Petriix 2,834 Posted July 30, 2022 What it looked like to me was an imitation of Farke's 4-2-3-1 by a coaching team who really don't understand the fundamental principles of how it's supposed to work. Sacking Farke is looking worse with each passing week. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,195 Posted July 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: Nothing up with Pukki. It's the cretin playing a formation that nullifies one of the most prolific strikers this league has ever seen. Like taking a Formula 1 car to race on an off road circuit. Nail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,759 Posted July 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: Nothing up with Pukki. It's the cretin playing a formation that nullifies one of the most prolific strikers this league has ever seen. Like taking a Formula 1 car to race on an off road circuit. Nailed it 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,246 Posted July 30, 2022 Season starts next week....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_ncfc 644 Posted July 30, 2022 From what we've seen from Dean Smith's tenure so far, it's hard to see us doing anything of note this season. We've got to give him time this season I suppose, but I haven't been impressed with anything from him in the 9 months as manager so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,633 Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: Season starts next week....... …we hope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,229 Posted July 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: Nothing up with Pukki. It's the cretin playing a formation that nullifies one of the most prolific strikers this league has ever seen. Like taking a Formula 1 car to race on an off road circuit. Is he nullifying him with the formation or do we just completely lack the players to utilise him? Only player in the squad that looks like he might be able to get the best out of Pukki to me is Dowel and he’s injured. Maybe Sinani but jury’s out. Pukki’s been feeding on scraps since we sold Buendia and I don’t see that changing without an addition or two capable of playing the balls he needs personally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,278 Posted July 30, 2022 Well I watched the first 40 mins and then had had enough.....So I closed my chrome book and took the dog for a walk.....It's going to be a long old season..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,219 Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Petriix said: What it looked like to me was an imitation of Farke's 4-2-3-1 by a coaching team who really don't understand the fundamental principles of how it's supposed to work. Sacking Farke is looking worse with each passing week. Sacrificed at the altar of proving the £30m wasn’t ‘pissed up the wall’. Rashica and Sargent were rightly substituted today for looking ineffectual in the second tier. Farke wasn’t to blame for our lack of corporate finance and corollary lack of competitiveness at the top level. Parma Edited July 30, 2022 by Parma Ham's gone mouldy 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
repman 634 Posted July 30, 2022 When you consider what their goal was, and the rest of the game, it is hard to believe we managed to lose it. On the flip side it's easy to see why we didn't win it either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredherring 136 Posted July 30, 2022 Oh my god get a grip you desperate bunch of whining saddoes. We lost to a deflected goal. Will happen to all teams. One game in. That's it. You're expecting instant success in an unrealistic way and setting Smith up to fail no matter what he does. Newsflash. This season we I'll lose some games, and every team will up their to beat us. Its truly pathetic watching the insane flip flopping of doom to ridiculous confidence and back again, from some posters within minutes. Grow and get a bloody grip, the club doesn't need fans like this right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarycop 204 Posted July 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said: Sacrificed at the altar of proving the £30m wasn’t ‘pissed up the wall’. Rashica and Sargent were rightly substituted today for looking ineffectual in the second tier. Farke wasn’t to blame for our lack of corporate finance and corollary for lack of competitiveness at the top level. Parma I agree. Both looked poor. I think we need a new CH and certainly when Max goes a couple of right backs. Wouldn't mind young Archer as well as Hugill ain't the answer. Early days but we need new blood in and old ****e out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted July 30, 2022 55 minutes ago, Captain Holt said: Listen mate don't throw that around. He's said nothing that deserves that. Disagree with him but come on, we were terrible and smith is now indefensible. Pukki comment was silly but christ. Well said mate. Hogesar can't handle the truth. So he turns on people. He was my first ignore. He is a blubbering bully boy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,246 Posted July 30, 2022 First time since 98 we haven't fielded a new signing in first game of the season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,246 Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, keelansgrandad said: Well said mate. Hogesar can't handle the truth. So he turns on people. He was my first ignore. He is a blubbering bully boy. Ran out of likes so 👍👍👍👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,735 Posted July 30, 2022 Had McLeans chance which hit the bar from the corner gone in, the rest of the game may have swung our way and panned out differently However whats concerning is that after that chance hit the bar I dont think we had another effort on goal...even in the 15 mins where we had an extra man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,314 Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, AJ said: Also let's be rationale, Cardiff are aiming for the playoffs this season they don't have a terrible squad Cardiff will get nowhere near the playoffs. They were rubbish, carried zero threat snd should have been beaten. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,633 Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: Cardiff will get nowhere near the playoffs. They were rubbish, carried zero threat snd should have been beaten. Quite so - I don’t think I’ll ever quite work out how we lost that game, they barely ever came into our half let alone with any threat to the goal. Krul must be wondering what happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,915 Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Inch High aka Inchy.. said: Why are you surprised ? Come on, back the manager and his style of play. He doesn't have a style of play. That's why many of us don't back him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,332 Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, All the Germans said: "Pukki looks finished". I despair, I really, really do. How do you manage to get dressed in the morning? Not a problem when you sit in front of a keyboard all day in T-shirt and pants 😉 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland Canary 76 Posted July 30, 2022 Sadly, the recruitment was poor last season. We are left to carry that burden as these players presumably will not be easy to shift. Of course Webber had an impossible task as we headed back to the PL but that legacy hangs large upon us. Only new investment can break our cycle of failure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Morriss 69 Posted July 30, 2022 We never lose to Cardiff. Won 7 out of the last 9 I think I heard. The fact we lost today is very telling, especially as Cardiff were $ hite last season and werent great today. 3 things I am convinced of now. Dean Smith lost the dressing room in December, there is no tactical gameplan being coached to the players on how to manufacture goalscoring opportunities and how to win games of football, and we should never have sacked Farke. At our level, and the self funding thing Farke was perfect. He moulded Bundesliga f@#£&# 2 players into a Championship winning team for god's sake! Twice! Smith spent £300m at Villa and still got sacked. Clubs in a mess. We are a rudderless shop with no captain. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,116 Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Branston Pickle said: You think today was Smith’s fault? Why? It’s the exact XI literally everyone said they’d have played. The players badly underperformed, it has far more to do with them. First time since 1998/1999 season we have not had a single new player in the team on the opening game. The recruitment in the last three transfer windows has not been good enough. You can sack all the managers you want but if the person buying the failing players is still doing that... this squad is characterless, has no fight and no passion. It's a Glen Roeder type of nothingness. Edited July 30, 2022 by Kenny Foggo 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Morriss 69 Posted July 30, 2022 57 minutes ago, fredherring said: Oh my god get a grip you desperate bunch of whining saddoes. We lost to a deflected goal. Will happen to all teams. One game in. That's it. You're expecting instant success in an unrealistic way and setting Smith up to fail no matter what he does. Newsflash. This season we I'll lose some games, and every team will up their to beat us. Its truly pathetic watching the insane flip flopping of doom to ridiculous confidence and back again, from some posters within minutes. Grow and get a bloody grip, the club doesn't need fans like this right now. One game in? Instant success? Smith has been here since November 2021 pal. We've watched utter dross since, completely devoid of all the positive attributes we were treated to under Farke. Even during Farkes first season in the Prem we had some unbelievable moments. Man City, Leicester, Spurs in the cup. There wasn't one great moment under Smith after the lucky new manager bounce win in his first game when the Southampton keeper gifted us 2 goals, apart from perhaps Watford away, when they were at the worst. Sacking Farke in my opinion, which has been the same since the day he left, was a catastrophic error that we are paying for right now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Morriss 69 Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: First time since 98 we haven't fielded a new signing in first game of the season... Its a funny one but I think we are actually in a fairly unique position this year squad wise. We sent out a lot of good championship players on loan, who we know can perform at this level, and which we welcomed back. So they kind of were new squad additions for this season. Hugill, Hernandez, Cantwell and Sinani, plus Gibbs and the returning Idah and Andy, all weren't in the picture last season. And all I think walk into most champ teams. For me we didn't need to do any more business than we already have, with Hayden, Sara and hopefully Nunez. If they were fit they probably would have played today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,016 Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) I actually despise Dean Smith. It's a Bryan Gunn situation again In that you can't really blame the bloke for taking the job offered but Jesus Christ. Whoever made the decision to hire him off the back of farke (Webber?) Needs a new job Edited July 30, 2022 by Nexus_Canary 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, fredherring said: Oh my god get a grip you desperate bunch of whining saddoes. We lost to a deflected goal. Will happen to all teams. One game in. That's it. You're expecting instant success in an unrealistic way and setting Smith up to fail no matter what he does. Newsflash. This season we I'll lose some games, and every team will up their to beat us. Its truly pathetic watching the insane flip flopping of doom to ridiculous confidence and back again, from some posters within minutes. Grow and get a bloody grip, the club doesn't need fans like this right now. Did you watch it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wheres my rebate gone? 85 Posted July 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Branston Pickle said: It’s not often I’m lost for words, but how did we manage to lose today? Cardiff had literally no threat the entire game, but somehow we manufactured a defeat from it. That’s utterly ridiculous. It is 100% down to us playing down to their level like amateurs in the second half…but even then they spent literally no time in our half. But but Smith is really good!!!!! Oh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,735 Posted July 30, 2022 Smith offered an air of 'everything's on course and going to plan" throughout pre season when people could see it clearly wasnt Emperors new clothes We havent looked good at all in pre season, even at kings lynn we couldnt impose an attacking style , the 2 games in Scotland last week, we wouldnt have scored in either if we were still playing now People may dismiss pre season but its a time to hone a system and style of play to take into the season....and guess what, we've carried this non entity into that today Now the only exception to the above was the Marseille game where we got wingers out wide and got crosses into Hugill . Maybe thats the way to go...442 Pukki and Hugill up front? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,985 Posted July 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Canary Wundaboy said: Because we have no creativity. It’s the same problem from last season. You can’t simply stick Pukki up front and expect goals to happen, he needs supply off the shoulder and the midfield need to progress the ball forwards quickly and with intent. Rashica and Sargent did absolutely nothing today. I’d replace them both next game, no question. All of that ^, courtesy of a clueless Head Coach and a DoF 18 months past his sell by date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites