Kit tomorrow

[The Real Buh 3,432]

Ed Balls “Now I know you’re all here for the release of the new kit but we’re actually here for something far greater…. AIDs, remember AIDs?”

“Ladies and gentlemen, Mister Elton John!…”

[The Real Buh 3,432]

Btw bait and switching an already frustrated fanbase like this on a serious matter, after the paintball pride fiasco… Is mister Magoo running NCFC public relations? 

Morons

[A Load of Squit 5,160]

Great work. 

 

[hogesar 9,657]

1 hour ago, sonyc said:

Two million paying for professional services helping people not killing themselves would be a game changer actually. In fact, probably funding organisations to support people for a year would save and enrich over a hundred lives. That is an under-estimate.

Prevention through awareness campaigns is very important but the main issue is funding and investment in services.

I ought to know as it was my specialism over 20 years @hogesar - further, I  realise my opinion here, even if an informed one, is not more important - nor might I be in the majority. But I couldn't just leave that comment about "throwing money" because I feel that is disrespectful actually. I don't think charities either would agree. 

 

I mean the amount I gave was a random figure, % of sales from shirts would be much less, since the club already gets a reduced % of the money from shirt sales already.

Of course money is important to charities but I was quoting an OP who basically said if the club didn't donate a load of money it would simply be virtue signalling. That's not correct at all, the exposure a club like ours can give with its huge fanbase and social media following can be just as important.

[TheGunnShow 5,937]

8 minutes ago, hogesar said:

I mean the amount I gave was a random figure, % of sales from shirts would be much less, since the club already gets a reduced % of the money from shirt sales already.

Of course money is important to charities but I was quoting an OP who basically said if the club didn't donate a load of money it would simply be virtue signalling. That's not correct at all, the exposure a club like ours can give with its huge fanbase and social media following can be just as important.

Yep, and I'd be all up for mental health charities being on the shirts somewhere, or the training kit. We've got form for that in the past.

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

I looked at the video and it's well done. Initially I thought that yet again, they'd massively got it wrong but we can wait 48 hours for a new kit and it's an important message. If it saves one life, job done.

[Dean Coneys boots 1,400]

3 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

I looked at the video and it's well done. Initially I thought that yet again, they'd massively got it wrong but we can wait 48 hours for a new kit and it's an important message. If it saves one life, job done.

I don’t think anyone has a beef against the cause. It’s the bait and switch silly mind games which grate given the lack of activity and positivity around the club at present. My boys saw the ad and were really excited about getting home from school and seeing the new kit- little hopes will be dashed for what? A silly stunt 

[Feedthewolf 4,846]

3 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

I don’t think anyone has a beef against the cause. It’s the bait and switch silly mind games which grate given the lack of activity and positivity around the club at present. My boys saw the ad and were really excited about getting home from school and seeing the new kit- little hopes will be dashed for what? A silly stunt 

Perhaps you'd like to watch this video, and then tell Holly that it's a 'silly stunt'? Have a bit of compassion, for crying out loud.

 

[Jim Smith 2,317]

Mental health is an important issue. No problem with the club wanting to raise awareness. But they also know full well that (regardless of whether it’s important in the grand scheme of things) a lot of fans have been eagerly awaiting the new kits.

I just don’t agree with the clubs social media accounts toying with the fans like that. Combine the message with the kit launch if you want to use the “hook.” Don’t stage a fake kit launch to get hits. 

[Jim Smith 2,317]

4 hours ago, Feedthewolf said:

Then how can you think it's a bad idea to get this vital message to as wide an audience as possible? Surely it's a good thing if it helps people like you and me to discuss it? Did you feel nothing when you saw that shot of 500+ NCFC scarves on seats to represent all the people in our region who have taken their own lives?

Totally understand that some people will be frustrated/disappointed/annoyed (I look forward to the new kit launch as much as anyone), but using the kit launch as a platform means that many thousands of people will see this video who otherwise would probably have ignored it/not seen it/glossed over it.

I wish you all the best with your mental health, by the way – I've suffered with depression and anxiety my whole adult life. OTBC.

They haven’t used the kit launch though. They haven’t launched the kit. They faked a kit launch. Why not just launch the kit at the same time? 

[Feedthewolf 4,846]

Just now, Jim Smith said:

They haven’t used the kit launch though. They haven’t launched the kit. They faked a kit launch. Why not just launch the kit at the same time? 

Because then it would dilute the impact of both things.

[cambridgeshire canary 6,698]

So is this all a part of Webbers 'upcoming exciting news'? I think we are all still waiting for it..

[Mason 47 1,376]

6 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

Because then it would dilute the impact of both things.

Therein lies the reason that we don't reveal the kit and a new signing in the same release, as people think we're going to do every summer for some reason.

However, it still remains that they got the right pieces together here but didn't quite assemble them effectively. It's a nearly-not-quite moment.

 

[Jim Smith 2,317]

11 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

Because then it would dilute the impact of both things.

I’m sorry I just don’t agree they needed to trick the fans as they did.

it’s a powerful video and a worthwhile campaign. Had they got it out amongst our fanbase it would have spread equally well once word got out.

The PR/social media at the club is really poor at the moment. Obsessed with gimmicks whilst not always delivering the core product. 

 

[Feedthewolf 4,846]

Just now, Jim Smith said:

I’m sorry I just don’t agree they needed to trick the fans as they did.

it’s a powerful video and a worthwhile campaign. Had they got it out amongst our fanbase it would have spread equally well once word got out.

The PR/social media at the club is really poor at the moment. Obsessed with gimmicks whilst not always delivering the core product. 

It wouldn't have gained as much traction if it had just been released on its own merits.

It's not a gimmick, it's talking about real human beings, in this region, taking their own lives. It's using personal stories of the club's supporters and employees. It's a brilliant and bold thing for the club to do, although I accept that some of the poorer PR decisions in the last year have detracted from the way the message has been received by fans.

[A Load of Squit 5,160]

Beautiful.

 

[Nexus_Canary 1,016]

Bravo Norwich, really good post. 

[Nexus_Canary 1,016]

58 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

I don’t think anyone has a beef against the cause. It’s the bait and switch silly mind games which grate given the lack of activity and positivity around the club at present. My boys saw the ad and were really excited about getting home from school and seeing the new kit- little hopes will be dashed for what? A silly stunt 

Well I  for one feel that your boys hopes being dashed because they had to wait 48 more hours easily outweighs the loss of brothers, uncles, fathers and sons to suicide.
Praise Be you fu**king idiot.

[hogesar 9,657]

30 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

I’m sorry I just don’t agree they needed to trick the fans as they did.

it’s a powerful video and a worthwhile campaign. Had they got it out amongst our fanbase it would have spread equally well once word got out.

The PR/social media at the club is really poor at the moment. Obsessed with gimmicks whilst not always delivering the core product. 

 

OH NO, THE POOR FANS HAVE BEEN TAKEN FOR ABSOLUTE MUGS!

They'll have to wait 48 hours longer to see what proportion yellow / green a piece of fabric is.

I mean, that fans on here feel the need to even complain about this just shows that the club isn't going to win whatsoever with some 'fans' at the moment. It's a predetermined decision that whatever they do is wrong. 

[Capt. Pants 4,225]

44 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

So is this all a part of Webbers 'upcoming exciting news'? I think we are all still waiting for it..

Has not having a poxy shirt to look at disappointed you that much? 

[Nuff Said 5,118]

Anyone who thinks their need to see next season’s shirt is worth more than making this campaign impactful needs to take a good hard long look at themselves. 

[Walcombe canary 69]

Well done NCFC. From the heart. We lost a 23 year old colleague this year. See & speak to him every day. Suddenly gone. You wish you could have spoke to him more. Massive shock. You never know

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

4 hours ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

They? Are you referring to all 1.6 billion Catholics, a few rotten apples at the top? Help me out here. 

See King Canary's post above he understands even if you refuse to.

[Gordon Bennett 783]

I don't feel tricked, and if today prevents just one person from dying then it's a success.

The moaning and groaning is a shame but utterly predictable.

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

3 hours ago, hogesar said:

I made one joke about someone believing in a big guy up in the sky and pretty much got castigated for it. So i'll just say with the state of this forum, you might be best to opt-out @wcorkcanary, it's really not worth the hassle! 🙂

 

Oh yes it is Hoggo, the doctrines of the Catholic Church , adhered to in countless Hospitals and Schools around the world( funding=power) have led to all sorts of human rights abuse , including death. This is a fact.

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

1 hour ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

So is this all a part of Webbers 'upcoming exciting news'? I think we are all still waiting for it..

Normally would back you Cambridgeo, not this time, extremely smart bit of promotion, cost very little, got people talking, may well have an impact. Compare that to an opportunity to see/buy a ridiculously overpriced nylon rag.... Maybe you've never seen one in real life😜😜😇

Is your obsession with all things NCFC greater than your compassion for people in a bad place mentally?

 

[SFCanary 7]

Some of the replies in this thread just remind me why I left the UK 🤦‍♂️

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

4 minutes ago, SFCanary said:

Some of the replies in this thread just remind me why I left the UK 🤦‍♂️

😄 The UK is definitely a place that's better to be on the outside , pi55ing in , than on the inside pi55ing out .... That's how grim it is nowadays 😇😜

Waits ...

[GenerationA47 751]

19 hours ago, Pyro Pete said:

Not a Kit launch.

But a Kat launch.

After that you should take a bow and then have a break

[Orly 277]

6 hours ago, king canary said:

Going to immediately regret getting involved in this but there is a clear difference between criticising the institution of the Catholic Church as @wcorkcanary clearly did and criticising all Catholics.

That's one of my two criticisms answered.  Although unsatisfactorily for me, but such is life.

Something I didn't mention was I also didn't care for people stating 'facts' like they themselves are the arbiters of reality.  Particularly when making sweeping generalisations, whether referring to individual members of the religion or the institution of it as a whole - the distinction is practically irrelevant imo. 

I could easily (if so inclined, but I'm not) make exactly the opposite case and write 'FACTS' after it.

Anyways, it's sunny.  I'm off down the pub.  No hard feelings, I don't really do internet beef, because it's sh1t and pointless.

Edited June 28, 2022 by Orly