yellow_belly 226 Posted May 12, 2022 Well, the Soccerbot looks like money well spent. 😂 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,675 Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) Has it even been switched on yet? Thankfully we are getting a new swimming pool soon though so I'm sure that will do the trick Edited May 12, 2022 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,936 Posted May 12, 2022 Just now, cambridgeshire canary said: Has it even been switched on yet? Thankfully we are getting a new swimming pool so though so I'm sure that will do the trick What, chuck it in the pool? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,116 Posted May 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, yellow_belly said: Well, the Soccerbot looks like money well spent. 😂 Awesome.. wait until we have the £6 swimming pool... Could we combine the both? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Pete 1,889 Posted May 12, 2022 Goes to show no matter how good your training facilities are, it makes no difference if the players are sh*t to begin with. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,086 Posted May 12, 2022 Reminds me what a youth coach said to me years ago " that boy over there can juggle the football and do all the fancy tricks but can not play football on a pitch to save his life " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 623 Posted May 12, 2022 Although I maybe swimming against the tide here I will defend soccerbot. The club is trying to position itself as somewhere players improve particularly young players. (Yes I know). It is hard to sell the club as that if the training ground is a bunch of portacabins and some ploughed fields. That is where soccerbot and the pool come in. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,932 Posted May 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ulfotto said: Although I maybe swimming against the tide here I will defend soccerbot. The club is trying to position itself as somewhere players improve particularly young players. (Yes I know). It is hard to sell the club as that if the training ground is a bunch of portacabins and some ploughed fields. That is where soccerbot and the pool come in. Exactly my thinking. My first thoughts were "have the likes of Rowe, Springett etc. been using it?" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellow_belly 226 Posted May 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said: Awesome.. wait until we have the £6 swimming pool... Could we combine the both? A new leisure centre for the masses! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellow_belly 226 Posted May 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ulfotto said: Although I maybe swimming against the tide here I will defend soccerbot. The club is trying to position itself as somewhere players improve particularly young players. (Yes I know). It is hard to sell the club as that if the training ground is a bunch of portacabins and some ploughed fields. That is where soccerbot and the pool come in. I think that players come to a club if a) firstly, if you pay them enough b) we have potential to be successful and c) if we are successful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 623 Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, yellow_belly said: I think that players come to a club if a) firstly, if you pay them enough b) we have potential to be successful and c) if we are successful. I think it is more of if you are showing a 14 year old round the club with his parents who has choice of multiple academies across the south east of the country….. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,387 Posted May 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, Ulfotto said: I think it is more of if you are showing a 14 year old round the club with his parents who has choice of multiple academies across the south east of the country….. Fair enough, I see where you are coming from. Now, that other elephant in the corner, the extension / replacement of the City Stand. Surely that is a put off for most people? Given where the current environment at the Carra has reached an [all-time] low, can I suggest that moving forward with extension / replacement of the City Stand (properly financed of course so as not to impact on the playing squad) might just give everybody a lift and allow everyone to look forward to the future, irrespective of whether this is with Webber or not? It'll give Ms Ward summat to focus on in his absence. [Okay there will be innumerable old bor's who'll moan about being relocated to the South Stand but Tilly hasn't got that long to moan about it so .... 🙂😉 ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hertfordyellow 460 Posted May 12, 2022 Isn't the Soccerbot used in youth development more? it's a very weird thing to take issue with. Especially when it's clear you have no idea what role it has in player development and how long it takes to effectively improve a player. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Pete 1,889 Posted May 12, 2022 What if Soccerbot becomes sentient? 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,017 Posted May 12, 2022 10 hours ago, yellow_belly said: Well, the Soccerbot looks like money well spent. 😂 Perhaps they ought to try it in midfield against Wolves, cannot do any worse than Gilmour........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,409 Posted May 13, 2022 5 hours ago, hertfordyellow said: Isn't the Soccerbot used in youth development more? it's a very weird thing to take issue with. Especially when it's clear you have no idea what role it has in player development and how long it takes to effectively improve a player. Yeah, the main function is the cognitive development of young players over a medium to long period of time. Who knows if it's a gimmick or will actually be worth the money but the theory behind it seems sound. Of course, it's low hanging fruit so the Pinkun fires away. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 747 Posted May 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Pyro Pete said: What if Soccerbot becomes sentient? Next DoF solved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By Hook or Ian crook 917 Posted May 13, 2022 16 hours ago, yellow_belly said: I think that players come to a club if a) firstly, if you pay them enough b) we have potential to be successful and c) if we are successful. Just stick thought a and copy and paste 3 times. Money makes the world go round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hertfordyellow 460 Posted May 13, 2022 3 hours ago, KeiranShikari said: Yeah, the main function is the cognitive development of young players over a medium to long period of time. Who knows if it's a gimmick or will actually be worth the money but the theory behind it seems sound. Of course, it's low hanging fruit so the Pinkun fires away. Exactly. It features as regularly part of training to focus on specific player blind spots over a period of time. You don’t ‘do a soccerbot’ on Wednesday and it changes your game for Saturday. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted May 13, 2022 Remember when Webber said that Cantwell and Gilmour had the best scores... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
priceyrice 123 Posted May 13, 2022 The thing cost several million so I think it's a valid question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,387 Posted May 13, 2022 2 hours ago, priceyrice said: The thing cost several million so I think it's a valid question. I remember a figure of £750K being quoted at the time! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hertfordyellow 460 Posted May 13, 2022 5 hours ago, priceyrice said: The thing cost several million so I think it's a valid question. It cost 250K to set up and with licences, consultancy and maintenance, the full cost could be 750k 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 623 Posted May 13, 2022 Again if the state of the art facilities mean the next James Maddison, Todd Cantwell etc.. chooses us over Spurs or Arsenal then it has paid for itself….. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
percy varco 196 Posted May 13, 2022 Its part of our new world that revolves around Data. the Data that says Kenny is our best midfielder and that latest wonderful data expected goals🤬 football is 1 team putting the ball in another team’s goal not he ran further than him or he was expected to score 1.4 goals. what is .4 of a goal? fitness and technique win out everyday not some computergame to wow kids Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
repman 634 Posted May 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, percy varco said: Its part of our new world that revolves around Data. the Data that says Kenny is our best midfielder and that latest wonderful data expected goals🤬 football is 1 team putting the ball in another team’s goal not he ran further than him or he was expected to score 1.4 goals. what is .4 of a goal? fitness and technique win out everyday not some computergame to wow kids What data says that Kenny is our best midfielder? Also your understanding of expected goals seems quite a way off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hertfordyellow 460 Posted May 13, 2022 4 hours ago, percy varco said: Its part of our new world that revolves around Data. the Data that says Kenny is our best midfielder and that latest wonderful data expected goals🤬 football is 1 team putting the ball in another team’s goal not he ran further than him or he was expected to score 1.4 goals. what is .4 of a goal? fitness and technique win out everyday not some computergame to wow kids Yep. Let's just reject all modernisation while our competitors find more ways to find marginal gains. Just get them running up that hill and switch back to 4-4-2. Why are people so threatened by science? It's baffling. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,936 Posted May 13, 2022 Have we kept the receipt? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,456 Posted May 13, 2022 If Brentford had one everyone would be asking why we hadn’t invested in one and saying how we were behind other teams. Can’t win, literally at the moment 😁 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,936 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, FenwayFrank said: If Brentford had one everyone would be asking why we hadn’t invested in one and saying how we were behind other teams. Can’t win, literally at the moment 😁 Can’t even draw Frank, I’d take a point out the last 2 matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites