BigFish 1,986 Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, king canary said: They aren't done yet though- also last season they accounted for about 30% of their entire divisions spending. They haven't repeated the £100m splurge the first time they went up but I'd imagine they are paying out some pretty big wages. Amortisation means they are still, or at least have been, paying for that splurge. That, running losses at £50m a season, FFP rules and a desire to be "sustainable" means that there is little to spend in the here and now strengthening the team. You can see why Parker might have felt constrained and suggest a change of approach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted August 30, 2022 Steve Coppell still about ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,086 Posted August 30, 2022 Paul Lambert Favourite for the Job ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted August 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Making Plans said: Tony Pulis is a shoe in Probably bought it from the club shop 😉🙃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,491 Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: Horrendous choice of knitwear on a hot day though is a sackable offence. I wonder if there has been an altercation about the lack of squad strengthening. And so it begins. Gerrard next. Captain Scarlet wear isn't it? Agree about Gerrard next. Possibly then Lampard. I felt his post match comments even after the Liverpool mauling were defeatist - even if he meant well. At least we've never had a 9-0 spanking. More of these kinds of results to come as the PL becomes ever more imbalanced? Edited August 30, 2022 by sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Tea 105 Posted August 30, 2022 Just backs up the gulf between the ' normal ' clubs and the few elite clubs in the prem. Should have let them **** off to that super league that was touted around. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete 318 Posted August 30, 2022 Not the way to keep your club in the PL, if you want to stay must invest. Owner has been seduced by Eddie Howe's immediate success in keeping Bo'mth in PL for a long period. Welcome to the yoyo brigade see you next seasson or very soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Brockes 145 Posted August 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mr Tea said: Just backs up the gulf between the ' normal ' clubs and the few elite clubs in the prem. Should have let them **** off to that super league that was touted around. Except the elite clubs were only prepared to settle for the best of both worlds ie join a European super league AND stay in the Premier League. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,078 Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, canarycop said: Absolute joke of a club they are. Parker lauded for getting them promoted then sacked after being hammered by one of the best teams in the world.....laughable Yeah, we'd never do that... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city4eva 207 Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, king canary said: Seems like it's as much about the post match interview as the result. I watched that interview..was never going to last long after that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,078 Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) Was this essentially where he admitted Bournemouth werent as good as Liverpool and would struggle to compete? Yeah, the audacity... Edited August 30, 2022 by The Great Mass Debater Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christoph Stiepermann 1,131 Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) This is why people like Hughton and Farke often bigged up the opposition, it was a way of saying the same thing Parker has without actually saying it to get themselves in trouble. It wasn't about being defeatist or disrespecting us, you can't get away with saying your squad isn't good enough so usually managers talk about how challenging the opposition are as a way to deflect blame and protect players. Edited August 30, 2022 by Christoph Stiepermann Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, sonyc said: Captain Scarlet wear isn't it? Agree about Gerrard next. Possibly then Lampard. I felt his post match comments even after the Liverpool mauling were defeatist - even if he meant well. At least we've never had a 9-0 spanking. More of these kinds of results to come as the PL becomes ever more imbalanced? "At least we've never had a 9-0 spanking." How can you call Parker defeatist when you don't even believe in the promise of Norwich going where few clubs have gone before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Tea 105 Posted August 30, 2022 54 minutes ago, Barry Brockes said: Except the elite clubs were only prepared to settle for the best of both worlds ie join a European super league AND stay in the Premier League. Really ? Well that shows what i know and more importantly why there was so much opposition. Would people have been as upset if it was just a Super League ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, pete said: Not the way to keep your club in the PL, if you want to stay must invest. Owner has been seduced by Eddie Howe's immediate success in keeping Bo'mth in PL for a long period. Welcome to the yoyo brigade see you next seasson or very soon. Yeah and the old arguments keep coming round again. You maybe buy a few years in the premier league and then either you have a bad window or the money runs out, fall into the next division and are hamstrung for a decade by the financial implosion that can follow. Or You don't spend, get relegated and go back to being the best of the rest on a relatively sustainable footing. As a football fan of anyone outside of the established premier league sides, it's actually a grim choice. It's why I can't be bothered to get involved in the "should have spent money" Vs the "we can't afford it" debates. Mainly cos both sides are correct. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worthy Nigelton 1,037 Posted August 30, 2022 Welcome to the Premier League. It's basically pointless and boring unless you're one of the top 6 or 7. Even if Bournemouth did spend £150m what's the best they can hope for? 14th? Relegated but a bit later in the season than others? The PL is dull. End of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted August 30, 2022 https://m.facebook.com/90sFootballMemories/videos/scott-parker-in-1994-mcdonalds-advert/523792072788103/ One to make you feel old! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robornio 106 Posted August 30, 2022 From my source, who works at Bournemouth, it seems Parker is a bit ‘Hoddle-like’. Expected every player to play like him, as good as him and as committed to winning. Then through frustration, slammed everyone as “not good enough for this level”, even the players he brought in during the summer. That obviously upset everyone in the club and killed the dressing room vibe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,578 Posted August 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Robornio said: From my source, who works at Bournemouth, it seems Parker is a bit ‘Hoddle-like’. Expected every player to play like him, as good as him and as committed to winning. Then through frustration, slammed everyone as “not good enough for this level”, even the players he brought in during the summer. That obviously upset everyone in the club and killed the dressing room vibe. It is also interesting that there don't seem to be many upset Bournemouth fans about this decision- same when he left Fulham. He seems to be someone fanbases don't get that attached to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted August 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, king canary said: It is also interesting that there don't seem to be many upset Bournemouth fans about this decision- same when he left Fulham. He seems to be someone fanbases don't get that attached to. He doesn't come over as a man of the people does he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,405 Posted August 30, 2022 4 hours ago, PurpleCanary said: If that is true then the contrast with Forest (see adjoining thread...) could hardly be clearer. I'm not sure that the contrast is as clear as all that - it's just that Max Denim is "further down the road." He has pumped tens of millions into Bournemouth (£160 million), £28 million in the 20/21 season alone (https://www.dorset.live/sport/football/football-news/expect-revenue-fall-further-2022-6881052) - I think that he is, perhaps, reaching his limit. He must know that Bournemouth will never be a premier league fixture and will always be dependent upon his money, perhaps he's had enough of just throwing it away and wants to adopt a strategy similar to our own? It's quite possible that the Forest owner might get fed up in the end as well - but Forest have more of a chance than Bournemouth of becoming semi-established - their crowds are three times bigger for a start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,195 Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Worthy Nigelton said: Welcome to the Premier League. It's basically pointless and boring unless you're one of the top 6 or 7. Even if Bournemouth did spend £150m what's the best they can hope for? 14th? Relegated but a bit later in the season than others? The PL is dull. End of. Nope. Been some absolutely cracking games so far. Can't wait to get back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benchwarmer 624 Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) Bournemouth are doing it "the Norwich way" this season, and Scott Parker knows it. "Ill-equipped at this level" is another way of saying that Bournemouth would rather get relegated and cop a load of parachute money than try to stay in the Prem, so that they have an unfair financial advantage over most other Championship clubs next time round. It's bad for the Prem and even worse for the Championship. Parachute payments are ruining the game. Time for a radical rethink. Edited August 30, 2022 by benchwarmer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YellowCanary 11 Posted August 30, 2022 Would you have him as Norwich boss ? Not my cup of tea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted August 30, 2022 Might be Lampard tomorrow morning if they lose tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted August 30, 2022 51 minutes ago, YellowCanary said: Would you have him as Norwich boss ? Not my cup of tea In different circumstances maybe. From reading between the lines he's been sacked for talking too much truth to the press. Basically said he felt under equipped which is probably true to beat any of the top 6. He did however best Aston Villa. I'm not sure what Bournemouth expect another manager to do with the same players anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,241 Posted August 30, 2022 57 minutes ago, benchwarmer said: Parachute payments are ruining the game. Time for a radical rethink. Agree that they are unfair on other clubs in the Champs, but parachute payments are a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. The problem is the huge gap in income between the PL and the Champs. That's what needs the rethink. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 623 Posted August 30, 2022 He’s beaten Villa and then lost to Man City, Arsenal and spectacular to Liverpool. In terms of result they are ahead of where you would expect them to be. His comments were not great but I’m not sure what is expected really they can’t compete with three of those teams but they beat the one they have to compete with. Plus that is basically are start to last season. On a Norwich slant Dean Smith was often criticised last year for post match comments but he obviously chose his words carefully and did not “burn” the dressing room and it shows because this season the team are still playing for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PockthorpePete 331 Posted August 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said: Agree that they are unfair on other clubs in the Champs, but parachute payments are a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. The problem is the huge gap in income between the PL and the Champs. That's what needs the rethink. Remove them and the gap would become far, far bigger than it is now. Promoted clubs would not commit themselves to transfers or contracts - as both are usually paid over three years. Plenty of clubs have been relegated from the PL in the past decade, yet have not dominated the Championship. It is the money earned from European football prize, tv, gates etc. Something that is pretty much a closed shop for the top six or so. Something that is set to be further entrenched after 2024 by the EUFA coefficient plan. Time these big clubs were stopped from having their cake and eating it. Tell them to f*ck off, and then see how well they do it what would soon become a zombie competition 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
