spencer 1970 207 Posted May 10, 2022 I was wondering if any of our true spotters would be able to tell me what team, or ground this is please?ย My grandad is one of the players, so judging by his look, the clobber and hairstyles,ย I'mย guessing early/mid 50's. ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,914 Posted May 10, 2022 No idea. Which one is Grandad and what was his name?ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,980 Posted May 10, 2022 Is that Albert Pierrepoint front row on the left? Strangeways FC perhaps?ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,275 Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) Looking online Fenstanton played in similar kit in the 50s.ย Cambridgeshire, though - is that a possibility? http://www.fenstanton-village.co.uk/old-fenstanton/old-photos-of-fenstanton/fenstanton-football-club-1950s-1-2/ Edited May 10, 2022 by Google Bot 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 637 Posted May 10, 2022 Is that the old River End CR ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy2600 301 Posted May 10, 2022 If you were to get a really good scan of the photo and clean it up in MS Paint and save as a JPEG you might want to do a Google Image Search. The chances that another relative of one of the players has put online somewhere are pretty small but you'll have endless hours of trawling through old football team photos.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,023 Posted May 10, 2022 I have been looking at this for a while this afternoon to no avail. Phoned my Dad who played for Boulton and Paul in the 1950s/60s and described the kit and stand, unfortunately it did not ring any bells with him. I do not think the picture was taken at Carrow Rd. I tried a Google image search but got loads of results. There looks to be a windsock on the right of the photo as you look at it. I will keep trying. I hope you find out who the team is and where the photo was taken and would be interested in knowing if you do find out, thanks for sharing........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,557 Posted May 10, 2022 58 minutes ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: I have been looking at this for a while this afternoon to no avail. Phoned my Dad who played for Boulton and Paul in the 1950s/60s and described the kit and stand, unfortunately it did not ring any bells with him. I do not think the picture was taken at Carrow Rd. I tried a Google image search but got loads of results. There looks to be a windsock on the right of the photo as you look at it. I will keep trying. I hope you find out who the team is and where the photo was taken and would be interested in knowing if you do find out, thanks for sharing........... I noticed that, and no buildings in view behind. I wondered if it was a seaside town ground. It has that coastal look to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Demeanor 67 Posted May 10, 2022 This kit seems to match, and the time frame seems to fit as well. The dark collar is on the other side, but I guess one of the images could have been reversed.ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย https://www.times-series.co.uk/news/13217399.east-barnet-old-grammarians-football-club-to-hold-grand-reunion-for-former-players/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Demeanor 67 Posted May 10, 2022 Socks match as well. ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,914 Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: I have been looking at this for a while this afternoon to no avail. Phoned my Dad who played for Boulton and Paul in the 1950s/60s and described the kit and stand, unfortunately it did not ring any bells with him. I do not think the picture was taken at Carrow Rd. I tried a Google image search but got loads of results. There looks to be a windsock on the right of the photo as you look at it. I will keep trying. I hope you find out who the team is and where the photo was taken and would be interested in knowing if you do find out, thanks for sharing........... You might be right but that looks small to be a windsock. Is it just a tear in the photo?ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,914 Posted May 10, 2022 This is the Firs speedway stadium in Norwich. It seems to have similar buildings to the one in the top left of the photo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Demeanor 67 Posted May 10, 2022 Another one with similar kit, they seemed to play in a higher league so the ground could be appropiate. ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Demeanor 67 Posted May 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: This is the Firs speedway stadium in Norwich. It seems to have similar buildings to the one in the top left of the photo That's a good shout, there is a wall and fencing behind the players, the wall looks very dirty, as a speedway track would look. Did they play footie at the speedway ground back in the day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,023 Posted May 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: This is the Firs speedway stadium in Norwich. It seems to have similar buildings to the one in the top left of the photo It is funny you thought of The Firs because I also thought it might be where the photo was taken. My Dad could not remember a team being based there, he has dementia but I hoped by talking to him I might trigger a memory. I did wonder if it was a military team, I will be speaking to my uncle later, he did his National Service at RAF St Faiths and see what he has to say........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,914 Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: It is funny you thought of The Firs because I also thought it might be where the photo was taken. My Dad could not remember a team being based there, he has dementia but I hoped by talking to him I might trigger a memory. I did wonder if it was a military team, I will be speaking to my uncle later, he did his National Service at RAF St Faiths and see what he has to say........ A military team is a possibility especially if National Service was still going.ย The matching kits may be a red herring. Local kits supplies havent changed much over the years. The suppliers around the country offered the same designsย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,914 Posted May 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Miss Demeanor said: That's a good shout, there is a wall and fencing behind the players, the wall looks very dirty, as a speedway track would look. Did they play footie at the speedway ground back in the day? God knows if they played football there but the picture doesn't look like Carrow Road and I can't think of any other stadiums locally.ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,275 Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) Could shout on the Firs, image from 1965 when they started to pull it down and that building looks very similar, and there's the step down on the right too. From here: http://www.defunctspeedway.co.uk/norwich.htm May actually have a read of all that later, as it's fascinated me incredibly - way before my time. Edited May 10, 2022 by Google Bot 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Horn (again) 131 Posted May 10, 2022 Definitely an interesting shout for the Firs Stadium - looks like it could be close to the first bend.ย Went there for the last two years before it closed down for both speedway and stock car racing (I was very young!!!).ย There was certainly a pitch in the middle at times but I can't ever remember it being the home of any specific club.ย Vague memories that it was used as a pitch by Hellesdon Secondary Modern before itย relocated from what is nowย Firside Schoolย to the current location of Hellesdon High at the other end of Middleton's Lane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy2600 301 Posted May 10, 2022 Canโt the poster at least give us a name?? And maybe a context??ย itโs like Ancestry.com without any clues at all ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐ณ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy2600 301 Posted May 10, 2022 Like a complete wind upโฆ a precious 3 hours youโll never get back. Like watching the last game of the season ๐คฃ๐๐ค๐ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 1970 207 Posted May 11, 2022 Thanks chaps, some gems there and the Speedway track could be a massive clue to what the team could be. Top darts fellas. My Grandad was Billy Pearce of W.E.Pearce butchers on Bishops Bridge Rd fame (if you remember that shop). He was a proper Norwich lad although was posted in Cambridge and married a Cambridge lass (Grandma) so the Fenstanton link could also be true too. He's front row, second left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 1970 207 Posted May 12, 2022 On 10/05/2022 at 22:24, Foxy2600 said: Like a complete wind upโฆ a precious 3 hours youโll never get back. Like watching the last game of the season ๐คฃ๐๐ค๐ Sorry to have upset you Foxy, its definately not a "wind up".ย I honestly know nothing about the team apart from its supposedly in Norwich and it was probably in the early/mid 50's. I can send you my Grandads family tree if you like, but I dont think that would help with finding out the team or ground. ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muffles 8 Posted May 12, 2022 A quick Google search of 'football played at the firs speedway norwich' has brought about the following links, which, suggest football was played on the ground, especially a line in one article about how the FA looked to ban football from being played on grounds which hosted Speedway or Greyhound meets....ย https://www.edp24.co.uk/lifestyle/shale-and-hearty-your-memories-of-the-stars-and-those-722426 https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/book-celebrates-norwich-speedway-star-ove-fundin-1723394 https://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/keithfarmanfileseasternspeedway.pdf ย ย ย 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wibble 109 Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) Dont know if this helps at all , a bit of a tidy up ย Edited May 12, 2022 by Wibble Better Pic 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 1970 207 Posted May 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Wibble said: Dont know if this helps at all , a bit of a tidy up ย Amazing Wibble, looks so much better!ย Bigย thanks! ๐ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 1970 207 Posted May 12, 2022 58 minutes ago, Muffles said: A quick Google search of 'football played at the firs speedway norwich' has brought about the following links, which, suggest football was played on the ground, especially a line in one article about how the FA looked to ban football from being played on grounds which hosted Speedway or Greyhound meets....ย https://www.edp24.co.uk/lifestyle/shale-and-hearty-your-memories-of-the-stars-and-those-722426 https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/book-celebrates-norwich-speedway-star-ove-fundin-1723394 https://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/keithfarmanfileseasternspeedway.pdf ย ย ย Thanks Muffles. I'll take a properย peruse this evening.ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duke63 542 Posted May 12, 2022 Definitely looks like it might be the same place in this video. ย ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 12, 2022 I believe its Michael Wynn Jones Celebrity XI who play most of their home matches away. I think they are all brothers although the goalkeeper was an only twin. They used to play harmonica at the Hippodrome and Michael met them at the launderette while washing Delia's smalls. The ground in the background is Northrepps Arena. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites