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Simon Jordon says it how it is. He likes our club and manager but we are crap and an embarrassment to the PL.

 

We have had two back to back promotions and absolutely fcuked this up. Webber took massive respect for finding Pukki but judging by the majority of signings since Webber must have just got lucky. The recruitment team cannot identify what players are needed at this level.

 

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1 minute ago, Mullet said:

Simon Jordon says it how it is. He likes our club and manager but we are crap and an embarrassment to the PL.

 

We have had two back to back promotions and absolutely fcuked this up. Webber took massive respect for finding Pukki but judging by the majority of signings since Webber must have just got lucky. The recruitment team cannot identify what players are needed at this level.

 

Webber has no money to spend

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We have money according to Townshend. 50/60 million was quoted we just don't like parting with cash 

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If you can't pay premier league wages, you unfortunately get peanuts as has shown last time and this time. Delia must go.

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16 minutes ago, mastoola said:

Webber has no money to spend

Webber spent £50 million in the summer on a load of absolute ****. We accepted the excuse last time that there was no money, with Buendia going we had to invest wisely and we've fallen horrifically short. I appreciate they have better backing than we do, but it makes me sad to look at how well Brentford and Watford are doing when they didn't spend any more than we did in the summer from memory

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What Jordan suggests seems self-evident. It is undeniable that our performances are embarrassing both to the club and to the PL more generally.

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1 hour ago, AJ said:

Webber spent £50 million in the summer on a load of absolute ****. We accepted the excuse last time that there was no money, with Buendia going we had to invest wisely and we've fallen horrifically short. I appreciate they have better backing than we do, but it makes me sad to look at how well Brentford and Watford are doing when they didn't spend any more than we did in the summer from memory

They may not have spent more on fees but you can bet they are on wages. And wages is what attracts good players. We pay comparative peanuts wages wise compared to other clubs at this level. Always have. And we’ve got ourselves a complete safari park of monkeys.

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Simon Jordan is noise, the only really risk to us at present is if we spend / waste money buying players we can’t afford.  unless someone knows a investor who is willing to spend hundreds of millions on the club we should ignore the noise, and get on with supporting the team.

let’s be honest the premiership seasons are much less enjoyable than the championship ones, although less financially rewarding.  If staying up means averaging 1 win in 4 games all season, I would rather be in the championship and win at least as many as we lose.

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It's not the poor overall quality of the newbies - for all the data and spreadsheets, recruiting footballers is more of an art than a science and mistakes are made as often as not. It is the fact that we haven't even tried to fill the hole in defensive midfield which everyone knows exists, nor made any effort to find an understudy or support for Pukki. Instead we piddled around with wingers when we played a style of football which didn't really use them, at least in the sense of getting to the byline and lofting over a cross for a big guy in the middle. Webber's summer recruitment seems to have been much more about wanting everyone to stand back and admire him rather than analysing what was needed and filling the gaps, even if the players filling those gaps were less than what we'd get in a perfect world. 

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Our net spend is still only about 10 million after the fee we got for beundia. Estimates are that promotion to the premier league raises 100-120 million more than a season in the championship so there should still be plenty of money in the pot if not serious questions need to be asked. 

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We also need to stop saying we spent 50 million because you first need to subtract the Emi sale cash to realise we actually spent much less…in real terms. Very little ambition and championship wags once again. 

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1 hour ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

We also need to stop saying we spent 50 million because you first need to subtract the Emi sale cash to realise we actually spent much less…in real terms. Very little ambition and championship wags once again. 

Even their wives and girlfriends are second rate 😡

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7 hours ago, Newtopia said:

Simon Jordan is noise, the only really risk to us at present is if we spend / waste money buying players we can’t afford.  unless someone knows a investor who is willing to spend hundreds of millions on the club we should ignore the noise, and get on with supporting the team.

let’s be honest the premiership seasons are much less enjoyable than the championship ones, although less financially rewarding.  If staying up means averaging 1 win in 4 games all season, I would rather be in the championship and win at least as many as we lose.

Simon Jordon is spot on.. the owners need to go now.

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Until we an afford to pay fifty grand a week wages we will never compete. 

Its not rocket science and its eff all to do with webber.

All these bargains people keep claiming we miss out on simply would not fit in our wage structure. 

Face those facts. 

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Oh, so to be in the premier league you aren’t allowed to have a poor season and be an empressement to it now. And there was me thinking you got there on results. All this clamour about clubs ‘deserving’ or not to be in the league is very worrying as I can see a future where the only way you get into the PL is if you have rich owners - results don’t count. American sports leagues Mark II, come on down!

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10 minutes ago, astro said:

Oh, so to be in the premier league you aren’t allowed to have a poor season and be an empressement to it now. And there was me thinking you got there on results. All this clamour about clubs ‘deserving’ or not to be in the league is very worrying as I can see a future where the only way you get into the PL is if you have rich owners - results don’t count. American sports leagues Mark II, come on down!

The owners of Norwich City are not fit for purpose in the modern era and should not be anywhere near a modern football club. Any 'self funding' model is one of complete delusion.

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8 hours ago, Newtopia said:

Simon Jordan is noise, the only really risk to us at present is if we spend / waste money buying players we can’t afford.  unless someone knows a investor who is willing to spend hundreds of millions on the club we should ignore the noise, and get on with supporting the team.

let’s be honest the premiership seasons are much less enjoyable than the championship ones, although less financially rewarding.  If staying up means averaging 1 win in 4 games all season, I would rather be in the championship and win at least as many as we lose.

Your right, the Premier league seasons are less enjoyable because we’re an embarrassment every time we turn up. 

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2 hours ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

We also need to stop saying we spent 50 million because you first need to subtract the Emi sale cash to realise we actually spent much less…in real terms. Very little ambition and championship wags once again. 

Its called a net spend.

I think you'll find that Watford and Burnley have a very low average net spend over a long period of time, and yet don't end up the leagues whipping boys. You can't look at one year in isolation, better to look at average net spend over 5 years or something, and there are quite a few teams who don't really spend more than they receive.

The difference is that we have to keep flogging players to fill black holes because our owners can't tide us over for a year every now and again, and we waste money on vanity projects like Soccer Bots and corporate rebranding. 

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1 hour ago, Kenny Foggo said:

Simon Jordon is spot on.. the owners need to go now.

Simon Jordan didn't say the owners need to go - much  the opposite he likes our owners and how our club operates and thinks we're very well run - but didn't spend well in the window. He's talked about it several times.

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Mr Simon Jordan needs to be shown the new Canary and the Ball that is now central on our new club crest....."Mr Jordan, we address the problems that influence, which are current and what really matter Mr Jordan"....."Now please keep your comments to yourself you silly sausage".....

....(Oops, shouldn't mention sausage, look where that got us).....

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31 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Simon Jordan didn't say the owners need to go - much  the opposite he likes our owners and how our club operates and thinks we're very well run - but didn't spend well in the window. He's talked about it several times.

Sometimes the owners have got things right / got lucky over the years, sometimes they’ve got it wrong / had bad luck. Likewise, their appointed executives & managers have done well at times, poorly at others.

The rewards have been sparse and extremely  modest compared to pre-PL era (including our freaky first two years of the era) for our or any club.

 What we don’t see under their tenure is existential type consequences of errors/poor fortune. Even at our lowest (league- & quality-wise) point for decades in 2008, they were able to use it as a launchpad for relative success for the  years to come.

I don’t like Norwich being the PL whipping boys but it’s not entirely unpredictable and isn’t some national or local scandal as many empty vessels are suggesting. The team’s supreme  poor quality, relative even to our promoted rivals ,is nothing to congratulate  anyone on. Nor is it a justification for forcing S&J to sell the club to the next high bidder who comes by.

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42 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Simon Jordan didn't say the owners need to go - much  the opposite he likes our owners and how our club operates and thinks we're very well run - but didn't spend well in the window. He's talked about it several times.

Yes he didn't say they should go but he said we are an utter embarrassment and he is 100% correct. I feel that the only way to solve this is for new owners with a new vision. So 100% the owners need to go! So we bought appalling AGAIN in the window & we are well run? Ok..

 

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Why is it we are seen as well run yet the appalling transfer windows is nothing to do with our owners? Surely a well run club doesn't end up spending £60m and scoring ZERO goals since 30th November?

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11 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

Why is it we are seen as well run yet the appalling transfer windows is nothing to do with our owners? Surely a well run club doesn't end up spending £60m and scoring ZERO goals since 30th November?

I think because the owners don't scout players - and when owners get involved with transfers directly you know it's based on ego rather than football knowledge. I think being well run and making mistakes in the transfer window aren't mutually exclusive. Also with noting that our £60 million of bad signings equates to like, one bad signing for a top 4 club. 

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1 hour ago, komakino said:

The owners of Norwich City are not fit for purpose in the modern era and should not be anywhere near a modern football club. Any 'self funding' model is one of complete delusion.

If you look below us in the league structure you will see plenty of clubs who have, or who have had, supposedly richer owners than our present owners. So how then do you define ‘fit for purpose in the modern era’?

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