Radio Norfolk

[Bomber 48]

Once again I listened to Radio Norfolk interviewing Dean Smith last night and was again left flabbergasted as to why they do not put him on the spot and ask him questions that the fans want answering rather than just the drivel they ask him which constantly brings the same replies we hear game after game on how he thought we controlled the game at certain points blah blah blah

I would like them to ask him as to why a striker obviously in form is constantly played out on the wing with an obvious misfiring striker still occupying the main berth and as to why Aaron’s who was highly effective previously running down the wing is now scared to pass the half way line

This would provide a much more interesting interview rather than the dull drivel we constantly have to put up with 

[Big Vince 318]

2 minutes ago, Bomber said:

Once again I listened to Radio Norfolk interviewing Dean Smith last night and was again left flabbergasted as to why they do not put him on the spot and ask him questions that the fans want answering rather than just the drivel they ask him which constantly brings the same replies we hear game after game on how he thought we controlled the game at certain points blah blah blah

I would like them to ask him as to why a striker obviously in form is constantly played out on the wing with an obvious misfiring striker still occupying the main berth and as to why Aaron’s who was highly effective previously running down the wing is now scared to pass the half way line

This would provide a much more interesting interview rather than the dull drivel we constantly have to put up with 

It is because the Socialists have the local media in their back pockets and have done so for many years now. Don't forget the Socialists have spent their entire careers in the media and know how it works, including how to turn it off. 

Radio Norfolk, for their part, are scared of the club. They fear that if they get too critical they will be barred from the ground and from press conferences.

I agree that the reporters' interview technique is appalling. Rather than asking a direct question they load the answer within the question so that the head coach is put in a very easy position to simply agree with the loaded question. Thus the interview becomes a conversation rather than achieving any objective outcome. The interviewer should simply ask: why is Max Aarons no good? At least it puts the coach on the spot.

But the Socialists sorted all this out to their own ends years ago.

[Capt. Pants 4,195]

BBC Radio Norfolk are in partnership to deliver rhe Canaries TV offering. Any criticism will be measured to say the least.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,735]

He actually said on RN last night

"I'm not one to make excuses" !!

That's all he has been doing during October..to the extent where he's running out of them

[TheRock 155]

The coverage on Radio Norfolk is now ruined by the poor quality of biased guests who are nothing more than apologists for how the poorly club is run, and defending Delia+Michael as they are still involved and/or on the payroll for the club. Simon Lappin is one of the worst as he blindly defends the club and is so condescending to others, along with Rob Butler cheerleading him on.

 

One of the only guests that seems to constructively critisise the team with a fair and free opinion is Efan Ekoku.

Edited October 26, 2022 by TheRock

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,247]

As others have said it's fear. 

Rob and Chris both nearly have heart attacks as soon as anyone criticizes the club in any way (even arguing against Rivvo at times) 

I know they have to offer the other side of the fence views, and can't go all out attack at the club and top brass but they do go as far as being ' blind ' to what's actually happening at times, the only time I've ever heard them criticizing the club is when there's been literally no where to go - no positive spin what so ever. 

Rob, give him his due, is slightly more critical than Chris, but then I believe it's because Rob doesn't have much contact with the team/managerial staff. 

Also if they lost the favour of the club  they would be completely lost.... 

 

 

Much better listening to Michael bailey, Connor, Along come Norwich and even TNC on occasion, but only in small doses. 

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,247]

4 minutes ago, TheRock said:

The coverage on Radio Norfolk is now ruined by the poor quality of guests who are nothing more than apologists for how the club is ran, and defending Delia+Michael as they are still involved and/or on the payroll for the club. Simon Lappin is one of the worst as he blindly defends the club and is so condescending to others, along with Rob Butler cheerleading him on.

 

One of the only guests that seems to constructively critisise the team with a free opinion for me is Efan Ekoku.

This too, it's sickening.

The best thing for me was the other day Chris was trying to say how McLean should be in the team even though fans don't rate him because he's a managers favourite and must do stuff on the pitch and training field that we don't see as 2 managers have now picked him regularly... Tried to bring in Mark Rivers to prove his point.... Rivvo then said " well actually I don't like him, and there's a few others I'd have in instead of him ".   

 Chris had no idea how to respond and actually was some dead air for a few seconds before coming up with something to say. 

Really did make me chuckle as Rivvo is another one who has no issue with being critical towards the management/players/club. Unlike the likes of lappin who would join Rob and Chris with the heart attack if there's proper criticism in the air. 

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by GodlyOtsemobor

[alex_ncfc 647]

As others have said, Rivers is great on co-comms, he says it how it is and isn't afraid to.

Lappin is shocking. Won't hear a single bad word or complaint against the club, team or owners. Nothing is ever wrong in his eyes. But then I believe he is employed by the club in some capacity...in which case, why have him on?

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,735]

39 minutes ago, TheRock said:

The coverage on Radio Norfolk is now ruined by the poor quality of biased guests who are nothing more than apologists for how the poorly club is run, and defending Delia+Michael as they are still involved and/or on the payroll for the club. Simon Lappin is one of the worst as he blindly defends the club and is so condescending to others, along with Rob Butler cheerleading him on.

 

One of the only guests that seems to constructively critisise the team with a fair and free opinion is Efan Ekoku.

Mark Rivers is prepared to say it how it is...

[Kingston Yellow 220]

1 hour ago, Capt. Pants said:

BBC Radio Norfolk are in partnership to deliver rhe Canaries TV offering. Any criticism will be measured to say the least.

Have to say, Mark Rivers has provided co-commentary the last 2 games and he's pulled no punches at all in his assessment of how bad we are currently.  

In particular, he's criticised Smith's tactics, called out why Kenny McClean gets so much game time and seems undroppable, has openly commented that Hanley's a decent Champs defender, but not more than that.  And other such similar comments.  

Refreshing to hear someone offering a genuine 'fan' opinion, rather than the likes of Simon Lappin who's opinion is completely blighted by his need to keep his head firming up Webber's @rse.

Edited October 26, 2022 by Kingston Yellow

[WD40 720]

1 hour ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

As others have said it's fear. 

Rob and Chris both nearly have heart attacks as soon as anyone criticizes the club in any way (even arguing against Rivvo at times) 

I know they have to offer the other side of the fence views, and can't go all out attack at the club and top brass but they do go as far as being ' blind ' to what's actually happening at times, the only time I've ever heard them criticizing the club is when there's been literally no where to go - no positive spin what so ever. 

Rob, give him his due, is slightly more critical than Chris, but then I believe it's because Rob doesn't have much contact with the team/managerial staff. 

Also if they lost the favour of the club  they would be completely lost.... 

 

 

Much better listening to Michael bailey, Connor, Along come Norwich and even TNC on occasion, but only in small doses. 

I’ve seen this argument made but surely the optics are even worse for the club to shut out the national broadcaster, just doing their job? All would seem a bit Vladimir Putin were it picked up nationally. 

[Pyro Pete 1,889]

Can we not do to this.

It's not Radio Norfolk's fault we're crap at the moment. Both Chris Goreham in his post-match interviews, and Rob Butler giving his personal opinions, have been critical of the club when it's merited it.

I appreciate we're all pretty cheesed off right now. But blaming everyone in sight, when they have no influence on results isn't going to get us anywhere.

Assign blame where it's merited. Webber, Smith, the players, even the board and owners. But don't blame the media.

[nutty nigel 7,509]

Perhaps we'll soon be able to access match coverage tailored to our own points of view.

Probably have to pay a premium but then have Button A Mark Rivers or Button B Simon Lappin. Then we won't ever have to put up with alternative points of view...

 

[Midlands Yellow 3,934]

1 minute ago, nutty nigel said:

Perhaps we'll soon be able to access match coverage tailored to our own points of view.

Probably have to pay a premium but then have Button A Mark Rivers or Button B Simon Lappin. Then we won't ever have to put up with alternative points of view...

 

Option B then Nutty. 

[nutty nigel 7,509]

Mark Rivers is my favourite.

I see one of your many favourites won last night...

[Midlands Yellow 3,934]

2 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Mark Rivers is my favourite.

I see one of your many favourites won last night...

Town? 

[nutty nigel 7,509]

2 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said:

Town? 

You know this won't end well Armchair Fanboy...

[Midlands Yellow 3,934]

Just now, nutty nigel said:

You know this won't end well Armchair Fanboy...

In what way? 

[nutty nigel 7,509]

2 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said:

In what way? 

I was thinking of posters word clouds and on whose Town would feature most...

 

[shefcanary 2,385]

The Pink'Un boys via the Live blog that goes on during the match have been told in no uncertain terms to ask those sort of questions. Bailey also has received similar pressure. But press conferences are skillfully managed by the club's PR team, with friendly questioners like Goreham getting the bulk of the conference time, then the nationals all get one question each, before moving to the regional correspondents.

The Pink'un does get more than one question usually because Southwell and Davitt are both present, but they have to produce answers that they can fill column inches in so it makes it difficult to go for specific questions on players performance (why is Aarons a shadow of his former self?) when the question they ask is why did we lose tonight?  This is even if the nationals and others may have asked a similar question because of direct attribution required for articles in the press (shìt I know but that is the pressure journalists are under in the modern world).

Without the Pink'Un boys getting unfettered access to Smith I'm afraid they can only submit the sort of questions we want answering in a form  (i.e. email) that is easily ignored or responded to in a bland way.

Not sticking up for them, just highlighting the difficulties they operate under. You just hope that one day, that one of them goes out on a limb and asks the bombshell question. Maybe if we lose to Stoke?🤞

Edited October 26, 2022 by shefcanary

[SwearyCanary 1,179]

1 hour ago, Pyro Pete said:

Can we not do to this.

It's not Radio Norfolk's fault we're crap at the moment. Both Chris Goreham in his post-match interviews, and Rob Butler giving his personal opinions, have been critical of the club when it's merited it.

I appreciate we're all pretty cheesed off right now. But blaming everyone in sight, when they have no influence on results isn't going to get us anywhere.

Assign blame where it's merited. Webber, Smith, the players, even the board and owners. But don't blame the media.

The Media’s job is to present the views of all stakeholders, as far as possible be neutral but not direct the conversation in the direction they want. That’s bias and it’s damaging for them long term. Part of presenting the views of dabs is putting these questions to the club in a non judgemental way so there is a specific response to our concerns by the club. If you don’t ask the questions then we don’t get the answers we want. They deserve being called out for it I’m afraid 

[nutty nigel 7,509]

7 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

The Pink'Un boys via the Live blog that goes on during the match have been told in no uncertain terms to ask those sort of questions. Bailey also has received similar pressure. But press conferences are skillfully managed by the club's PR team, with friendly questioners like Goreham getting the bulk of the conference time, then the nationals all get one question each, before moving to the regional correspondents.

The Pink'un does get more than one question usually because Southwell and Davitt are both present, but they have to produce answers that they can fill column inches in so it makes it difficult to go for specific questions on players performance (why is Aarons a shadow of his former self?) when the question they ask is why did we lose tonight?  This is even if the nationals and others may have asked a similar question because of direct attribution required for articles in the press (shìt I know but that is the pressure journalists are under in the modern world).

Without the Pink'Un boys getting unfettered access to Smith I'm afraid they can only submit the sort of questions we want answering in a form  (i.e. email) that is easily ignored or responded to in a bland way.

Not sticking up for them, just highlighting the difficulties they operate under. You just hope that one day, that one of them goes out on a limb and asks the bombshell question. Maybe if we lose to Stoke?🤞

If Webber's not available for questions then even approved ones won't get an answer. 

I don't know what people expect the manager to say...

 

[Pyro Pete 1,889]

1 hour ago, SwearyCanary said:

The Media’s job is to present the views of all stakeholders, as far as possible be neutral but not direct the conversation in the direction they want. That’s bias and it’s damaging for them long term. Part of presenting the views of dabs is putting these questions to the club in a non judgemental way so there is a specific response to our concerns by the club. If you don’t ask the questions then we don’t get the answers we want. They deserve being called out for it I’m afraid 

It might be in the BBC's remit to be balanced and impartial.

However, that's not the role of independent media. They can come from whatever angle they choose.

But if the club don't put senior officials in front of the media, how are the media supposed to question them in the first place?

Take the recent release of the club's accounts. No-one from the club was made available to the media to comment on them. Despite the concerning nature of the club's debt and spiralling wage bill.

[PockthorpePete 331]

There does appear to be an almost childlike naivety going on here. Toys are being thrown out of prams because Smith is not going to give the replies expected "Err, yes, we were basically crap". Even if the interviewer ask if the team were crap, there will not be the answer demanded. Perhaps if some on here stamp their little feet a bit harder, they might get the answers they want.  However, NCFC turned over £130m (?) last season. That is a huge business. One that does not feel any requirement to be accountable to Derek of Dereham, whatever his gripes.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

53 minutes ago, PockthorpePete said:

There does appear to be an almost childlike naivety going on here. Toys are being thrown out of prams because Smith is not going to give the replies expected "Err, yes, we were basically crap". Even if the interviewer ask if the team were crap, there will not be the answer demanded. Perhaps if some on here stamp their little feet a bit harder, they might get the answers they want.  However, NCFC turned over £130m (?) last season. That is a huge business. One that does not feel any requirement to be accountable to Derek of Dereham, whatever his gripes.

I think the OP was asking for them to be put on the spot. I think we all know what the answers would be.

If we were eight points clear at the top I would imagine there would be very little need for tough questions.

Or because the club is a huge business only when we are losing?

[Nexus_Canary 1,016]

7 hours ago, Big Vince said:

It is because the Socialists have the local media in their back pockets and have done so for many years now. Don't forget the Socialists have spent their entire careers in the media and know how it works, including how to turn it off. 

Radio Norfolk, for their part, are scared of the club. They fear that if they get too critical they will be barred from the ground and from press conferences.

I agree that the reporters' interview technique is appalling. Rather than asking a direct question they load the answer within the question so that the head coach is put in a very easy position to simply agree with the loaded question. Thus the interview becomes a conversation rather than achieving any objective outcome. The interviewer should simply ask: why is Max Aarons no good? At least it puts the coach on the spot.

But the Socialists sorted all this out to their own ends years ago.

Wtf is this Soviet Russia??

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Nexus_Canary

[SwearyCanary 1,179]

I don’t expect the answers we want, but I do expect the questions to be asked. That way there can be no suggestion that BBC Radio Norfolk are being unbalanced. The club can therefore either answer it openly and honestly or not and be interpreted accordingly as a result. No foot stamping from me, but the opportunity to make our own conclusions from their response or lack there of, would be fair. 

[Norfolk Mustard 94]

I'm perfectly happy with how BBC Radio Norfolk operate as I already know what I think about NCFC's recent performances...

[Mello Yello 2,280]

If you listen really carefully on Radio Norfolk during Canary Call, or when Bob Rutler goes chattywalkabout pre-game to speak to the fans... You may just about hear egg shells being ever so delicately crunched underfoot....

[PockthorpePete 331]

4 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

I think the OP was asking for them to be put on the spot. I think we all know what the answers would be.

If we were eight points clear at the top I would imagine there would be very little need for tough questions.

Or because the club is a huge business only when we are losing?

Demanding the right to have questions put, that you admit won't be answered. I think we have been here before. The latter half of this clip -

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by PockthorpePete