non-scoring strikers 153 Posted August 17, 2022 I dare say that Pukki seems bereft of any type of good form that previously saw him tear defences in this league to ribbons and he’s looked distracted for a while now. Sargent was useful last night but we were playing in what looked like a training exercise, Huddersfield offered nothing except from what we gave them, which by the end of the game turned out to be quite considerable. The less said about the bumbling, ineffective Hugill the better. I know Idah is set to return at some point but he’s also rather leaden-footed. There is no way we can seriously be considered promotion favourites with the above forward line. We urgently need a decent striker. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarycop 232 Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, non-scoring strikers said: I dare say that Pukki seems bereft of any type of good form that previously saw him tear defences in this league to ribbons and he’s looked distracted for a while now. Sargent was useful last night but we were playing in what looked like a training exercise, Huddersfield offered nothing except from what we gave them, which by the end of the game turned out to be quite considerable. The less said about the bumbling, ineffective Hugill the better. I know Idah is set to return at some point but he’s also rather leaden-footed. There is no way we can seriously be considered promotion favourites with the above forward line. We urgently need a decent striker. I agree. Think we need a Hucks/Crouch type moment plus a left back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 907 Posted August 17, 2022 Pukki will get going given time, hes only played three games. People need to be patient. Class is permanent. I would certainly welcome a new centre forward but if we have to go with what we have up top and the wide players/ number tens then we have plenty to finish top two without an addition. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RugbyCanary 106 Posted August 17, 2022 Sargent/hugill play a different game to pukki. 433 sort of stifles his play. Pukki needs a proper 10 to play balls through to him. 4231 is the preferred play for playing to pukkis strength. I don't believe smith wants to play that way so until injuries happen or players regaining fitness (Hayden etc). We'll see a different pukki. Yes he's getting on a bit, but write him off at your peril 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted August 17, 2022 I agree. Our current options are good enough for mid table but a promotion push requires two special strikers capable of getting the goals Pukki is. But ageing and suffering loss of form sargent isn’t. Gets the odd goal but his first touch is appalling. idah is always about to be good or injured - I fear more likely to be the next Ryan Jarvis than the next Bellamy hugill is L2 standard with a good attitude Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 573 Posted August 17, 2022 I thought Sargent played well last night. A better striker will cost us a lot of money. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 573 Posted August 17, 2022 Surely the problem whis season has been that we have conceded too many stupid goals. They always happen but it our defense which needs sorting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 793 Posted August 17, 2022 I would argue if we are going to add anything else in the window it would be another defensive midfield player as an option to tighten things up from the bench. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,829 Posted August 17, 2022 I will die on this hill, Clarke-Harris is who we should be going for. Scored goals in this league for a relegated posh. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,356 Posted August 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: I will die on this hill, Clarke-Harris is who we should be going for. Scored goals in this league for a relegated posh. Not the worst shout to be fair, valued at about £1.5m although I imagine Posh would want more. He's 28 so doesn't quite fit our transfer model Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coneys Knee 1,041 Posted August 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, Newtopia said: Surely the problem whis season has been that we have conceded too many stupid goals. They always happen but it our defense which needs sorting. People wouldn’t be talking about defensive mistakes at all if we were taking a greater percentage of our chances. Goals win games, unfortunately we struggle to score consistently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwearyCanary 1,339 Posted August 17, 2022 We will not get another striker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,745 Posted August 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: I will die on this hill, Clarke-Harris is who we should be going for. Scored goals in this league for a relegated posh. You are not the bloke who called Canary Call last night are you? 😃 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,578 Posted August 17, 2022 Don’t agree we need another striker. If anything we need another full back or defensive mid. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 594 Posted August 17, 2022 Josh Sargent turns out to be a good centre forward. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,172 Posted August 17, 2022 We set up last night with Sargent up front and won for the first time this season with a far better display from most players a part from defensive error people are now saying change formation and drop sarge for pukki ? why change a winning team ? Why make football difficult when really it is simple stick to a winning side 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
non-scoring strikers 153 Posted August 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, SwearyCanary said: We will not get another striker. Unfortunately you are correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 959 Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, non-scoring strikers said: I dare say that Pukki seems bereft of any type of good form that previously saw him tear defences in this league to ribbons and he’s looked distracted for a while now. Sargent was useful last night but we were playing in what looked like a training exercise, Huddersfield offered nothing except from what we gave them, which by the end of the game turned out to be quite considerable. The less said about the bumbling, ineffective Hugill the better. I know Idah is set to return at some point but he’s also rather leaden-footed. There is no way we can seriously be considered promotion favourites with the above forward line. We urgently need a decent striker. Oh yes we can be seriously considered, we’ve got far to many arrogant fans who think we’ve a right to promotion and have the best players in the league not to be right in the mix, it would be inconceivable! 🤣🤣🤣🤬. it’s imprinted all over this forum this last two months. And now it’s dawning, our players aren’t quite as good as these fans bizarrely demand, it’s all Smiths fault! No I’m not supporting Smith here, it’s just his job remit and expectations are at odds with what’s feasible with this group of players! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 959 Posted August 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, norfolkngood said: We set up last night with Sargent up front and won for the first time this season with a far better display from most players a part from defensive error people are now saying change formation and drop sarge for pukki ? why change a winning team ? Why make football difficult when really it is simple stick to a winning side Maybe, just maybe, because it’s different opposition next. Like Sargent is the answer!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,172 Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, ged in the onion bag said: Maybe, just maybe, because it’s different opposition next. Like Sargent is the answer!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 well Sargent has not been the answer but he did the business last night was Pukki the answer for the first 3 games ? so Gibbs gets dropped now does he if a midfielder is available ? how about Sinani gets dropped now because Rashica cost more money ? lets play players that are in FORM lets keep a Formation that works 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,128 Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ged in the onion bag said: Maybe, just maybe, because it’s different opposition next. Like Sargent is the answer!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 And the opposition that the OP says 'offered nothing except what we gave them' with this formation and personnel, finished last championship season in 3rd place. It's just more evidence that the overall formation and philosophy is working, which is undermined by the odd individual error, but those errors are becoming less frequent as evidenced by the shift last night from losing to bottom end Championship teams to winning against a top-end championship team. Edited August 17, 2022 by littleyellowbirdie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 959 Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, norfolkngood said: well Sargent has not been the answer but he did the business last night was Pukki the answer for the first 3 games ? so Gibbs gets dropped now does he if a midfielder is available ? how about Sinani gets dropped now because Rashica cost more money ? lets play players that are in FORM lets keep a Formation that works I am with you 100% on all of that except the centre forward role. For me we have three options, Pukki and carry on expecting improvements (possible), Idah or 2 up top! Sargent and Hugill have done literally nothing to suggest they can contribute consistently. Idah at least has potential provided he can get fit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 959 Posted August 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: And the opposition that the OP says 'offered nothing except what we gave them' with this formation and personnel, finished last championship season in 3rd place. It's just more evidence that the overall formation and philosophy is working, which is undermined by the odd individual error, but those errors are becoming less frequent as evidenced by the shift last night from losing to bottom end Championship teams to winning against a top-end championship team. Point noted but Huddersfield last season is not Huddersfield this season, they’ve lost lots of players! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,172 Posted August 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, ged in the onion bag said: I am with you 100% on all of that except the centre forward role. For me we have three options, Pukki and carry on expecting improvements (possible), Idah or 2 up top! Sargent and Hugill have done literally nothing to suggest they can contribute consistently. Idah at least has potential provided he can get fit! yes believe me i would not of had Sargent upfront last night but he did prove me wrong he put in a shift scored and got a player sent off Now i do not know if he will continue to score history says no but i think he has earned the chance Pukki history says he is a Norwich Great but the 3 games he has played he is out of sorts i just think players need to be rewarded for playing well Sarge did what was asked the whole team played with more freedom i think for one game we have to keep it the same IF the old sarge comes back then of course take him off then Pukki gets his chance 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calle 20 Posted August 17, 2022 I would like to see at least 3 new players before the window ends, a defender (would like an upgrade cb, but can understand the need for lb due to injuries), a winger and a striker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 959 Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Calle said: I would like to see at least 3 new players before the window ends, a defender (would like an upgrade cb, but can understand the need for lb due to injuries), a winger and a striker. Dear Santa Claus….. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,710 Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Jim Smith said: Don’t agree we need another striker. If anything we need another full back or defensive mid. Agreed. At this level, Pukki / Sargent / Idah / Hugill is enough, especially when we primarily play one up-front. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, AJ said: He's 28 so doesn't quite fit our transfer model How did you work that one out, wasn't Pukki 28 when we signed him, and Hugill 27 or 28? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 6,204 Posted August 17, 2022 Agree that we could do with more quality amongst our striking options. Hugill, Sargent and Idah all have pretty obvious weaknesses and I'm not sure any of us would be that confident if Pukki were to be injured for any length of time. But I am staggered by how quick some people have been to write Pukki off. Quite happy to accept he hasn't been at his best in the opening three games, but show the guy some respect. We're so lucky to have him. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 793 Posted August 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said: Agree that we could do with more quality amongst our striking options. Hugill, Sargent and Idah all have pretty obvious weaknesses and I'm not sure any of us would be that confident if Pukki were to be injured for any length of time. But I am staggered by how quick some people have been to write Pukki off. Quite happy to accept he hasn't been at his best in the opening three games, but show the guy some respect. We're so lucky to have him. Agreed just Imagine last season but without Pukki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites