Krul permanently axed from internationals

[vlad666 203]

[cambridgeshire canary 6,675]

I made a thread just yesterday on a rumour that was doing the rounds about how he had been not called up. Guess there was more to it than that than we knew. Did seem odd they stated someone who is almost 39 years old and had never even played for the team before and they called him up and played him over Krul.  Fair enough I suppose, if they don't want to start you why would you go? He clearly cared about wanting to play in the world cup and they have made it clear they don't want him as a starter.

[Capt. Pants 4,195]

Fair enough I suppose. Sounds like the Dutch are collecting data to make themselves better at penalty shootouts and they would have wanted as many players participating as possible. Krul would have been an ideal keeper to be involved.

Good news for NCFC as long as his attitude is not impacted here.

 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,777]

Sounds like they didn't name Krul in the squad, but wanted him to go over there anyway just so the Dutch players could take a few penalties against him. 

I don't really blame Krul for turning it down; even if he did force his way back into the World Cup squad, he'd be unlikely to play and he's already had the experience anyway.

[Google Bot 3,256]

1 hour ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

I don't really blame Krul for turning it down; even if he did force his way back into the World Cup squad, he'd be unlikely to play and he's already had the experience anyway.

You'd think he would do all he could to support his country though, I don't get why players get snobby when not being picked.

[KiwiScot 1,436]

5 minutes ago, Google Bot said:

You'd think he would do all he could to support his country though, I don't get why players get snobby when not being picked.

Is it he said no to penalties and didn't get picked or didn't get picked and said no to penalties? Yes agree regards the supporting the country especially if you are a few injuries away from making the squad, but if he was say 5th choice  I could see why he'd tell Van Gaal no. Seems off to me.

[Ulfotto 623]

It is not how to treat players when the tournament is so close. Krul is not a youngster if he has no realistic chance of making squad why would he turn up basically to be what would in cricket be called a net bowler. Poor form. 

[vlad666 203]

Krul wasn’t picked for the squad but they wanted to use him just so they could practice their penalties against him. He refused so van gaal basically said his international career was over. He wasn’t going to be picked anyway or go to the World Cup. 
I don’t blame krul for getting the hump as it must seems bit demeaning if they only want you for penalty practice. On the other hand you’re helping your country. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Branston Pickle 3,634]

I guess Krul thought it’d be a waste of his time, and he’s right.  I’d much prefer him training at NCFC or having a break.  He wasn’t picked in the current squad so wasn’t likely to be in future squads, so van Gaal is being a bit of an ****, that’s nothing new.

[Greavsy 2,412]

2 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

I made a thread just yesterday

Just the one? 😉 

Sorry mate, couldn't resist

[Yellow Green Army 237]

Holland now odds on to get knocked out on pens. Tabloid headlines ‘ If only we had taken the mighty Tim Krul’.

[Capt. Pants 4,195]

'Scientific penalty tests' sounds a bit more than practicing pens, unless something has been lost in translation here.

I can see both sides of this. The reality is he's a keeper on a downward spiral and wouldn't have played anyway.

[wesforprimeminister 25]

LVG is a bit of a BEEP. Good for Tim to sack this off. 

[Greavsy 2,412]

6 minutes ago, wesforprimeminister said:

LVG is a bit of a BEEP. Good for Tim to sack this off. 

Profanity checker upgrade appears to have worked! 

[Yellow and Green 334]

I have a feeling TK's been stitched up here. 

There are loads of keen goalkeepers - who are based in Holland - who could've done that job. Instead he's asked Krul to do something wholly unreasonable and probably a bit demeaning. 

I wouldn't be surprised if LVG knew that Krul would turn it down so that he could either get rid of Krul or make some kind of a statement.

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,777]

3 hours ago, Google Bot said:

You'd think he would do all he could to support his country though, I don't get why players get snobby when not being picked.

I do get that point of view as well, but at the same time, I can see why an experienced international would turn it down. A younger player would jump at the chance, but to tell an older player that they're not part of the squad but still ask them to join up for penalty practice seems a bit off. 

[cambridgeshire canary 6,675]

1 hour ago, Yellow and Green said:

I have a feeling TK's been stitched up here. 

There are loads of keen goalkeepers - who are based in Holland - who could've done that job. Instead he's asked Krul to do something wholly unreasonable and probably a bit demeaning. 

I wouldn't be surprised if LVG knew that Krul would turn it down so that he could either get rid of Krul or make some kind of a statement.

"Hey mate I know you're in England but could you come fly over to us here in the Netherlands? No, you're not getting called up to the team we just want you to do a couple hours in goal while our team practices penaltiies against you. No? Alright you're axed from the team forever bye"

[Commonsense 618]

I’m guessing that in real life, forever means as long as LVG is in charge.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,510]

3 hours ago, Capt. Pants said:

'Scientific penalty tests' sounds a bit more than practicing pens, unless something has been lost in translation here.

I can see both sides of this. The reality is he's a keeper on a downward spiral and wouldn't have played anyway.

How so?

[Capt. Pants 4,195]

2 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

How so?

I don't think his performances have been anything special this season. No better or worse than any other keeper we've been up against.

 

[chicken 2,604]

10 hours ago, Capt. Pants said:

'Scientific penalty tests' sounds a bit more than practicing pens, unless something has been lost in translation here.

I can see both sides of this. The reality is he's a keeper on a downward spiral and wouldn't have played anyway.

A lot more likely to have played than a 39yr old uncapped keeper... It all seems a bit daft to me.

In all fairness though, why would you want to go and sit in that scorching sunshine when you could be back here in blighty and... oh, yeah. Could have saved a fortune on his energy bills.

[Attleborough_Canary 65]

32 minutes ago, chicken said:

A lot more likely to have played than a 39yr old uncapped keeper... It all seems a bit daft to me.

In all fairness though, why would you want to go and sit in that scorching sunshine when you could be back here in blighty and... oh, yeah. Could have saved a fortune on his energy bills.

Because he would rather be at the tennis!

[lake district canary 4,531]

Tim knew he wasn't going to play in world cup, probably not got a lot of time for van Gaal anyway - known to be rude and difficult. Tim has young family, a chance to spend some quality time with them, understandibly says no and gets that nasty little statement from Van Gaal. Won't affect Tim in the slightest.

[Michael Starr 519]

Stupid. Expecting him to fly out there to face a few penalties to prove himself as a penalty taker when we all know he's probably the best spot kick defender they have. He's better off without them tbh

[Mr Angry 1,545]

You can kind of see why Van Gaal asked him, as he does have a reputation as a penalty saving specialist, but then he probably knows a lot about how the players usually take them anyway, so it wouldn’t replicate the scenario that they will be facing in the World Cup against an unknown keeper.

BTW I didn’t know that Holland had qualified, I thought they’d missed out!

[Capt. Pants 4,195]

Looking at the bigger picture if the Netherlands are doing scientific testing and there are learnings to be had, it may have been useful from a NCFC perspective that Krul was part of that. You never know we may have a penalty shootout in a Play-off semi or final!

[chicken 2,604]

5 hours ago, Capt. Pants said:

Looking at the bigger picture if the Netherlands are doing scientific testing and there are learnings to be had, it may have been useful from a NCFC perspective that Krul was part of that. You never know we may have a penalty shootout in a Play-off semi or final!

Or, we could already be doing it, Krul/NCFC offered to send them the data from it and they said no.

In all honesty, the only thing I could think they would be data testing for penalties is reaction times, speed from standing to get to the bottom corners etc. I mean I'm sure there's more to it... The main issue I would have with that is if testing it away from the scenario it's all relatively useless.

You can have your best penalty taker in training, and they can crumble under that pressure, doubt themselves, change their mind about what they are going to do and then scuff their penalty.

Just seems such a silly thing for a manager of such high regard to spit their dummy out over and weaken their squad for.