Channon’s Windmill 297 Posted July 31, 2022 With Hanley suspended, Gibson only just back from injury and not match sharp (hopefully) , Zimmerman sold the recurring tradition of square peg in round hole returns. Does Lungi drop back ?(nope..needed in midfield due to injuries) , Byram won’t be ready. Guess it could be a debut for Tomlinson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted July 31, 2022 Does feel like we are stretching ourselves too thinly in that spot. 3 established senior centre backs, a totally untested youngster and a couple of temporary stop gap options (one of which is extremely injury prone, the other we need in central midfield right now). Never more than a couple of injuries or suspensions away from being bare bones at the back, can hardly put it down to bad luck as it takes very little for something like this to happen- as we are already seeing… 1 game into the season… Didn’t see the harm in keeping Zimmerman around for another season, DITTO Rupp. Both would’ve been playing next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 314 Posted July 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, Channon’s Windmill said: With Hanley suspended, Gibson only just back from injury and not match sharp (hopefully) , Zimmerman sold the recurring tradition of square peg in round hole returns. Does Lungi drop back ?(nope..needed in midfield due to injuries) , Byram won’t be ready. Guess it could be a debut for Tomlinson. Believe me, he is not needed in midfield. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,655 Posted July 31, 2022 Scandalous to allow Zimmerman and Lees Melou go before replacements were lined up 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,365 Posted July 31, 2022 Can already hear the “wE NeEd tO gIVe tHeM tIMe tO gEl”’s coming now… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,169 Posted July 31, 2022 Imagine it has to be Sorensen if Gibson isn’t fit, Omobamidele and Tomkinson seems a tough ask for the two youngsters. Better keep McClean wrapped in cotton wool this week though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,160 Posted July 31, 2022 Drop lungi back into center half and play gibbs in midfield. Play tomkinson in the cup to give him 1st team experience. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,510 Posted July 31, 2022 Really does seem like every season we have a centreback injury crisis yet we never learn. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,160 Posted July 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Really does seem like every season we have a centreback injury crisis yet we never learn. But CC didn't you hear? We have a bloated squad and it needed trimming down, and how many players do we expect the club to have in the squad during the season for an eventuality that might not happen!? Imagine if Kenny picks up a knock in training this week too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,089 Posted July 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Really does seem like every season we have a centreback injury crisis yet we never learn. When you rely on sicknote Byram as defensive cover you know you'll be crossing your fingers and toes. Gibson's injury record hasn't been encouraging either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 513 Posted July 31, 2022 If Tomkinson is not ready to play, then the management / recruitment team need to hang their heads in shame. We have gone into a season without enough midfielders or centre backs for the third season running. I am disappointed about yesterday's result, but a single result is not a real indicator. If Tomkinson does not play, then questions are asked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,598 Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) Last season was the first that I can remember where we actually had cover at cb - but even that wasn’t enough due to a mixture of a injury and covid. In any season you are always relying on a modicum of fortune regarding injuries but can certainly help things along: having 3 centre backs + an untried youngster before needing to play people out of position is not a good start, but we’re told we aren’t looking for anyone in that role. For me, that is a big mistake. Edited July 31, 2022 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bristol Canary 16 Posted July 31, 2022 Tbh based on performances during pre-season I think I'd prefer Tomkinson over Zimbo anyway. Though lacking the experience he showed more composure on the ball, athleticism and pace than we've seen from Zimbo in the last year or so and really at some point we have to make sure there are these pathways for academy players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Branston Pickle said: Last season was the first that I can remember where we actually had cover at cb - but even that wasn’t enough due to a mixture of a injury and covid. In any season you are always relying on a modicum of fortune regarding injuries but can certainly help things along: having 3 centre backs + an untried youngster before needing to play people out of position is not a good start, but we’re told we aren’t looking for anyone in that role. For me, that is a big mistake. I actually have been in the "our squad was too big camp" but I really feel we make building a squad as difficult as possible. 3 GKs 5 CBs 4 full backs 5 central midfielders 4 wingers 3 attacking midfielders 3 strikers 27 players. Assuming some of them can act as back up or shift across you will be absolutely fine. Instead we seem to always have about 94 wingers and no centre back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,070 Posted July 31, 2022 i am a great believer in players for Natural positions so if your 1st teamer is out you move on to next then youth if needed to thats how you find younger players who rise to the challenge if they play well they keep the shirt after all the aged 1st teamer did not do very well yesterday 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
If wed kept Howie.. 187 Posted July 31, 2022 if only the transfer window hadn't slammed shut - we could have brought in a CB.. oh wait..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channon’s Windmill 297 Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, If wed kept Howie.. said: if only the transfer window hadn't slammed shut - we could have brought in a CB.. oh wait..... Signed and starting next week as per my post? We will see, not so sure. By the end of the window, I would really hope so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unhinged Canary 375 Posted July 31, 2022 This was all so predictable Stevie Wonder saw it coming.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted July 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Yellow Wal said: Believe me, he is not needed in midfield. And why is that. General opinion at the game that it was strange he was pulled when he was doing a good job making sure the two CBs had plenty of room to play. He looked calm, assured and strong in the tackle. One player who could say he played well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 314 Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, keelansgrandad said: And why is that. General opinion at the game that it was strange he was pulled when he was doing a good job making sure the two CBs had plenty of room to play. He looked calm, assured and strong in the tackle. One player who could say he played well. We obviously saw different games. I saw a defensive midfielder (presumably) who was lacking urgency who failed to close opposition players down swiftly and efficiently. His tackling was OK (once he got there) but his distribution was nothing special. He does not appear to give any of his fellow players any confidence in his game and leaves them worrying about his positional play. But still, he may be needed at centre back next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,598 Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, If wed kept Howie.. said: if only the transfer window hadn't slammed shut - we could have brought in a CB.. oh wait..... The problem is that we have been told by journos that we aren’t looking at getting in a new cb. That’s supposed to be direct from the club: we are looking at CM (Nunez) and possibly a winger. Hopefully they will review that plan. Edited July 31, 2022 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,365 Posted July 31, 2022 Is the “we didn’t have our best two Center backs so we need more time and the gelling and the time and the not his squad and the whatnot” the early excuse for next week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,338 Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) I remember back in 71/72 when we lost big Duncan Forbes to injury and really had no back up. Everything big Ron tried to cover for his absence didn't quite work, but somehow the other players on the pitch pulled together and the promotion chase was kept on track. If the rest of the current squad up their game, then as in 71/72, the temporary absence of a CB should not mean the end of our challenge. But is Deano up to Saunders style motivational skills to achieve this? That's my concern, not the lack of cover, but the lack of good management. Edited July 31, 2022 by shefcanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,893 Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Yellow Wal said: We obviously saw different games. I saw a defensive midfielder (presumably) who was lacking urgency who failed to close opposition players down swiftly and efficiently. His tackling was OK (once he got there) but his distribution was nothing special. He does not appear to give any of his fellow players any confidence in his game and leaves them worrying about his positional play. But still, he may be needed at centre back next week. I thought his distribution was fine. And OK, it may be an exaggeration to say 'he played well', but his performance definitely looked above several of our other players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 314 Posted July 31, 2022 50 minutes ago, canarybubbles said: I thought his distribution was fine. And OK, it may be an exaggeration to say 'he played well', but his performance definitely looked above several of our other players. I would agree with you in that to say 'he played well' would be an exaggeration but, unfortunately, I would also agree he may have been on a par or above some of our other players. That's a worry! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,071 Posted July 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Channon’s Windmill said: With Hanley suspended, Gibson only just back from injury and not match sharp (hopefully) , Zimmerman sold the recurring tradition of square peg in round hole returns. Does Lungi drop back ?(nope..needed in midfield due to injuries) , Byram won’t be ready. Guess it could be a debut for Tomlinson. The experienced Omobamidele will be guiding the youngster through the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,071 Posted July 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Monty13 said: Imagine it has to be Sorensen if Gibson isn’t fit, Omobamidele and Tomkinson seems a tough ask for the two youngsters. Better keep McClean wrapped in cotton wool this week though. Wrapped in cotton wool and stored in the attic for an emergency we hope never comes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,071 Posted July 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Newtopia said: If Tomkinson is not ready to play, then the management / recruitment team need to hang their heads in shame. We have gone into a season without enough midfielders or centre backs for the third season running. I am disappointed about yesterday's result, but a single result is not a real indicator. If Tomkinson does not play, then questions are asked. Makes you wonder how this is compatible with having a 'bloated squad' doesnt it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,169 Posted July 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Great Mass Debater said: Wrapped in cotton wool and stored in the attic for an emergency we hope never comes? He’s the only proven CM we have right now, and I realise how much of an issue that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,893 Posted July 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Monty13 said: Imagine it has to be Sorensen if Gibson isn’t fit, Omobamidele and Tomkinson seems a tough ask for the two youngsters. Better keep McClean wrapped in cotton wool this week though. OMG, we're praying that McLean doesn't get injured because we need him so badly. How low does this get? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites