nothing has forced me out of hiding to post like this utter utter garbage being spoken by the Dark Knight. I actually genuinely can't believe what I'm reading, so I just wanted to pop on to add to the list of people calling you a deluded fool. 

See you all in another couple of years. 

[Ken Hairy 2,747]

Graeme Souness being used as evidence , have you not heard the tripe he bangs on about on TalkSport every Monday. Continually gets put back in his box by Simon Jordan. 

Part of me wants to block this idiot, even though I've never blocked anyone,  but I just can't, his posts are like a car crash that you can't look away from. 

[TheDarkKnight 277]

23 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

Graeme Souness being used as evidence , have you not heard the tripe he bangs on about on TalkSport every Monday. Continually gets put back in his box by Simon Jordan. 

Part of me wants to block this idiot, even though I've never blocked anyone,  but I just can't, his posts are like a car crash that you can't look away from. 

Dude, even Gary Neville said "it's a sobering experience for England as McGinn, Gilmour and McGregor were better on the ball than the England midfield".

2:52: "Gilmour always made himself available. England don't have that player"

Want to ridicule Gary Neville, too? 

I know that you've English and you're defensive. But come on. Three fully qualified coaches are echoing what I'm saying.

Don't really have to justify my opinion, but I just have. I just posting a clip of an EPL manager and two previous managers agreeing with my point.

Checkmate.

Edited November 28, 2022 by TheDarkKnight

[wcorkcanary 3,981]

3 hours ago, hogesar said:

Equally, anyone would think you were talking about some Champions League midfielder who's been in good form and grabbed 5 goals and 8 assists half way through this season.

Instead you're talking about Billy Gilmour who can barely get minutes off the bench for a Brighton side that will likely finish midtable. A Billy Gilmour who Brighton will delightfully allow to go on loan.

A Billy Gilmour who has played 13 minutes of football this season. He can't even be trusted as an option to rest their better players. A total of over 2000 Premier League minutes for Chelsea, Norwich and Brighton with a single assist to show for all that passing and awareness. 

And to think Mo Leitner got stick, Wee Bully as yet has shown nothing like what Mo had, sure he wore his shorts in a ridiculous fashion but he could set the tone and pick a pass.

[TheGunnShow 4,200]

3 hours ago, king canary said:

But you can quite happily build a team and win games without a player of that type. England showed that in the Euro's or in the previous World Cup, Arsenal right now top the league with a pivot of Xhaka and Partey, neither of whom are a Pirlo type playmaker. A midfield of Rice, Bellingham and Mount is not missing Billy Gilmour and honestly if he wasn't Scottish this would never even be a suggestion.

Dunno, wasn't Xhaka essentially supposed to be a fairly deep-lying playmaker, albeit one that's not - quite - as out-and-out creative and a bit more combative than the average DLP? Partey certainly isn't, he gets the ball and gives it to those who are better pure ball-players.

[wcorkcanary 3,981]

50 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said:

Graeme Souness: "England needs someone like him (Gilmour) desperately"

But what does Graeme Souness (And Patrick Vieira) know about midfielders. When there's so many people with FIFA coaching badges on here...

Souness defended Ronaldo's interview with Puss Morgan. Souness is an idiot.....he's also a jock. Tartan specs?

PS I'm pretty sure they'd be UEFA coaching badges 

Edited November 28, 2022 by wcorkcanary

[hogesar 7,404]

41 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said:

Dude, even Gary Neville said "it's a sobering experience for England as McGinn, Gilmour and McGregor were better on the ball than the England midfield".

2:52: "Gilmour always made himself available. England don't have that player"

Want to ridicule Gary Neville, too? 

I know that you've English and you're defensive. But come on. Three fully qualified coaches are echoing what I'm saying.

Don't really have to justify my opinion, but I just have. I just posting a clip of an EPL manager and two previous managers agreeing with my point.

Checkmate.

Most of your quotes come from one game where Gilmour played well and England were diabolical. It's not a norm or an accurate marker.

Ryan Jarvis had a couple of good Prem appearances but that didn't make him England quality.

Pundits are essentially paid to over hype. He is a nothing player and his career will generally prove that if it hasn't already.

[SwearyCanary 1,035]

Just want to point out DK hasn’t insulted anyone. I completely disagree with him but look at his post history, one of the most respectful guys on here. Maybe some of the trolls can get back in their box and just agree to disagree. 
 

Edit: this doesn’t apply to all replies 

Edited November 28, 2022 by SwearyCanary

[Midlands Yellow 2,942]

4 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said:

Just want to point out DK hasn’t insulted anyone. I completely disagree with him but look at his post history, one of the most respectful guys on here. Maybe some of the trolls can get back in their box and just agree to disagree. 
 

Edit: this doesn’t apply to all replies 

Excellent post and I wish I could post respectfully at all times, unfortunately I can’t. 

[ricardo 5,842]

1 hour ago, Indy said:

Is Billy just another young McLean, decent enough for championship or Scottish Premiership but just not good enough for the EPL?

Yes

[SwearyCanary 1,035]

1 minute ago, Midlands Yellow said:

Excellent post and I wish I could post respectfully at all times, unfortunately I can’t. 

I’m guilty too tbf. 

[Mengo 701]

10 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said:

Just want to point out DK hasn’t insulted anyone. I completely disagree with him but look at his post history, one of the most respectful guys on here. Maybe some of the trolls can get back in their box and just agree to disagree. 
 

Edit: this doesn’t apply to all replies 

Good post SwearyCanary   . There's a world cup to enjoy ffs

Norwich  would look good in the brazil strip. Absolute class.  

[Ken Hairy 2,747]

11 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Most of your quotes come from one game where Gilmour played well and England were diabolical. It's not a norm or an accurate marker.

Ryan Jarvis had a couple of good Prem appearances but that didn't make him England quality.

Pundits are essentially paid to over hype. He is a nothing player and his career will generally prove that if it hasn't already.

This is all the proof we need about wee Krankie. Hoggy, you as we know take a lot to criticise a player, we've often disagreed over the time I've been on here, McLean being the obvious example. So Dark Knight if Hoggy is criticising a player then you know that the player is no sodding good. 

[Ken Hairy 2,747]

13 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said:

Just want to point out DK hasn’t insulted anyone. I completely disagree with him but look at his post history, one of the most respectful guys on here. Maybe some of the trolls can get back in their box and just agree to disagree. 
 

Edit: this doesn’t apply to all replies 

Trolls is a bit much, I agree he's not slagged anyone off, I don't get why he's here but it's a free world. However just like I do in real life if I think someone is talking tripe then they'll be told and usually with a high amount of **** take too. 

 

Maybe it's just the type of people I'm used to talking to in public, give it out plenty but also take it too. 

[SwearyCanary 1,035]

7 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

Trolls is a bit much, I agree he's not slagged anyone off, I don't get why he's here but it's a free world. However just like I do in real life if I think someone is talking tripe then they'll be told and usually with a high amount of **** take too. 

 

Maybe it's just the type of people I'm used to talking to in public, give it out plenty but also take it too. 

I retract ‘troll’ - bit strong 

[SwearyCanary 1,035]

14 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

This is all the proof we need about wee Krankie. Hoggy, you as we know take a lot to criticise a player, we've often disagreed over the time I've been on here, McLean being the obvious example. So Dark Knight if Hoggy is criticising a player then you know that the player is no sodding good. 

My marker is whether I think I’d rather retain Cantwell over him. I would and there a few bars lower than that for me

[Mengo 701]

8 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said:

I retract ‘troll’ - bit strong 

Trolling is when someone post or comments online to deliberately upset others. In short: Trolling is when someone deliberately tries to upset others online. Trolling can lead to a pile on, when others join in the attack. Don't feed the trolls – responding is likely to make things worse.

[OnDaBall 115]

I think the reason there was/is such an issue with Gilmour, is that we were continuously told that he was this amazing player and that Norwich was a poor move for him, that we were beneath him. So he unfairly had all this pressure on him at the same time as we were being told what a disgrace we were as a Premier League team. He wasn't great, but neither was anyone else, so I wouldn't say he was a scapegoat for us being relegated more a symbol of our frustration at how the media portrayed us.

Edited November 28, 2022 by OnDaBall