10 games is what he should get

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

And if not within touching distance of the top 6 and looking like we're heading towards consistently good form, time to do a Watford.

We do need to be ruthless. We do need our new signings to hit the ground running.

But we don't need to pant wet, and we probably do need to deliver him a centre back before we can claim he's got all the required tools. 

[Nexus_Canary 1,206]

I think 10 is generous given the bloke had half a Prem season. 

But I agree, if we are outside of the play offs after 10 Smith must go. I hope the board are already sounding out replacements.
Im probably going to get hate for this but f**k it.
Rus Martin - he knows the club, understands the club and knows what we want to achieve. 
 

[Virtual reality 860]

6 games for me. If he can’t get results against Hull, Huddersfield, Millwall and Sunderland then there is no point in sticking with him 

[norfolkngood 1,174]

I think you are right only one new signing started today

the others have been here long enough to know what is needed and played together long enough 

if smith has not got the message of how he wants to play and tactics  over to the players by now I will be worried 

 

[king canary 8,757]

5 minutes ago, Virtual reality said:

6 games for me. If he can’t get results against Hull, Huddersfield, Millwall and Sunderland then there is no point in sticking with him 

Sure if he fails to win any of those then 6 may be fair.

However if he say picks up 7 points from those 4 then it is probably too small a sample size.

[cambridgeshire canary 7,798]

Issue is I don't think there's too many managers out there who could do a better job

[Billyboybunters 27]

1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Issue is I don't think there's too many managers out there who could do a better job

Who would people want?! Russ Martin in my view is to early in his managerial career,  but who else would people want? 

[yellowrider120 917]

9 minutes ago, Nexus_Canary said:

I think 10 is generous given the bloke had half a Prem season. 

But I agree, if we are outside of the play offs after 10 Smith must go. I hope the board are already sounding out replacements.
Im probably going to get hate for this but f**k it.
Rus Martin - he knows the club, understands the club and knows what we want to achieve. 
 

This is just one of the similar comments from Swans fans tonight:-

Having been at the match for 85 minutes because I walked out with thousands of others because this was c###. The players are like automatons. Coached like robots. Pass, pass, pass even if it's near the goal or in mid field. Get in the box, just keep on passing. This is awful. We will get relegated unless this changes. So boringly predictable. Utter bilge. A League 1 manager who had good PR.

[littleyellowbirdie 3,140]

8 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

And if not within touching distance of the top 6 and looking like we're heading towards consistently good form, time to do a Watford.

We do need to be ruthless. We do need our new signings to hit the ground running.

But we don't need to pant wet, and we probably do need to deliver him a centre back before we can claim he's got all the required tools. 

I'm against sackings part way through a season, so I would simply say that if we're not promoted at the end of the season he goes, but until then, just get behind them. 

[Virtual reality 860]

1 minute ago, Billyboybunters said:

Who would people want?! Russ Martin in my view is to early in his managerial career,  but who else would people want? 

The manager who I thought we should have turned to once we made the wrong decision to sack Farke. Knutson from Bodo Glimpt 

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

4 minutes ago, Billyboybunters said:

Who would people want?! Russ Martin in my view is to early in his managerial career,  but who else would people want? 

That chap who got a very poor Huddersfield team into the play offs perhaps?

(Actually, see he's been picked up so that's a no go)

Edited August 6, 2022 by TeemuVanBasten

[Midlands Yellow 4,682]

4 minutes ago, Billyboybunters said:

Who would people want?! Russ Martin in my view is to early in his managerial career,  but who else would people want? 

The day we appoint Russ Martin as manager is the day to give in for anyone with any sense who supports NCFC. 

[The Real Buh 3,765]

20 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Issue is I don't think there's too many managers out there who could do a better job

Literally anyone

sick of looking at that dumpy little Brummies fat f@£ing face after yet another failure

cant

even

beat

Wigan

Edited August 6, 2022 by The Real Buh

[The Real Buh 3,765]

17 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

I'm against sackings part way through a season, so I would simply say that if we're not promoted at the end of the season he goes, but until then, just get behind them. 

Muuuuuuug

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

1 minute ago, The Real Buh said:

Literally anyone

sick of looking at that dumpy little Brummies fat f@£ing face after yet another failure

cant

even

beat

Wigan

I do worry that Villa went downhill when they lost John Terry and appointed Shakespeare, and whether John Terry was who the players really respected and played for.

In fact, should we be worried that John Terry walked out on Dean Smith in the first place, wonder why he'd had enough?

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

19 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

I'm against sackings part way through a season, so I would simply say that if we're not promoted at the end of the season he goes, but until then, just get behind them. 

Should have kept Neil Adams then and not appointed Alex Neil who took us up that same season? 

[The Real Buh 3,765]

1 minute ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

I do worry that Villa went downhill when they lost John Terry and appointed Shakespeare, and whether John Terry was who the players really respected and played for.

In fact, should we be worried that John Terry walked out on Dean Smith in the first place, wonder why he'd had enough?

Would you respect them?

is Dean Smith a guy you “run through a brick wall” for?

nah

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

1 minute ago, The Real Buh said:

Would you respect them?

is Dean Smith a guy you “run through a brick wall” for?

nah

He doesn't enthuse me at all, but I tend to judge by results, Lambert was always a boring c*nt save for the odd bit of passion on the touchline and a good fist pump now and again, but couldn't knock his results here.

I do think that Smith came here on the rebound after losing his dream job, would have thought a 6 month world cruise to do a bit of healing and soul searching would have been in order before jumping back in the hot seat, it felt a bit odd to me that.

[Mullet 293]

29 minutes ago, Billyboybunters said:

Who would people want?! Russ Martin in my view is to early in his managerial career,  but who else would people want? 

Russ Martin does at least have a game plan, pass the socks of the ball make no head way, eventually give the ball away 6 yards out and concede soft goals. I can see the logic of wanting this 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Mullet

[Christoph Stiepermann 1,261]

I think we're going to spend most of this season floating up and down between 4th and 12th which means this debate will just go on and on. He'll never be in danger of being sacked but nobody will be happy either. I can just see us drawing too many games this year because we struggle to score goals and conceed cheap ones. 

We'll dominate most games and feel hard done by quite often, we'll probably smash a few teams on our day as well but I can't see us winning consistently with this team being less than the sum of it's parts. It'll be up to people to decide if that's because of the manager or the recruitment strategy, I lean towards recruitment being the problem as our attacking players just don't compliment each other so even if we got a better manager in I can't see us storming through this league. Might be better to let Smith have this one as we go through a transition and hope we can build a more coherent team next year. 

[The Real Buh 3,765]

1 minute ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

He doesn't enthuse me at all, but I tend to judge by results, Lambert was always a boring c*nt save for the odd bit of passion on the touchline and a good fist pump now and again, but couldn't knock his results here.

I do think that Smith came here on the rebound after losing his dream job, would have thought a 6 month world cruise to do a bit of healing and soul searching would have been in order before jumping back in the hot seat, it felt a bit odd to me that.

Apparently he was on holiday post Villa sacking when Webber gave him a call out of the blue.

he’s out of his depth, has no control over this team and should be sacked

[Hank shoots Skyler 2,094]

10 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

sick of looking at that dumpy little Brummies fat f@£ing face after yet another failure

No need for that, stick to taking the **** out of the tea drinking, that's fair game - this is just poor.

[Monty13 2,736]

30 minutes ago, yellowrider120 said:

This is just one of the similar comments from Swans fans tonight:-

Having been at the match for 85 minutes because I walked out with thousands of others because this was c###. The players are like automatons. Coached like robots. Pass, pass, pass even if it's near the goal or in mid field. Get in the box, just keep on passing. This is awful. We will get relegated unless this changes. So boringly predictable. Utter bilge. A League 1 manager who had good PR.

Bet you can go back and find similar comments about Farke back in the beginning when it wasn’t quite working before it all clicked.

[Canary dwarf 221]

I would also say another 10 games then assess the situation, there was certainly some positives ,max,Kenny,and Todd played well ,Nunez and Sara had some good touches and will improve with time.but Gibson, pukki, rashica and gianoullis were poor which is a major concern.hernadez his usual self shows brilliance and crapness in equal measure.so the jury's out😃

[cambridgeshire canary 7,798]

31 minutes ago, Virtual reality said:

The manager who I thought we should have turned to once we made the wrong decision to sack Farke. Knutson from Bodo Glimpt 

And if he says no which he would?

[The Real Buh 3,765]

2 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said:

No need for that, stick to taking the **** out of the tea drinking, that's fair game - this is just poor.

this is unacceptable 

im just 100% right about this being unacceptable 

[Hank shoots Skyler 2,094]

Agree with the OP. 

I think posters need to accept that Webber has entrusted Smith to turn things around. He's had pre season and he's now getting his first new signings through, we have to give him a bit of a fresh slate as well knowing that he's been afforded some additional rope. Calling for his head after 2 games is ridiculous and there is no realistic scenario where Webber would pull the trigger at this stage. 

The performances haven't been terrible by any stretch, I think most days we draw at Cardiff and win today - things haven't gone our way but the underlying play has still been of a team largely in control. I'm confident we'll start winning games soon. 

[Virtual reality 860]

7 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

And if he says no which he would?

You his agent? We’re talking about a manager in the Norwegian league that has achieved all he can with his club and giving him the chance to take a previously relegated team back to the PL. There is no reason to believe he would turn us down 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Virtual reality

[Mullet 293]

41 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

And if not within touching distance of the top 6 and looking like we're heading towards consistently good form, time to do a Watford.

We do need to be ruthless. We do need our new signings to hit the ground running.

But we don't need to pant wet, and we probably do need to deliver him a centre back before we can claim he's got all the required tools. 

He has Sergent and Hugill who couldn't score in Amsterdam and Rashica who is crap and can't cross a ball without hitting it straight into a defender. You are right about one thing, one more signing from Webber and DS will have all the tools.

[The Real Buh 3,765]

This thread should be called “we’ve given up on Smith but don’t want to say it yet anonymous”

I know you’ve all seen what I’ve seen. I know you are all ready to give up on this Aston Villa reject. Just one last push. You are all packed up ready to go, nearly at the gates now 😂