norfolkngood 1,087 Posted January 7, 2022 Dealing with the richest Club and we want 15 million ? home grown has talent to play PL who else would accept this ? Rinse them you get one chance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glory.win or die. 270 Posted January 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, norfolkngood said: Dealing with the richest Club and we want 15 million ? home grown has talent to play PL who else would accept this ? Rinse them you get one chance Athletico Madrid accepted £12m for Trippier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 496 Posted January 7, 2022 5 hours ago, lake district canary said: This has been like watching the tail wagging the dog ever since TC got into the first team. Stalling on signing contracts and so knowingly putting his value to the club down as time goes on. Losing his focus more than once when most needed and now the end result - the prospect of a cheap transfer out and disappointment for fans that he hasn't contributed as much as he ought to have done. He would undoubtedly say it is down to the club and the manager(s) but taking everything into consideration, it leaves a sour taste in the mouth. I've both praised him and criticised him over the last four years, but at this precise moment, I think the criticism outweighs the praise by quite a long way. Disappointing. If he stays, which he could, then he had better pull his socks up, grow up, stop playing the "the local boy done good" card and produce something that is worthy of a footballer earning as much as he does. Maybe. To what extent should the issues be put down to a young man in his 20s relative to octogenarians running the Club? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
astro 360 Posted January 7, 2022 We’re going to miss all of those man of the match performances. Just look at the number of times he’s pulled us back from the brink of defeat by playing a blinder…… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tricky974 61 Posted January 8, 2022 Apparently there are a couple of clubs interested in Todd or that could either be the club or agent talk, I'm not sure how real the interest is from Newcastle and especially with the financial power they have they may have other targets in mind. I suspect that as Todd is now apparently fully fit he will be in the team, and showing all potential buyers what he is capable of, but we shall see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star55 24 Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) Apparently spurs are interested in him now. This guy Chris cowlin is quite reliable who has 174,000 plus followers on Twitter. Edited January 8, 2022 by Star55 . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 517 Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, tricky974 said: Apparently there are a couple of clubs interested in Todd or that could either be the club or agent talk, I'm not sure how real the interest is from Newcastle and especially with the financial power they have they may have other targets in mind. I suspect that as Todd is now apparently fully fit he will be in the team, and showing all potential buyers what he is capable of, but we shall see. I am struggling with these rumours for Todd. He is a good player when his head is right. Which premiership club would he be a good fit for? I really can't see Conte and Beilsa seeing Todd as their sort of player. Liverpool is simply bonkers, where would he fit in? 4th or 5th choice winger. If I was at Newcastle I might have considered him if I was cash constrained, which they aren't. I get left thinking Burnley, Brighton, Brentford, or Watford, the latter purely to give them more homegrown players. The others I think he might get in and around the first team squad, although I am not sure about that. If none of those are interested (I have not seen any rumours associating Todd with them) he is back in the championship - or overseas. Then I am thinking what is the point. His situation is a distraction. Edited January 8, 2022 by Newtopia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 527 Posted January 8, 2022 I hope someone just buys him. Then we can move on. Personally don't want him joining rivals in Newcastle or Leeds. Liverpool would be best, as he'd never ever play for them apart from cup games! Maybe his ego would then land Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Overrated, over paid 22 Posted January 8, 2022 15 hours ago, Cantiaci Canary said: Newcastle like the player but 'at a lower price'! They can afford £15M without even noticing it! If we're selling to them we should hold out for at least £20M ... other clubs would. Wow, you really think a business will just 'not notice' £15 Million. Are you actually serious? 😂😂😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,379 Posted January 8, 2022 Fantastic breakout season in the Prem, threw a bit of a ****-fit before having an OK Champ season, appears to have had an even bigger ****-fit and has barely played let alone contributed to this season. If we could get £20m at this point thats a great deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted January 8, 2022 8 hours ago, tricky974 said: I suspect that as Todd is now apparently fully fit he will be in the team, and showing all potential buyers what he is capable of, but we shall see. Yes, I thought that too. We'll see - if he isn't, then that pretty much confirms he is on his way. It brings to mind a 3rd round fa cup game two years ago where he played where we put out a very second string team and he coasted through that game, barely breaking sweat, which I thought was disrespectful to his team mates and the fans. It looked to me like an "I'm too good for this" kind of performance. If he is picked, I think we will see a bit more effort from him this time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,915 Posted January 8, 2022 I hope he isn't picked for the Cup game. It's more important to give game time to our players who have been out injured or with Covid than provide a platform for a player who clearly has no intention of being any part of our future. As for the league games, Smith has to decide what to do. If he thinks that Cantwell will actually try in these games because he wants to put himself in the shop window, and that this might make it more likely that we get a result, perhaps he should play him. It doesn't send a good message to the other players who don't have attitude problems, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted January 8, 2022 14 hours ago, glory.win or die. said: Athletico Madrid accepted £12m for Trippier i imagine his age had something to do with that Todd should have another 10 years ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,137 Posted January 8, 2022 16 hours ago, lake district canary said: Piffle that quite a few people seem to agree with..... Is this where someone mentions Hitler? Also, a little ironic coming from the Punk Un’s very own Mr “I stick to my own opinions throughout and I don’t care what anyone else says”. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluefloyd 58 Posted January 8, 2022 Newcastle know that we need to release funds for transfers. Even if they were interested, why would they bung us £15m and give us a slightly less remote chance of survival over them? The club coming out and putting a price on his head seems unusual, and screams desperation for me - if true of course. I don't see him going anywhere. If Newcastle want him, it will be done at the end of the window to reduce our chances of making any signings with the cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 513 Posted January 8, 2022 Does anyone actually know what the situation is between Cantwell and his club or are we angry that he is either unfit or injured this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,415 Posted January 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, The Bristol Nest said: Does anyone actually know what the situation is between Cantwell and his club or are we angry that he is either unfit or injured this season? A lot of people like to think they do. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cantiaci Canary 557 Posted January 8, 2022 There's no way Cantwell goes this window. No one will pay £10-£15M for a player who is still so unproven and has made such a limited impact this season - for whatever reason/s. I genuinely think the Toon/Spurs links are just attempts by those clubs to spook other clubs into selling wantaway players for sensible prices ... Cantwell is a false Plan B. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted January 8, 2022 i Seriously think if he went to Liverpool you might not see much of him to start with but Klopp can make a player no doubt But that all depends on Todd Go to Newcastle and have great Nights out in the Toon Or go to somewhere where you will have to work 10 times harder than ever before and get the rewards after working under Klopp i think if he goes to Newcastle etc he will slip down the leagues go to somewhere with a extra strong Great manager and he has some hope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,657 Posted January 8, 2022 Imo for whatever reason, Todd seems to have gone stale here - clearly something happened with DF as he went from a starting XI player to training with the u23’s. He was then given a fresh start by DS, but hasn’t yet taken the opportunity. It’s not too late if he can get his head right, but the clock is ticking - no one is indispensable. I’d happily see him stay and play his part, but there’s little point (either for him or us) him being here unused so there may well be a decision to make and it could be time to cash in on whatever value he now has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted January 8, 2022 If he does get his dream move to somewhere like Liverpool or Spurs, they will be thinking he can fulfil his potential. I liken him to Conor Gallagher who plays very similarly to Todd - even looks like him to an extent and you could easily think this is Todd in this video....Todd at his best that is - and we haven't seen that at all this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow and Green 334 Posted January 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Cantiaci Canary said: There's no way Cantwell goes this window. No one will pay £10-£15M for a player who is still so unproven and has made such a limited impact this season - for whatever reason/s. I genuinely think the Toon/Spurs links are just attempts by those clubs to spook other clubs into selling wantaway players for sensible prices ... Cantwell is a false Plan B. It's more likely to be his agents circulating rumours to generate interest. It's basically the same situation to when Leeds were 'interested' in 2020, yet never made a bid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow and Green 334 Posted January 8, 2022 15 hours ago, essex canary said: Maybe. To what extent should the issues be put down to a young man in his 20s relative to octogenarians running the Club? It'll be down to Todd and his agents. The club have spoken publicly about securing their most valuable assests and getting Max, Jamal, Emi, Godfrey to long term contracts. Todd was the most difficult to deal with throughout those discussions (despite only playing a bit part role in the promotion season), and only signed 3+1 year contract later on, as opposed to a 5 year contract like the others. It's worth mentioning that Todd has the same agents (Elite Project Group Limited) as Josh Maja, who is infamous for running down his contract at Sunderland, which was documented on the Netflix series, Sunderland 'Till I Die. To be honest, I have been wanting Todd to prove his talents consostently throughout a full season - ideally at PL level. IMO he hasn't done that. 18/19 - he was a bit part player and actually got a bit of criticism for his performances, which was harsh on an academy player. 19/20 - He did well but his six goals flattered him, with a few being tap-ins. He was unable to influence games consistently and, as Farke put it, "Todd hasn't got an assist in 32 Premier League games". 20/21 - sulked at the beginning of the season and tried to engineer a move away, despite no bids actually being received. This prompted Farke to state that he'd "rather play the kit man". Showed that he is a class above the Championship with his performances in the second half of the season but I felt 6 goals and 6 assists was below what he was capable of.. especially when you look at Emi's stats. 21/22 - God knows. I always found his relationship with Farke quite interesting. DF often came out with lines like "we've helped Todd more than anyone else since we arrived at this club" but it seems like he has some kind of misplaced arrogance and a desparation to move. Emi proved his worth consistently over three seasons and deserved his move away, as painful as it was. I can't say the same for Todd. It just seems like he's shown 70% of his potential and acted like a bit of a brat throughout. As a fan, it's hard to comprehend why a local lad would be such a disruptive influence and be so eager to move away, which is why I'd suspect his agents have been influential. If only he could take a leaf out of Darren Eadie' book (or Hucks, for that matter)! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,137 Posted January 8, 2022 17 hours ago, essex canary said: Maybe. To what extent should the issues be put down to a young man in his 20s relative to octogenarians running the Club? Blimey, that Stuart Webber is wearing well. He doesn’t look a day over 65. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coneys Knee 953 Posted January 8, 2022 If we have to sell him to Newcastle this window, I’d take the £15m but how about Dwight Gayle as a realistic sweetener? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Coneys Knee said: If we have to sell him to Newcastle this window, I’d take the £15m but how about Dwight Gayle as a realistic sweetener? Wouldn't be a bad swap deal, that. Gayle's as proven as they get in the Champs and will give Pukki all the competition he can eat. Not only that, it frees Idah up for a loan. Obvious downside is his age. Edited January 8, 2022 by TheGunnShow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,308 Posted January 8, 2022 Time to get him out of the club and out of that number 14 shirt. Never did suit him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duke63 542 Posted January 8, 2022 Well at least we won,t have to worry about him being cup tied tomorrow if he is going to Newcastle. 😁 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingsway 94 Posted January 8, 2022 9 hours ago, norfolkngood said: i imagine his age had something to do with that Todd should have another 10 years ! Cantwell has no pace now so in 10 years time his legs will be well and truly gone! Combine this with the poor attitude and Cantwell could well be playing for his home Town club in 10 years time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paddycanary 539 Posted January 8, 2022 Something doesn't feel right about this Toon rumour, but if true, for ethical reasons we probably should knock a few million off the price after the Murphy & Lewis muggings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites