Mullet 293 Posted January 26, 2022 Come on then Hugill supporters. When we were saying he was a waste of money and simply not good enough, you clappers were saying but but he needs more minutes and he is good for moral. Norwich sent him away to WBA where he has done nothing, NCFC have declined to take him back this window because he has done nothing at WBA. The Brummy fans are saying they would rather field 10 men than have him in the side. Anyone want to admit he was a complete waste of money that could have been wasted on someone else Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,680 Posted January 26, 2022 I could be morale office in the dressing room for £1500 a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 792 Posted January 26, 2022 I think the problem at West Brom is deeper than Jordan Hugill 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted January 26, 2022 Lovely lad but a very strange signing. 2 good seasons in his whole career but the rest have been woeful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deptford Yellow 295 Posted January 26, 2022 He was bangin’ ‘em in for QPR ….. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelm Canary 404 Posted January 26, 2022 There was an interview not long ago with a former team mate of Hugill who said he was basically a Sunday league striker but so eager to learn and a nice guy. That's not enough to cut it though really is it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,202 Posted January 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: I could be morale office in the dressing room for £1500 a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted January 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, Chelm Canary said: There was an interview not long ago with a former team mate of Hugill who said he was basically a Sunday league striker but so eager to learn and a nice guy. That's not enough to cut it though really is it. There's basically an entire article about how its remarkable he made it as a footballer on the Athletic https://theathletic.com/2831879/2021/09/17/jordan-hugill-the-unlikely-footballer-who-will-play-leading-role-for-west-brom-on-and-off-the-pitch/ “He was the most unfit player I’ve ever seen, apart from a goalkeeper,” the former Port Vale manager tells The Athletic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,797 Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: There's basically an entire article about how its remarkable he made it as a footballer on the Athletic https://theathletic.com/2831879/2021/09/17/jordan-hugill-the-unlikely-footballer-who-will-play-leading-role-for-west-brom-on-and-off-the-pitch/ “He was the most unfit player I’ve ever seen, apart from a goalkeeper,” the former Port Vale manager tells The Athletic. 30 minutes ago, Chelm Canary said: There was an interview not long ago with a former team mate of Hugill who said he was basically a Sunday league striker but so eager to learn and a nice guy. That's not enough to cut it though really is it. I probably should not be laughing at this should I? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted January 26, 2022 2008–2009 Seaham Red Star 2009–2010 Consett 2011 Jerez Industrial 15 (2) 2011–2012 Whitby Town 2012 → Marske United (loan) 2013–2014 Port Vale 20 (4) 2013 → Gateshead (loan) 7 (5) 2014–2018 Preston North End 103 (23) 2015 → Tranmere Rovers (loan) 6 (1) 2015 → Hartlepool United (loan) 8 (4) 2018–2020 West Ham United 3 (0) 2018–2019 → Middlesbrough (loan) 37 (6) 2019–2020 → Queens Park Rangers (loan) 39 (13) 2020– Norwich City 31 (4) 2021– → West Bromwich Albion (loan) 20 (1) A few clues here we were wasting millions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,797 Posted January 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: 2008–2009 Seaham Red Star 2009–2010 Consett 2011 Jerez Industrial 15 (2) 2011–2012 Whitby Town 2012 → Marske United (loan) 2013–2014 Port Vale 20 (4) 2013 → Gateshead (loan) 7 (5) 2014–2018 Preston North End 103 (23) 2015 → Tranmere Rovers (loan) 6 (1) 2015 → Hartlepool United (loan) 8 (4) 2018–2020 West Ham United 3 (0) 2018–2019 → Middlesbrough (loan) 37 (6) 2019–2020 → Queens Park Rangers (loan) 39 (13) 2020– Norwich City 31 (4) 2021– → West Bromwich Albion (loan) 20 (1) A few clues here we were wasting millions. Quite a remarkable rise from non leaue to the Championship and Prem mind.. Quite a big jump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 3,219 Posted January 26, 2022 There are some seemingly contradictory facts. We had a bunch of fairly 'average' players around the fringes of the team in the Championship last season. However, as a squad, they achieved the best results in the club's history. I have no idea how significant Hugill's contribution was. He certainly didn't do a great deal on the pitch, but seemed to have a big personality in the dressing room. Perhaps he was just a good fit for Farke because he worked hard and did what was asked of him. I don't see what bringing him back would achieve now. His utility this season would have been solely in negating the need to sign Sargent thus freeing some funds for a CDM. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted January 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Quite a remarkable rise from non leaue to the Championship and Prem mind.. Quite a big jump. Any of us would take that career wouldn't we. Completely shocked that he's gone to West Ham for £8m and Norwich for £5m though, must have the best agent in football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted January 26, 2022 A league 1, Lower Championship player (Rotherham, Wycombe etc) at best. Why does anyone think we signed him in all seriousness? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,149 Posted January 26, 2022 It’s an interesting idea that people are/were ‘Hugill supporters’, rather than supporting our club and wanting that club and its players to do well, but there you go. He was bought to give us a different option, and played his part in our best ever season…why can’t it be left at that, rather than trying to make up some sort of confrontation about something that doesn’t exist. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: It’s an interesting idea that people are/were ‘Hugill supporters’, rather than supporting our club and wanting that club and its players to do well, but there you go. He was bought to give us a different option, and played his part in our best ever season…why can’t it be left at that, rather than trying to make up some sort of confrontation about something that doesn’t exist. If he’d been a free transfer on very average wages you’d have a point. Do you think any club would pay a fee for him now? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 7,377 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Like most strikers who weren't Pukki, he didn't quite fit the team as well, so Pukki's halo effect invariably makes them all look worse. I do think people forget how quickly Pukki settled in and then pretty much didn't stop banging in goals. That pretty much saw off Srbeny and indeed stifled Idah's development to some extent. Ultimately, Hugill was bought as a plan B so the team was not remotely built around him and his strengths to the same extent as Pukki. Sure, the purchase of Placheta hinted at getting out wide and floating some crosses in for him to attack but he was bought to hold up the ball and give Pukki breathers. If he got a few goals at the same time then even better. However, there's not too much need for Plan B if Plan A kept working, so this also meant Hugill didn't get many games. Hard to come into a team and score right away when you're not getting games, and especially when you're mainly an aerial threat in a team that was built to put it on the deck. Idah's emergence over the last few games is potentially rendering him surplus to requirements now. Edited January 26, 2022 by TheGunnShow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,149 Posted January 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: If he’d been a free transfer on very average wages you’d have a point. Do you think any club would pay a fee for him now? Oddly enough. you quote me but none of what you said has anything at all to do with what I wrote, which was in short: a) he was bought as another option b) he played his part in our best ever season c) I have never seen a ‘Hugill supporter’, whatever that is. I think some people get confused by those of us who support the team and want players do do well, rather than finding a new stick to beat the club with all the time. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: Oddly enough. you quote me but none of what you said has anything at all to do with what I wrote, which was in short: a) he was bought as another option b) he played his part in our best ever season c) I have never seen a ‘Hugill supporter’, whatever that is. I think some people get confused by those of us who support the team and want players do do well, rather than finding a new stick to beat the club with all the time. He cost £5m inclusive of add ons plus a few million in wages? Played a very minor part in a successful year.We can all point out the gems signed but he was a strange one who’s never really scored goals anywhere. Basically one we got wrong and not that cheap too (for the model) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted January 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: It’s an interesting idea that people are/were ‘Hugill supporters’, rather than supporting our club and wanting that club and its players to do well, but there you go. He was bought to give us a different option, and played his part in our best ever season…why can’t it be left at that, rather than trying to make up some sort of confrontation about something that doesn’t exist. I'm just having a bit of banter with those that thought 5 million on Hugill wasn't a disaster and that he contributed something to the club. Terrible research into the player and subsequent signing, terrible waste of money that could have been spent elsewhere. The main light hearted dig is to those that thought a person who could joke around a bit was what we need in order to be a successful side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 3,086 Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Petriix said: I don't see what bringing him back would achieve now. His utility this season would have been solely in negating the need to sign Sargent thus freeing some funds for a CDM. Not even that. Sargent offers far more, the games we have won since Smith's arrival have heavily involved him. He came on at half-time Vs Southampton and took the game by the scruff of the neck with his positivity. Utterly changed the picture of the game. He then put in a hard low ball that led to an own goal followed by scoring a brace in the next game. That's without mentioning a brace against Bournemouth. Difference in price? £3m. Difference in quality... double that. At this moment in time, our two best wide attacking threats at the club have been Rashica and Sargent, by some distance. Hugill would have been third choice striker and we would have seen Idah on the wing. Yet, with Idah given more time up front, he seems to be gaining more form and consistency. Funny that. As I said in another thread. As much as people want to complain, we still pay relatively low amounts for players, as others have said, likely to be low wages too. £8m these days is very good championship striker money, if you are in the championship. Asombalonga and Rhodes moved for that sort of money for example. You need double that to get a proven championship striker. Normann was to be the CDM, and bar his injury, has been good. CM balance has been our problem along with creating and taking chances. We can't make the ball stick up front, nor have we stuck it away when we have had the opportunity to do so. When you play against a team like that, you gain confidence in their inability to hurt you, you push on more, you know you can leave it to your defenders. You can take more chances attacking yourselves. Edited January 27, 2022 by chicken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelm Canary 404 Posted January 27, 2022 He must be the only non player that's charmed himself into playing in modern day premier League and championship football. He isn't a footballer but has pulled something off quite spectacular Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 551 Posted January 27, 2022 Hi rates among the worst signings this club have ever made whoever decided on him joining this club Money completely wasted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Mullet said: Come on then Hugill supporters. When we were saying he was a waste of money and simply not good enough, you clappers were saying but but he needs more minutes and he is good for moral. Norwich sent him away to WBA where he has done nothing, NCFC have declined to take him back this window because he has done nothing at WBA. The Brummy fans are saying they would rather field 10 men than have him in the side. Anyone want to admit he was a complete waste of money that could have been wasted on someone else I thought you'd given this up after claiming Hugill was better than Sarge... 🙃 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,951 Posted January 27, 2022 Lovely bloke, but time to get a club in League 1 he can consistently lead the line! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 11,136 Posted January 27, 2022 There are some stupid posts on here but an overly aggressive OP about one of our players simply to cause an argument is up there. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul101 190 Posted January 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Mullet said: Come on then Hugill supporters. When we were saying he was a waste of money and simply not good enough, you clappers were saying but but he needs more minutes and he is good for moral. Norwich sent him away to WBA where he has done nothing, NCFC have declined to take him back this window because he has done nothing at WBA. The Brummy fans are saying they would rather field 10 men than have him in the side. Anyone want to admit he was a complete waste of money that could have been wasted on someone else It was also clearly documented that we have no recall clause Westbrom have paid and are paying a lot of money for Hugil so dont use that part to beat the club from what I can gather he is making up money on that deal as for if he was a waste of money he contributed to our promotion and gave us that extra opion up from to chuck on the pitch but going by the ops last sentence it doesnt matter who we sign he will belittle the club and run it down due to his own agenda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted January 27, 2022 Another James Husband- a player who is simply out of his depth in the championship and will need to find a club in L1 or L2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,960 Posted January 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Mullet said: I'm just having a bit of banter with those that thought 5 million on Hugill wasn't a disaster and that he contributed something to the club. Terrible research into the player and subsequent signing, terrible waste of money that could have been spent elsewhere. The main light hearted dig is to those that thought a person who could joke around a bit was what we need in order to be a successful side. Your OP doesn’t come across to me as banter, or several other posters. Starting with “Come on” sounds like you’re looking for a fight and using the word “clappers” is hardly conciliatory. It’s almost as if, now we’ve won two games on the bounce, that you can’t find anything to complain about currently, so you’re forced to start raking through recent history to find something to argue about. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,762 Posted January 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Branston Pickle said: Oddly enough. you quote me but none of what you said has anything at all to do with what I wrote, which was in short: a) he was bought as another option b) he played his part in our best ever season c) I have never seen a ‘Hugill supporter’, whatever that is. I think some people get confused by those of us who support the team and want players do do well, rather than finding a new stick to beat the club with all the time. I mean for what, £5 million - just being able to fill in for Pukki and get us a couple of important goals which led to our title makes him worth the fee alone. You've got to laugh how it's the same posters who always want us "to take a risk", "have a gamble", "speculate to accumulate" on transfers every season, then are the first to complain if it goes wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites