GodlyOtsemobor 2,296 Posted October 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: They did it twice 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Goals on the 96th and 99th minutes for Charlton 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrD66M 99 Posted October 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, baldy09 said: Smith ok until christmas now Not Crimbo, I gather it could be after the World Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,658 Posted October 29, 2022 Thought 65 minutes were very poor and the front players had an obvious lack of confidence. The plus was that Stoke never really created a clear chance in that period either. Post 65 minutes the substitutions and confidence of a second goal saw a lot more from us in an attacking sense. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldy09 156 Posted October 29, 2022 Must admit at least I feel a bit more cheerful than another facing deflation over a loss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,340 Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Nuff Said said: To quote Tayor Swift, which is not something I say very often, or in fact ever before now, "just because you made a good plan, doesn’t mean that’s what’s gonna happen." If we conceed a goal after 5 minutes, what do we do then? If we score 3 before half time do we still bring the flair players on? As someone else said "life is what happens when you're making plans". Yeah, as I said above, I wasn't being entirely serious. But it is definitely worth thinking about who works best from the bench and who is best as a starter. I wonder whether the two South Americans might come into that first category. The game here is so much quicker that you can see why they might get a bit lost, whereas they could be real weapons from the bench. I thought Sara was outstanding when he came on against Preston, for example. Enjoyed the Taylor Swift quote, btw. The other one is John Lennon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,772 Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, hogesar said: Thought 65 minutes were very poor and the front players had an obvious lack of confidence. The plus was that Stoke never really created a clear chance in that period either. Post 65 minutes the substitutions and confidence of a second goal saw a lot more from us in an attacking sense. Sums it up perfectly. I hope now he sticks with 4-2-3-1, as 4-3-3 doesn't work with these players. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,716 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) Would agree that we were pretty poor through the first half and it felt a 0-0 was on the way but credit to Smith for sorting it out with his subs and changing the game up in the second half Edited October 29, 2022 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,296 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ken Hairy said: Sums it up perfectly. I hope now he sticks with 4-2-3-1, as 4-3-3 doesn't work with these players. Don't count on it, Wednesday will be back to 4-3-3 with sarge out wide. McLean in midfield etc. Edited October 29, 2022 by GodlyOtsemobor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,340 Posted October 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: Goals on the 96th and 99th minutes for Charlton 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LOL 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,296 Posted October 29, 2022 Just now, Robert N. LiM said: LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,547 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Would agree that we were pretty poor through the first half and it felt a 0-0 was on the way but credit to Smith for sorting it out with his subs and changing the game up in the second half I wonder if it might have been a bit more than that. We've been so rubbish at defending leads that winding down the clock with a robust setup to go for it later with more attacking substitutions makes sense to me. Edited October 29, 2022 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Nuff Said said: To quote Tayor Swift, which is not something I say very often, or in fact ever before now, "just because you made a good plan, doesn’t mean that’s what’s gonna happen." If we conceed a goal after 5 minutes, what do we do then? If we score 3 before half time do we still bring the flair players on? As someone else said "life is what happens when you're making plans". Being a bit like Bethnal... I have dabbled in tabletop wargames throughout my life, and have a little interest in history too. A Prussian in 1871, Field Marshal Helmuth von Moltke the Elder gave some great insight that has been paraphrased since - which I will use as the originally is longer winded than even I am on occasions... "No good plan survives contact with the enemy". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Robert N. LiM said: LOL I bloody love Plymouth Argyle... apart from when they are playing us, which luckily hasn't been all that frequently in my lifetime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,272 Posted October 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said: LOL Oh fantastic 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,296 Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, chicken said: "No good plan survives contact with the enemy". I prefer Mike Tyson.. " Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth " 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted October 29, 2022 Just now, GodlyOtsemobor said: I prefer Mike Tyson.. " Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth " Which is exactly the tactic he has deployed with his girlfriends/partners which is probably a good enough reason not to use it IMHO... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,547 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, hogesar said: Thought 65 minutes were very poor and the front players had an obvious lack of confidence. The plus was that Stoke never really created a clear chance in that period either. Post 65 minutes the substitutions and confidence of a second goal saw a lot more from us in an attacking sense. I thought they were deliberately sitting back. The line up itself looked like it was built to absorb pressure rather than create chances. It felt like the game plan was to let them come onto us for a good period of time, then hit them when they were tiring with attacking substitutions. Edited October 29, 2022 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted October 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: I wonder if it might have been a bit more than that. We've been so rubbish at defending leads that winding down the clock with a robust setup to go for it later with more attacking substitutions makes sense to me. I have a lot of respect for your posts but that is just so wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,340 Posted October 29, 2022 Apologies for the language if you don't like that sort of thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,431 Posted October 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said: LOL Ha ha ha . Then the home end went even more bonkers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,658 Posted October 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: I thought they were deliberately sitting back. The line up itself looked like it was built to absorb pressure rather than create chances. It felt like the game plan was to let them come onto us for a good period of time, then hit them when they were tiring with attacking substitutions. I'd be surprised. You don't play Ramsey Hernandez and Dowell if you're just looking to absurd pressure. I think Dowell was absolutely dreadful and we couldn't link things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,340 Posted October 29, 2022 Just now, Graham Paddons Beard said: Ha ha ha . Then the home end went even more bonkers I think it's the fact that they weren't even playing Plymouth that makes it so enjoyable. Best bit of ITFC social media shade since Wycombe described us as 'East Anglia's finest' just to p1ss them off. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,431 Posted October 29, 2022 3 pts . Binners “go bonkers” and then concede 2 goals . We’ve had worse days Rodney . Night all. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don’t be Krul 399 Posted October 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, hogesar said: I'd be surprised. You don't play Ramsey Hernandez and Dowell if you're just looking to absurd pressure. I think Dowell was absolutely dreadful and we couldn't link things up. Aside from the odd flash of skill I've never worked out what Dowell brings to the table. He is dire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,915 Posted October 29, 2022 Well, that's Smith in a job until at least the end of the WC break. We just have to hope that those people who tell us how wonderful he is are right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, canarybubbles said: Well, that's Smith in a job until at least the end of the WC break. We just have to hope that those people who tell us how wonderful he is are right. I'm not so sure. He's bought himself some time... but there are three more games before the WC. I think it still hands in the balance at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted October 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, chicken said: Being a bit like Bethnal... I have dabbled in tabletop wargames throughout my life, and have a little interest in history too. A Prussian in 1871, Field Marshal Helmuth von Moltke the Elder gave some great insight that has been paraphrased since - which I will use as the originally is longer winded than even I am on occasions... "No good plan survives contact with the enemy". I prefer Mike Tyson's version: “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted October 29, 2022 Just now, ron obvious said: I prefer Mike Tyson's version: “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” Already been here chap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,296 Posted October 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, ron obvious said: I prefer Mike Tyson's version: “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” You are me and I claim my £5 🤣 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted October 29, 2022 Whoops, missed that one. Apologies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites