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13 hours ago, hogesar said:

I agree. But there's a lot of posters on here who don't have a moral compass, seemingly. 🙂

Have I been accused of having a moral compass. I have never been so insulted in my life 😂

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9 hours ago, Canaries north said:

Have I been accused of having a moral compass. I have never been so insulted in my life 😂

I think having a moral compass means that you are called a "virtue signaller" (by those without one, anyway).

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45 minutes ago, Badger said:

I think having a moral compass means that you are called a "virtue signaller" (by those without one, anyway).

"Virtue signaller" was one of the commonest - and stupidest - accusations thrown around here until the Ukraine war started.

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22 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

"Virtue signaller" was one of the commonest - and stupidest - accusations thrown around here until the Ukraine war started.

Yes, it has given me mild amusement to see so many "ant-virtue signallers" so desperate to "virtue signal" of late! 😁

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On 30/03/2022 at 14:17, PurpleCanary said:

I wish someone would draw up the rules about whether or not other clubs should be used as examples, because it is very confusing for a simple soul.

Some posters will say it is totally valid to compare us with Stinking Rich Other Club FC but in the next breath say they don't care about how other clubs do, and any comparison with the likes of Basket Case Other Club FC is irrelevant.

And even more confusingly if Stinking Rich Other Club turns out to be Basket Case Other Club then there is a strange case of collective amnesia.

I am also confused about which of the imaginary billionaires', that are interested in buying the club, imaginary offer Smith & Jones should have accepted

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On 30/03/2022 at 14:17, PurpleCanary said:

I wish someone would draw up the rules about whether or not other clubs should be used as examples, because it is very confusing for a simple soul.

Some posters will say it is totally valid to compare us with Stinking Rich Other Club FC but in the next breath say they don't care about how other clubs do, and any comparison with the likes of Basket Case Other Club FC is irrelevant.

And even more confusingly if Stinking Rich Other Club turns out to be Basket Case Other Club then there is a strange case of collective amnesia.

I think the rules amongst the hard-line fantasists are pretty clear actually Purple. There are 3 that I am aware of:

1. You must not doubt or deny that there is a long queue of billionaires fighting with each other to spend squillions and squillions on us if only the socialist cook would let them.

2. You must not doubt or deny that a change of owner automatically brings success or that all potential owners have nothing but good intentions. Any new player that we bought would be brilliant and we would not waste a penny under new owners. To even question what you would want from a new owner is to "look a gift horse in the mouth."

3. You must not doubt or deny that all other clubs are better run than City - they never buy  bad players, charge less, have better facilities and treat the fans better.

To break any of the above means that you a) lack ambition and b) are "an apologist." 🤮🤮🤮 The good news is that there is treatment for the condition but it does involve complicated surgery to remove parts of the frontal cortex of the brain. 😇

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1 hour ago, Badger said:

I think the rules amongst the hard-line fantasists are pretty clear actually Purple. There are 3 that I am aware of:

1. You must not doubt or deny that there is a long queue of billionaires fighting with each other to spend squillions and squillions on us if only the socialist cook would let them.

2. You must not doubt or deny that a change of owner automatically brings success or that all potential owners have nothing but good intentions. Any new player that we bought would be brilliant and we would not waste a penny under new owners. To even question what you would want from a new owner is to "look a gift horse in the mouth."

3. You must not doubt or deny that all other clubs are better run than City - they never buy  bad players, charge less, have better facilities and treat the fans better.

To break any of the above means that you a) lack ambition and b) are "an apologist." 🤮🤮🤮 The good news is that there is treatment for the condition but it does involve complicated surgery to remove parts of the frontal cortex of the brain. 😇

I would add a few.

4) The club has to be declared as being for sale because never in the history of capitalism has someone made an offer for a company that hadn't been put on the market.

5) Planning to leave the club to a relative is an unparalleled disgrace because never in the history  of capitalism has that ever happened.

6) Tom Smith must be useless as a potential owner despite it being apparent (certainly based on the absence of information or insight from posts here) that fans have little or no idea of his capabilities or possible lack of them.

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25 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

I would add a few.

4) The club has to be declared as being for sale because never in the history of capitalism has someone made an offer for a company that hadn't been put on the market.

5) Planning to leave the club to a relative is an unparalleled disgrace because never in the history  of capitalism has that ever happened.

6) Tom Smith must be useless as a potential owner despite it being apparent (certainly based on the absence of information or insight from posts here) that fans have little or no idea of his capabilities or possible lack of them.

To know this amount of detail you must have a Fantasists membership card, surely? 😁

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14 hours ago, Badger said:

I think the rules amongst the hard-line fantasists are pretty clear actually Purple. There are 3 that I am aware of:

1. You must not doubt or deny that there is a long queue of billionaires fighting with each other to spend squillions and squillions on us if only the socialist cook would let them.

2. You must not doubt or deny that a change of owner automatically brings success or that all potential owners have nothing but good intentions. Any new player that we bought would be brilliant and we would not waste a penny under new owners. To even question what you would want from a new owner is to "look a gift horse in the mouth."

3. You must not doubt or deny that all other clubs are better run than City - they never buy  bad players, charge less, have better facilities and treat the fans better.

To break any of the above means that you a) lack ambition and b) are "an apologist." 🤮🤮🤮 The good news is that there is treatment for the condition but it does involve complicated surgery to remove parts of the frontal cortex of the brain. 😇

 

12 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

I would add a few.

4) The club has to be declared as being for sale because never in the history of capitalism has someone made an offer for a company that hadn't been put on the market.

5) Planning to leave the club to a relative is an unparalleled disgrace because never in the history  of capitalism has that ever happened.

6) Tom Smith must be useless as a potential owner despite it being apparent (certainly based on the absence of information or insight from posts here) that fans have little or no idea of his capabilities or possible lack of them.

Pretty much summarises the debate on multiple threads on board in relegation seasons

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On 30/03/2022 at 14:16, TheGunnShow said:

Absolutely. Although such white papers only ever seem to be strong on paper ('arf) and probably get watered down in discussions. Would certainly agree with a notion that regulations need far more teeth.

Yeah it would be quite a big deal to not give someone a licence so I guess they will make it rare but if it scares clubs into acting a bit more responsibly (cough cough Brighton) then it will have done its job

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23 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

"Virtue signaller" was one of the commonest - and stupidest - accusations thrown around here until the Ukraine war started.

There have been several. "Woke" is a funny one... (wait, is the critic saying that they're asleep) and my personal favourite is "white knight". I mean, some degree of goodwill towards people is apparently seen as a BAD thing by these critics!

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On 30/03/2022 at 10:33, Big Vince said:

Indeed. The Delia apologists always come on here to excuse her despotic model on the grounds that other clubs are more undesirable for one reason or another. Beheadings, corruption, debt, etc.

Beheadings - Just 'one reason or another.'

... Good god, man. Get some perspective.

That's got to be the most staggeringly moronic statement I've ever seen on here in over a decade of reading.

And considering that this is the Pinkun forum, that's quite some going.

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16 hours ago, ? said:

Beheadings - Just 'one reason or another.'

... Good god, man. Get some perspective.

That's got to be the most staggeringly moronic statement I've ever seen on here in over a decade of reading.

And considering that this is the Pinkun forum, that's quite some going.

Well, this is the realm that football club ownership is now in and it all passes the "fit and proper" test so you will have to get used to it.

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1 hour ago, TheDarkKnight said:

You know what? It WAS Grand Old Team.

I just took a look and I couldn't find my posts anywhere on ToffeeTalk, then I checked Grand Old Team, and they were there.

I'm planning to log back into Grand Old Team and turn the knife, if/when they go down.

And yeah, I get how your co-worker feels. Such a horrible, hyena-like forum.

Even worse than Blue Moon that forum, let alone Red Cafe and that takes some doing.

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On 31/03/2022 at 10:50, PurpleCanary said:

"Virtue signaller" was one of the commonest - and stupidest - accusations thrown around here until the Ukraine war started.

Literally the only thing you can do on an internet message board is signal. It might as well be virtue.

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2 hours ago, TheDarkKnight said:

The worse of them all is one of the main Scotland forums. Seriously, it's like "Lord of the flies" in that place with their pack mentality. I don't wanna name it and give it free publicity.

Suffice to say, it's dying as newbies gets chased off and regular members log in and don't post. It's a weird place.

Redcafe is actually OK. I'm on there, too. No idea about Bluemoon, though.

That reminds me of a band forum the better half used to read without actually posting nor making an account. They like formed a little friendship group and hogged the front row at every gig the band played all while making silly little banners advertising their “fansite”.

They used to make petty insults at members of their official forum, called them “The dark side” and said things like “We’re better than them”. It was far too tight knit for its own good, all cliquy and the way female posters got all broody over the band members new born kids was sickening to say the least.

New members came along, then the regulars slowly left to a point it’s like a ghost town. It’s only when the band tour or release a new album, it actually gets going for like a week or two, then lies dormant again.

When the band’s official forum died in 2007 due to virus attacks, people migrated to that forum and they welcomed them, but they hardly keep in contact with them once the forum died. They actually loved the fact the official forum died, really childish and pathetic and there was a rule in which you had to keep on topic in the thread and if you went off, the “mods” got all lairy and deleted the posts in question. The way moderators got sucked up to the better half hated.

Don’t blame you at all for not wanting to mention that Scotland forum and give it free publicity and as you can see, I’m not doing the same here for the same purpose. They sound like a right bunch of arrogant tw@ts.

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On 01/04/2022 at 10:30, TheGunnShow said:

There have been several. "Woke" is a funny one... (wait, is the critic saying that they're asleep) and my personal favourite is "white knight". I mean, some degree of goodwill towards people is apparently seen as a BAD thing by these critics!

Do-gooder is my favourite.

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1 hour ago, Robert N. LiM said:

Do-gooder is my favourite.

Or indeed "virtue signalling".

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