AJ 1,218 Posted July 26, 2022 MLS is generally a lot, lot slower than the championship. I've not seen him play but he'd probably need to bulk up to live with the physical demands. I'd imagine like Tzolis a tentative purchase for the future. Might be our next Maddison or Buendia, or could be our next Placheta or Tzolis 😅 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Angry 1,555 Posted July 26, 2022 I really can’t see how Ismael Kone gets the 15 points needed to get his GBE. The MLS is a Band 4 competition so he only gets 2 points through his recent appearances and another 6 points just for currently being in a Band 4 competition. He hasn’t played in enough internationals to get any points through that, so I reckon he only has 8 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YellowSubmarine 39 Posted July 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mr Angry said: I really can’t see how Ismael Kone gets the 15 points needed to get his GBE. The MLS is a Band 4 competition so he only gets 2 points through his recent appearances and another 6 points just for currently being in a Band 4 competition. He hasn’t played in enough internationals to get any points through that, so I reckon he only has 8 points. Any player u21 can qualify through appeal process Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted July 26, 2022 This kid looks promising. My only doubt would be whether he’s ready to make an impact now or is another one for “the future.” id like signings this summer to be ready to play now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channon’s Windmill 326 Posted July 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: This kid looks promising. My only doubt would be whether he’s ready to make an impact now or is another one for “the future.” id like signings this summer to be ready to play now. Agreed I would be happy if he signed, but again he looks one for the future and not a direct PLM replacement. Perhaps we are looking at a loan of a ready to go option for the here and now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,656 Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Terminally Yellow said: I think it's just them doing their job. Don't overthink it. Not quite - the simple fact for the pinkun is that they have lost their ‘in’ and in terms of rumours are largely reliant on posting links broken elsewhere, and far more of a ‘rehash’ of other peoples work. Which is a shame. This could be a good link, who knows right now. One thing is that Webber seems to have been clocking up the air miles and he/the club must have a pretty massive carbon footprint! Edited July 26, 2022 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,772 Posted July 26, 2022 An unproven kid that no sod has heard of from a poor league..... Right up our street, is he injured too?...... 😏 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,715 Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) Be nice to sign someone we have heard of and who has already proven themselves rather than 'hes a promising young lad might be good in a couple years..' Edited July 26, 2022 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,162 Posted July 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Be nice to sign someone we have heard of and who has already proven themselves rather than 'hes a promising young lad might be good in a couple years..' Cough - Isaac Hayden - cough. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,130 Posted July 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Be nice to sign someone we have heard of and who has already proven themselves rather than 'hes a promising young lad might be good in a couple years..' Would be nice to sign Haaland too. But it’s the same reason why we can’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rock bus 851 Posted July 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Be nice to sign someone we have heard of and who has already proven themselves rather than 'hes a promising young lad might be good in a couple years..' Because that worked so well with Naismith? and why on earth did we buy Buendia and Pukki...never heard of either of them -bit part players in minor leagues and Pukki couldnt even make it at Celtic...total waste of money 😉 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, AJ said: MLS is generally a lot, lot slower than the championship. I've not seen him play but he'd probably need to bulk up to live with the physical demands. I'd imagine like Tzolis a tentative purchase for the future. Might be our next Maddison or Buendia, or could be our next Placheta or Tzolis 😅 One thing that struck me from the (tiny) bits of video footage was his athleticism - the springy way he moves, which is present in a lot of top players. Doesn't mean anything in isolation of course, but he does look physically capable to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 783 Posted July 26, 2022 Our scouting and recruitment has always been pretty good at this level since SW arrived, have a bit of faith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,915 Posted July 26, 2022 51 minutes ago, ron obvious said: One thing that struck me from the (tiny) bits of video footage was his athleticism - the springy way he moves, which is present in a lot of top players. Doesn't mean anything in isolation of course, but he does look physically capable to me. Yes, but we seem obsessed with physicality now. Height, strength, muscle, stamina. I understand we have been a little lightweight at times but we seem to have gone to the other extreme and value physical attributes much more than ability to actually do something with a football at our feet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 94 Posted July 26, 2022 Kone can run 100m in 9.94 sec - is that quicker than Placheta? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
If wed kept Howie.. 208 Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Be nice to sign someone we have heard of and who has already proven themselves rather than 'hes a promising young lad might be good in a couple years..' yes, we certainly don't want any more "Buendia" types do we... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grando 260 Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Thirsty Lizard said: Cough - Isaac Hayden - cough. Don't tell me Hayden now has Covid! 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,604 Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Be nice to sign someone we have heard of and who has already proven themselves rather than 'hes a promising young lad might be good in a couple years..' Why would it be better to sign someone you've heard of? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Norfolk Mustard said: Kone can run 100m in 9.94 sec - is that quicker than Placheta? It's a different Ismael Kone 🙂 https://worldathletics.org/athletes/cote-divoire/ismael-kone-14849101 This guy was born in 2000, whereas the footballer was born in 2002 (pic of him below, taken from Transfermarkt). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 953 Posted July 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Mr Angry said: I really can’t see how Ismael Kone gets the 15 points needed to get his GBE. The MLS is a Band 4 competition so he only gets 2 points through his recent appearances and another 6 points just for currently being in a Band 4 competition. He hasn’t played in enough internationals to get any points through that, so I reckon he only has 8 points. Does he get any points for his appearances in the concacaf champions League? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Angry 1,555 Posted July 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, cornish sam said: Does he get any points for his appearances in the concacaf champions League? No, it’s a Band 3 continental competition-you have to play in at least 80% of the available minutes to get a point, he only played 65%. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Angry 1,555 Posted July 26, 2022 6 hours ago, YellowSubmarine said: Any player u21 can qualify through appeal process Well, not any player, only those with significant potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted July 26, 2022 31 minutes ago, Mr Angry said: No, it’s a Band 3 continental competition-you have to play in at least 80% of the available minutes to get a point, he only played 65%. I doubt we'd be trying to sign him if we didn't think he'd get a permit. We presumably must have got one for Sara as well and he's not even an international. I can't be bothered to try and work out the points as its all pretty complex. It looks to me like he might just fall short of the 15 needed for a guarantee (but I'm not sure how it all works with games he missed as he was injured etc) but as he's a Youth Player they can get an exemption provided they can show he's got "significant potential and is of a quality likely to enhance the development of the game" and you would think that if we are trying to sign him we are confident or have had a clear steer that the FA would grant such an exemption. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary dwarf 221 Posted July 26, 2022 5 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Be nice to sign someone we have heard of and who has already proven themselves rather than 'hes a promising young lad might be good in a couple years..' Yeah deffo , we make far too many of this promising young lad might be good in a couple of years signings, we need proven signings I accept this costs more.😃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted July 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Nuff Said said: Would be nice to sign Haaland too. But it’s the same reason why we can’t. Yeah, not proven or experienced in English football... 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted July 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Canary dwarf said: Yeah deffo , we make far too many of this promising young lad might be good in a couple of years signings, we need proven signings I accept this costs more.😃 It often costs more and the club gets less. It's pretty much the route to mid table championship mediocrity, (though I accept that our current strategy probably leads to yo-yoing mediocrity.) The players that have kept the club going (Maddison, Buendia, Godfrey) have been these up and coming signings. There's many that fell by the wayside but that's part and parcel of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted July 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Canary dwarf said: Yeah deffo , we make far too many of this promising young lad might be good in a couple of years signings, we need proven signings I accept this costs more.😃 We can’t afford those proven signings to a requisite level that is going to improve us. Look at the fees and wages Forest are paying for their premier league punts. Until we have our very own (alleged) drug kingpin bankrolling the club we have to hope enough of these punts will come off one day for us to scrape 17th before not enough come off to move us to championship mid table mediocrity. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,658 Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, king canary said: Why would it be better to sign someone you've heard of? When he says heard of, he means someone he hadn't heard of until Hull were interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nuff Said said: Would be nice to sign Haaland too. But it’s the same reason why we can’t. Well, Alfie's had his injuries in the past, but he could play defensive midfield. EDIT: I always thought Alfie was very underrated, but that's another story. Edited July 26, 2022 by TheGunnShow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted July 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: EDIT: I always thought Alfie was very underrated, but that's another story. Why don't you tell us what's it all about? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites