As Boris has done it at last

[Yellow Wal 315]

can we now expect an apology from Mr Webber for the appalling recruitment during the summer?

[Petriix 3,219]

Webber will probably claim he didn't know it was a transfer window.

In any case, the breach of Covid rules is nothing compared to the complete mismanagement of the economy and the shambles that it brexit. His party have more than doubled the national debt in 12 years, we've got the highest inflation in 30 years including energy prices more than doubling in less than 6 months.

While Webber has clearly made mistakes, he's obviously trying his best. BJ and his party on the other hand don't give a f*ck about you and me, they're all rich so it doesn't affect them.

Edited January 13, 2022 by Petriix

[Capt. Pants 5,009]

11 minutes ago, Yellow Wal said:

can we now expect an apology from Mr Webber for the appalling recruitment during the summer?

An acknowledgement he got it pathetically wrong might help. The fact he got it pathetically wrong is the issue.

[Dr Greenthumb 793]

Why? it’s the fans fault

[Nora's Ghost 157]

37 minutes ago, Petriix said:

Webber will probably claim he didn't know it was a transfer window.

In any case, the breach of Covid rules is nothing compared to the complete mismanagement of the economy and the shambles that it brexit. His party have more than doubled the national debt in 12 years, we've got the highest inflation in 30 years including energy prices more than doubling in less than 6 months.

While Webber has clearly made mistakes, he's obviously trying his best. BJ and his party on the other hand don't give a f*ck about you and me, they're all rich so it doesn't effect them.

Isn't there a section elsewhere for left wing political spume?

[Petriix 3,219]

4 minutes ago, Nora's Ghost said:

Isn't there a section elsewhere for left wing political spume?

Nothing left-wing about wanting the government to look after the economy rather than unlawfully handing out billions in contracts to their mates. It's a bit like signing Naismith over and over again. 

[Mello Yello 2,572]

51 minutes ago, Yellow Wal said:

can we now expect an apology from Mr Webber for the appalling recruitment during the summer?

More chance of finding Saddam's WMD's and gluing Sir Anthony Charles Lynton Blair's 'accidentally' shredded expenses back together....

Just puttin' a bit o' politics balance in there....

[Badger 2,745]

1 minute ago, Petriix said:

Nothing left-wing about wanting the government to look after the economy rather than unlawfully handing out billions in contracts to their mates.

I'm not sure about this? It has been a consistent theme of right wing govts to use patronage for the benefit of their friends and allies - Johnson didn't invent this.

[hogesar 10,764]

I'm not sure it would do the confidence of the new signings much good if he came out and apologised for signing a load of rubbish in the summer.

[Petriix 3,219]

Just now, Badger said:

I'm not sure about this? It has been a consistent theme of right wing govts to use patronage for the benefit of their friends and allies - Johnson didn't invent this.

Yes, but being opposed to it doesn't make one 'left-wing'. I believe in a good balance between sensible government spending and reasonable freedom for individuals and SMEs to do what they want. I'm more progressive/liberal than left-wing. 

[Yellow Wal 315]

14 minutes ago, hogesar said:

I'm not sure it would do the confidence of the new signings much good if he came out and apologised for signing a load of rubbish in the summer.

"I am sorry I recruited all younger players and now feel it would have been better had I also included some more experienced players amongst the new signings."

No names, let them work it out for themselves. Perhaps they, individually, will believe they are good signings.

[Badger 2,745]

15 minutes ago, Petriix said:

Yes, but being opposed to it doesn't make one 'left-wing'. I believe in a good balance between sensible government spending and reasonable freedom for individuals and SMEs to do what they want. I'm more progressive/liberal than left-wing. 

Again, I'm not sure about this. Being opposed to privilege and patronage is the foundation of left-wing thought.

Progressive is left-wing: liberal is not.

[TheGunnShow 7,377]

I opened this thread wondering to see if the bouffant-haired cretin had resigned (meaning Johnson), or shot himself, or something. Sadly, I have to be disappointed.

Edited January 13, 2022 by TheGunnShow

[Worthy Nigelton 1,301]

24 minutes ago, Badger said:

Again, I'm not sure about this. Being opposed to privilege and patronage is the foundation of left-wing thought.

Progressive is left-wing: liberal is not.

I'm not sure what he is saying can be described as left wing. Being against contracts for your mates could also be argued to be the antithesis of right wing economics, in that the market should decide.

[PurpleCanary 6,386]

1 hour ago, Yellow Wal said:

can we now expect an apology from Mr Webber for the appalling recruitment during the summer?

Johnson has told MPs privately his 'apology' was a fake and he believes he'd done nothing wrong. Is that the kind of 'apology' you want from Webber?🤓

[shefcanary 2,955]

1 hour ago, Mello Yello said:

More chance of finding Saddam's WMD's and gluing Sir Anthony Charles Lynton Blair's 'accidentally' shredded expenses back together....

Just puttin' a bit o' politics balance in there....

Not really, Blair was more right wing than Boris!

[Mello Yello 2,572]

Just now, shefcanary said:

Not really, Blair was more right wing than Boris!

'Tell it to the Marines'.....

[essex canary 622]

Webber could say ' I am sorry the fans are disappointed with the signings'.

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

30 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

Johnson has told MPs privately his 'apology' was a fake and he believes he'd done nothing wrong. Is that the kind of 'apology' you want from Webber?🤓

The public ‘apology’ barely amounted to one if anyone can be bothered to read what he said.

[lake district canary 4,830]

Boris only ever says what people want to hear.  He's always done it, for him, saying what people want to hear is more important than the truth.  Can't believe anythng he says. 

Anyhow, these apologies that people want from leaders are pointless. Yes, they could say they got it wrong, but that happens - especially in football.   I'll give Webber the benefit of the doubt - Farke, Pukki, Vrancic, Buendia, two promotions, all done on a shoestring budget.....and I think it is becoming clear - even to us happy clappers - that being competitive in the PL is tough for a club trying to build something long term on less resources than every other club.

Also - the season isn't done yet - if we get our best players fit and firing, there is still time to make something happen, even if it isn't enough this season to stay up. If nothing happens and we don't improve by the end of the season and give us some hope for the following season, then maybe that is the time for recriminations.

[canarydan23 4,762]

I agree with hogesar in that coming out saying "Sorry for the summer" would be completely counter-productive, both from a player confidence issue and financially. We're going to want to recoup at least a bit of cash for some of these flops and publicly admonishing them as a waste of money doesn't give you the strongest hand in transfer negotiations.

However, one Mr McNally might be due a private apology after Webber's "p*ssing money up the wall" remarks. If ever a comment has come back to bite someone in the backside, it's that for Webber. You just have to hope that unlike the likes of Naismith, we've been a touch more sensible with the contracts of people like Tzolis and Sargent so that they don't become financial millstones around our necks in the inevitable event of relegation.

Edited January 13, 2022 by canarydan23

[Thirsty Lizard 3,215]

2 hours ago, Mello Yello said:

More chance of finding Saddam's WMD's and gluing Sir Anthony Charles Lynton Blair's 'accidentally' shredded expenses back together....

Just puttin' a bit o' politics balance in there....

Thanks for the historical reference - not really relevant to the fact that a lying corrupt cretin is currently running the country is it? 

[Mello Yello 2,572]

1 minute ago, Thirsty Lizard said:

Thanks for the historical reference - not really relevant to the fact that a lying corrupt cretin is currently running the country is it? 

Just Bungling Boris lying then?.....So historically no other Prime Minister has ever been economic with the truth then? Whether they're left, right or whatever?.....

Oh, and you're most welcome for my historical reference.....Pleased you replied to it...... 

[Nora's Ghost 157]

19 minutes ago, Thirsty Lizard said:

Thanks for the historical reference - not really relevant to the fact that a lying corrupt cretin is currently running the country is it? 

Oh dear.

 

Get used to it because he is going nowhere.

[Badger 2,745]

2 hours ago, Worthy Nigelton said:

Being against contracts for your mates could also be argued to be the antithesis of right wing economics, in that the market should decide.

Being in favour of contracts for your mates is the essence of right-wing politics and economics. Free market economics (liberalism) is one section of the modern Conservative (and Liberal elements of the LDs) party.

Whilst free market economics generally protects the interests of the more affluent it does challenge some of the older historical interests of the Conservative Party, which is why the Conservative party was so divided in the early 1980s. The new "nouveau riche" elements of the party, often "low born" (like Thatcher and Tebbit) challenged and took over from the more traditional landed interests (Carrington et al).

All of the major modern political parties are ideologically divided.

[Worthy Nigelton 1,301]

3 hours ago, Badger said:

Being in favour of contracts for your mates is the essence of right-wing politics and economics. Free market economics (liberalism) is one section of the modern Conservative (and Liberal elements of the LDs) party.

Whilst free market economics generally protects the interests of the more affluent it does challenge some of the older historical interests of the Conservative Party, which is why the Conservative party was so divided in the early 1980s. The new "nouveau riche" elements of the party, often "low born" (like Thatcher and Tebbit) challenged and took over from the more traditional landed interests (Carrington et al).

All of the major modern political parties are ideologically divided.

You're correct in all you say... just depends how you want to label it I guess. I dont think being against contracts for your mates is left wing though. That's just knowing right from wrong.

[Crafty Canary 547]

9 hours ago, Petriix said:

Webber will probably claim he didn't know it was a transfer window.

In any case, the breach of Covid rules is nothing compared to the complete mismanagement of the economy and the shambles that it brexit. His party have more than doubled the national debt in 12 years, we've got the highest inflation in 30 years including energy prices more than doubling in less than 6 months.

While Webber has clearly made mistakes, he's obviously trying his best. BJ and his party on the other hand don't give a f*ck about you and me, they're all rich so it doesn't affect them.

It could be worse we could have had Corbyn and his loony mates in control. Just look at Doomwatch Drakeford in Wales and give thanks we avoided that.

[Petriix 3,219]

2 hours ago, Crafty Canary said:

It could be worse we could have had Corbyn and his loony mates in control. Just look at Doomwatch Drakeford in Wales and give thanks we avoided that.

I'm struggling to imagine how it could be worse. We've literally elected a corrupt liar. 

[Herman 11,136]

12 hours ago, TheGunnShow said:

I opened this thread wondering to see if the bouffant-haired cretin had resigned (meaning Johnson), or shot himself, or something. Sadly, I have to be disappointed.

Twelve hours later and I think he may have just shat himself.😀

[Nora's Ghost 157]

16 hours ago, Crafty Canary said:

It could be worse we could have had Corbyn and his loony mates in control. Just look at Doomwatch Drakeford in Wales and give thanks we avoided that.

Not to mention Labour's big money Chinese connections.

 

That really is corruption but hey....