TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted August 6, 2022 And if not within touching distance of the top 6 and looking like we're heading towards consistently good form, time to do a Watford. We do need to be ruthless. We do need our new signings to hit the ground running. But we don't need to pant wet, and we probably do need to deliver him a centre back before we can claim he's got all the required tools. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,206 Posted August 6, 2022 I think 10 is generous given the bloke had half a Prem season. But I agree, if we are outside of the play offs after 10 Smith must go. I hope the board are already sounding out replacements. Im probably going to get hate for this but f**k it. Rus Martin - he knows the club, understands the club and knows what we want to achieve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 858 Posted August 6, 2022 6 games for me. If he can’t get results against Hull, Huddersfield, Millwall and Sunderland then there is no point in sticking with him 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,172 Posted August 6, 2022 I think you are right only one new signing started today the others have been here long enough to know what is needed and played together long enough if smith has not got the message of how he wants to play and tactics over to the players by now I will be worried Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,735 Posted August 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Virtual reality said: 6 games for me. If he can’t get results against Hull, Huddersfield, Millwall and Sunderland then there is no point in sticking with him Sure if he fails to win any of those then 6 may be fair. However if he say picks up 7 points from those 4 then it is probably too small a sample size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,778 Posted August 6, 2022 Issue is I don't think there's too many managers out there who could do a better job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyboybunters 27 Posted August 6, 2022 1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Issue is I don't think there's too many managers out there who could do a better job Who would people want?! Russ Martin in my view is to early in his managerial career, but who else would people want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 908 Posted August 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nexus_Canary said: I think 10 is generous given the bloke had half a Prem season. But I agree, if we are outside of the play offs after 10 Smith must go. I hope the board are already sounding out replacements. Im probably going to get hate for this but f**k it.Rus Martin - he knows the club, understands the club and knows what we want to achieve. This is just one of the similar comments from Swans fans tonight:- Having been at the match for 85 minutes because I walked out with thousands of others because this was c###. The players are like automatons. Coached like robots. Pass, pass, pass even if it's near the goal or in mid field. Get in the box, just keep on passing. This is awful. We will get relegated unless this changes. So boringly predictable. Utter bilge. A League 1 manager who had good PR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,128 Posted August 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: And if not within touching distance of the top 6 and looking like we're heading towards consistently good form, time to do a Watford. We do need to be ruthless. We do need our new signings to hit the ground running. But we don't need to pant wet, and we probably do need to deliver him a centre back before we can claim he's got all the required tools. I'm against sackings part way through a season, so I would simply say that if we're not promoted at the end of the season he goes, but until then, just get behind them. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 858 Posted August 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Billyboybunters said: Who would people want?! Russ Martin in my view is to early in his managerial career, but who else would people want? The manager who I thought we should have turned to once we made the wrong decision to sack Farke. Knutson from Bodo Glimpt 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Billyboybunters said: Who would people want?! Russ Martin in my view is to early in his managerial career, but who else would people want? That chap who got a very poor Huddersfield team into the play offs perhaps? (Actually, see he's been picked up so that's a no go) Edited August 6, 2022 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted August 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Billyboybunters said: Who would people want?! Russ Martin in my view is to early in his managerial career, but who else would people want? The day we appoint Russ Martin as manager is the day to give in for anyone with any sense who supports NCFC. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,757 Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Issue is I don't think there's too many managers out there who could do a better job Literally anyone sick of looking at that dumpy little Brummies fat f@£ing face after yet another failure cant even beat Wigan Edited August 6, 2022 by The Real Buh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,757 Posted August 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: I'm against sackings part way through a season, so I would simply say that if we're not promoted at the end of the season he goes, but until then, just get behind them. Muuuuuuug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted August 6, 2022 1 minute ago, The Real Buh said: Literally anyone sick of looking at that dumpy little Brummies fat f@£ing face after yet another failure cant even beat Wigan I do worry that Villa went downhill when they lost John Terry and appointed Shakespeare, and whether John Terry was who the players really respected and played for. In fact, should we be worried that John Terry walked out on Dean Smith in the first place, wonder why he'd had enough? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted August 6, 2022 19 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: I'm against sackings part way through a season, so I would simply say that if we're not promoted at the end of the season he goes, but until then, just get behind them. Should have kept Neil Adams then and not appointed Alex Neil who took us up that same season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,757 Posted August 6, 2022 1 minute ago, TeemuVanBasten said: I do worry that Villa went downhill when they lost John Terry and appointed Shakespeare, and whether John Terry was who the players really respected and played for. In fact, should we be worried that John Terry walked out on Dean Smith in the first place, wonder why he'd had enough? Would you respect them? is Dean Smith a guy you “run through a brick wall” for? nah 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted August 6, 2022 1 minute ago, The Real Buh said: Would you respect them? is Dean Smith a guy you “run through a brick wall” for? nah He doesn't enthuse me at all, but I tend to judge by results, Lambert was always a boring c*nt save for the odd bit of passion on the touchline and a good fist pump now and again, but couldn't knock his results here. I do think that Smith came here on the rebound after losing his dream job, would have thought a 6 month world cruise to do a bit of healing and soul searching would have been in order before jumping back in the hot seat, it felt a bit odd to me that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Billyboybunters said: Who would people want?! Russ Martin in my view is to early in his managerial career, but who else would people want? Russ Martin does at least have a game plan, pass the socks of the ball make no head way, eventually give the ball away 6 yards out and concede soft goals. I can see the logic of wanting this Edited August 6, 2022 by Mullet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christoph Stiepermann 1,256 Posted August 6, 2022 I think we're going to spend most of this season floating up and down between 4th and 12th which means this debate will just go on and on. He'll never be in danger of being sacked but nobody will be happy either. I can just see us drawing too many games this year because we struggle to score goals and conceed cheap ones. We'll dominate most games and feel hard done by quite often, we'll probably smash a few teams on our day as well but I can't see us winning consistently with this team being less than the sum of it's parts. It'll be up to people to decide if that's because of the manager or the recruitment strategy, I lean towards recruitment being the problem as our attacking players just don't compliment each other so even if we got a better manager in I can't see us storming through this league. Might be better to let Smith have this one as we go through a transition and hope we can build a more coherent team next year. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,757 Posted August 6, 2022 1 minute ago, TeemuVanBasten said: He doesn't enthuse me at all, but I tend to judge by results, Lambert was always a boring c*nt save for the odd bit of passion on the touchline and a good fist pump now and again, but couldn't knock his results here. I do think that Smith came here on the rebound after losing his dream job, would have thought a 6 month world cruise to do a bit of healing and soul searching would have been in order before jumping back in the hot seat, it felt a bit odd to me that. Apparently he was on holiday post Villa sacking when Webber gave him a call out of the blue. he’s out of his depth, has no control over this team and should be sacked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted August 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Real Buh said: sick of looking at that dumpy little Brummies fat f@£ing face after yet another failure No need for that, stick to taking the **** out of the tea drinking, that's fair game - this is just poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,733 Posted August 6, 2022 30 minutes ago, yellowrider120 said: This is just one of the similar comments from Swans fans tonight:- Having been at the match for 85 minutes because I walked out with thousands of others because this was c###. The players are like automatons. Coached like robots. Pass, pass, pass even if it's near the goal or in mid field. Get in the box, just keep on passing. This is awful. We will get relegated unless this changes. So boringly predictable. Utter bilge. A League 1 manager who had good PR. Bet you can go back and find similar comments about Farke back in the beginning when it wasn’t quite working before it all clicked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary dwarf 221 Posted August 6, 2022 I would also say another 10 games then assess the situation, there was certainly some positives ,max,Kenny,and Todd played well ,Nunez and Sara had some good touches and will improve with time.but Gibson, pukki, rashica and gianoullis were poor which is a major concern.hernadez his usual self shows brilliance and crapness in equal measure.so the jury's out😃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,778 Posted August 6, 2022 31 minutes ago, Virtual reality said: The manager who I thought we should have turned to once we made the wrong decision to sack Farke. Knutson from Bodo Glimpt And if he says no which he would? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,757 Posted August 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said: No need for that, stick to taking the **** out of the tea drinking, that's fair game - this is just poor. this is unacceptable im just 100% right about this being unacceptable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted August 6, 2022 Agree with the OP. I think posters need to accept that Webber has entrusted Smith to turn things around. He's had pre season and he's now getting his first new signings through, we have to give him a bit of a fresh slate as well knowing that he's been afforded some additional rope. Calling for his head after 2 games is ridiculous and there is no realistic scenario where Webber would pull the trigger at this stage. The performances haven't been terrible by any stretch, I think most days we draw at Cardiff and win today - things haven't gone our way but the underlying play has still been of a team largely in control. I'm confident we'll start winning games soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 858 Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: And if he says no which he would? You his agent? We’re talking about a manager in the Norwegian league that has achieved all he can with his club and giving him the chance to take a previously relegated team back to the PL. There is no reason to believe he would turn us down Edited August 6, 2022 by Virtual reality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted August 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: And if not within touching distance of the top 6 and looking like we're heading towards consistently good form, time to do a Watford. We do need to be ruthless. We do need our new signings to hit the ground running. But we don't need to pant wet, and we probably do need to deliver him a centre back before we can claim he's got all the required tools. He has Sergent and Hugill who couldn't score in Amsterdam and Rashica who is crap and can't cross a ball without hitting it straight into a defender. You are right about one thing, one more signing from Webber and DS will have all the tools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,757 Posted August 6, 2022 This thread should be called “we’ve given up on Smith but don’t want to say it yet anonymous” I know you’ve all seen what I’ve seen. I know you are all ready to give up on this Aston Villa reject. Just one last push. You are all packed up ready to go, nearly at the gates now 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites