cambridgeshire canary 6,518 Posted November 6, 2022 Seems that right now he's everything Gilmour wishes he could be 😉 Seriously however it's fair to say hes been doing well and deserves some credit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RugbyCanary 94 Posted November 6, 2022 Not watched the game. Can anyone say if it was a 2 up top or captain America on the wing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red_Spartan 18 Posted November 6, 2022 DS said 2 up top. Ramsey clearly likes to follow into the box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rock bus 836 Posted November 6, 2022 That’s one of those goals that looks really messy but actually has some good play in it. Fantastic direct direct run by Sargent with a decent shot, great determination by Pukki and Ramsey does really well to follow the play and make sure he is in the right place at the right time. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 2,821 Posted November 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, RugbyCanary said: Not watched the game. Can anyone say if it was a 2 up top or captain America on the wing? Definitely 4-4-2 diamond. Significantly the wide midfielders seemed to be forming proper partnerships with their fullbacks (apart from when Kenny turned up on the right wing for a few minutes in the second half). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,598 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, rock bus said: That’s one of those goals that looks really messy but actually has some good play in it. Fantastic direct direct run by Sargent with a decent shot, great determination by Pukki and Ramsey does really well to follow the play and make sure he is in the right place at the right time. Interestingly, wasn’t Sargent’s shot with his left peg? He’s done that a fair bit and I’m sure we were told by one ‘expert’ that he didn’t have one!? edit - but this is meant to be about Ramsey - he’s been playing well of late. With him, Sara and Hayden fit and firing we have started to look a fair bit better Edited November 6, 2022 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,389 Posted November 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, RugbyCanary said: Not watched the game. Can anyone say if it was a 2 up top or captain America on the wing? BYG suggested on Twitter a sort of 4-2-2-2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,092 Posted November 6, 2022 Totally different players, but Ramsey has the end product that Cantwell hasn't. Great to see our midfielders getting in on the goals of late. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,598 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: Totally different players, but Ramsey has the end product that Cantwell hasn't. Great to see our midfielders getting in on the goals of late. Think DS said we’ve had 16 different scorers this season - I couldn’t be bothered to check but that seems a lot with less than half a season played, I guess a mix of having injuries and being a bit flexible. Edited November 6, 2022 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coneys Knee 932 Posted November 6, 2022 28 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: Interestingly, wasn’t Sargent’s shot with his left peg? He’s done that a fair bit and I’m sure we were told by one ‘expert’ that he didn’t have one!? edit - but this is meant to be about Ramsey - he’s been playing well of late. With him, Sara and Hayden fit and firing we have started to look a fair bit better More than one ‘expert’. I think some of those experts had written him off completely. The same ‘experts’ that seem to take joy out of writing all sorts of players of ours off! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,066 Posted November 6, 2022 48 minutes ago, Badger said: BYG suggested on Twitter a sort of 4-2-2-2: I may just not understand this but that looks like 2-4-2-1-1? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,598 Posted November 6, 2022 I think what it shows is that formations are rather fluid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,896 Posted November 6, 2022 I made some fairly sarcastic remarks about Ramsey when we first loaned him. I was wrong. He's a decent player, even at his young age. Personally I didn't think he had a particularly good game yesterday compared to most of the team. But he turned up in the right place at the right time, which is a very important skill and something he seems to be good at. I don't rate him anywhere near as highly when he's on the wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
If wed kept Howie.. 187 Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Badger said: BYG suggested on Twitter a sort of 4-2-2-2: Brazil! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,518 Posted November 6, 2022 I mean.. Are the Villa fans wrong though?😂 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted November 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: I mean.. Are the Villa fans wrong though?😂 The first and third are, but the second and fourth make valid points. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,503 Posted November 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: I mean.. Are the Villa fans wrong though?😂 Yes they're generally wrong, but not about the entitlement bit. However I think the away fans have been superb and delighted they were rewarded with a win yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 742 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, hogesar said: Yes they're generally wrong, but not about the entitlement bit. However I think the away fans have been superb and delighted they were rewarded with a win yesterday. It’s a bit rich that they mention “entitled”. The majority of people I know are villa fans and I’ve heard some absolute hilarious comments from them regarding O’Neil, Grealish, 1982 and premiership status. Back onto Ramsey. He was quiet yesterday. One good turn and the ref decide to give a free kick instead of advantage for him to start the attack, a few neat passes and in the right place for his goal. He needs to work harder for the team and want the ball more. He is definitely a lot better than that game against Hull (where he missed an absolute sitter). So for them to have a go at “inbred” Norwich shows how much attention they are actually paying to the loan export, as Smith has certainly improved him. But he needs a lot more improvement before he is premiership standard. Edited November 6, 2022 by Dr Greenthumb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,518 Posted November 6, 2022 In other news Villa are beating United 2-0 in less than 10 minutes.. huh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,753 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) Really? On the plus side he's scored 3 goals, 2 of which were keeper assisted . On the minus side he disappears for most of the game. He's not fit to lace Cantwell's boots Edited November 6, 2022 by dylanisabaddog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,891 Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Branston Pickle said: Interestingly, wasn’t Sargent’s shot with his left peg? He’s done that a fair bit and I’m sure we were told by one ‘expert’ that he didn’t have one!? While I'm not the 'expert' you're referring to, you peaked my interest enough to check on the actual facts regarding Josh's left peg. Of his 12 goals for us, only 2 have been scored with his left foot (against Coventry and Bournemouth) according to transfermarkt.co.uk. That said, I checked the replay for his second against Bournemouth and he actually fell on his ar5e, missing the ball with his left and then the ball clipped the back of his right and went in. So 1 in 12. ∴ he does have a left foot, can kick a ball with it but that's about it; you're never going to bet your house on him getting many with it. If you were inclined to describe his right as a wand, his left would probably fit the description of a brick. I've clearly got too much time on my hands today. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrD66M 95 Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Badger said: BYG suggested on Twitter a sort of 4-2-2-2: This formation works if the fullbacks can do a fair bit of attacking, which Aarons and McCallum did yesterday tbf. Only thing I'd like to try is have Sargent (#24) as the spearhead and Teemu just slightly off him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Branston Pickle said: Interestingly, wasn’t Sargent’s shot with his left peg? He’s done that a fair bit and I’m sure we were told by one ‘expert’ that he didn’t have one Have a day off. Edited November 6, 2022 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,598 Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Not sure who you think you are quoting, as I've never called myself an expert, but there's been £25 up for grabs for Pups for 15 months... payable when Sargent scores with his left foot. I'm not paying out on a shot. Read Disco Dale’s reply - apparently 2 in 12 with his left, or 1 if you exclude Bournemouth. He clearly favours his right, but there’s not a lot unusual in that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: Read Disco Dale’s reply - apparently 2 in 12 with his left, or 1 if you exclude Bournemouth. He clearly favours his right, but there’s not a lot unusual in that. Just watched the highlights and I'll count the Coventry one and pay £25, not realised he'd bagged one. Do me a favour though and don't put words in quotes to imply that people have said something when they haven't, I've never called myself an 'expert' anything. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,598 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Just watched the highlights and I'll count the Coventry one and pay £25, not realised he'd bagged one. Do me a favour though and don't put words in quotes to imply that people have said something when they haven't, I've never called myself an 'expert' anything. Thanks. I think you’ll find it is (largely) a “free country” and I can put “whatever I like” in “quotes”. But I’m feeling generous and will match that £25 to csf as I won £100 on the club lottery and promised myself I’d give half away. Edited November 6, 2022 by Branston Pickle 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,173 Posted November 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Really? On the plus side he's scored 3 goals, 2 of which were keeper assisted . On the minus side he disappears for most of the game. He's not fit to lace Cantwell's boots Considering Cantwell’s lack of end product this season that’s a strong opinion. Cantwell not finding Josh yesterday was absolutely criminal. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,753 Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Monty13 said: Considering Cantwell’s lack of end product this season that’s a strong opinion. Cantwell not finding Josh yesterday was absolutely criminal. TC can be our best player one game and not get picked the next. But he isn't a Villa player.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,351 Posted November 7, 2022 I like Ramsey and I've been able to see the positives he offers from the start. However, the negatives also remain since the start- he always has 10-15 minutes early in the game where he looks like probably the best player on the pitch, and then reverts to a total passenger. Given what we heard about Sinani and subsequently how he started the season, I'd think he would have contributed similar by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,503 Posted November 7, 2022 15 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: TC can be our best player one game and not get picked the next. But he isn't a Villa player.... Ramsey has been dropped too. But he's the only midfielder we've got who's pushed himself into the right position to score goals. I know a lot went early on Ramsey being "Smiths Villa mate" and feel the need to double-down but in the cold light of day it really does look a bit silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites