Uncle Fred 526 Posted January 3, 2022 The club is in crisis both on and off the pitch the club are being humiliated in the newspapers and we are the laughing stock of football We are in an open transfer window and yet we have heard nothing what so ever from the board about how they are going to address the multiple issues we have at the moment Not sure if this means they really don’t care or are like rabbits in the headlights either way there is no action happening what so ever if ever there was a need for new and energetic ownership it is now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,765 Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) They’ve lost tens of millions of pounds on poor transfers and look set to see over one of the worst teams in the leagues history. The damage control will be in full swing. It starts with blaming the fans. When we are 5-0 down in the next game and we dare to say anything negative “the club is disappointed from a small minority of some of the fans who were using swears yesterday” We are the easiest target. Edited January 3, 2022 by The Real Buh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,708 Posted January 3, 2022 Is it even the first working day of the year yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 606 Posted January 3, 2022 If we don't see any incoming transfers or investment in strengthening this squad during Jan then it's a very clear statement this board has no "real" aspirations of establishing ourselves as a Premiership club, despite what they've previously said. Webber wanted to be judged and believed strongly his permanent signings were good enough, but apart from Normann (who we might see very little of), & Rashica, none of Sargent, Tzolis, PLM or Gunn have looked to weaken us, let alone be good enough to strengthen us for this campaign. Williams hasn't been bad, but Kabak looks to have errors in every game he's played and with half a season gone (and reason to be able to provide a semblance of judgement) majority of these signings look extremely poor for this seasons fight. It's alarming there have been no messages or rallying cries from the board or Webber to offer encouragement, and imo that smacks of acceptance this club is going down again with a whimper. It's early in the Jan window, and astonishingly despite our position we aren't far away from safety so there should be every reason to look to rectify some of the summer signings and give Smith a fair crack at staying up. Will little ole Norwich & comfortable Smith & Jones come out fighting, or carry on hiding whilst we slip back into Championship again, having learned no lessons? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted January 3, 2022 Have to say one thing not being focussed on is the damage to our reputation snd brand from this season. We have become a laughing stock and are being regularly humiliated. The press have been scathing. It cannot help in terms of making it easy to get players to join us whether now or for another promotion attempt next season. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 606 Posted January 3, 2022 That's why I can't understand the stone wall silence from Webber & co. Like you say, NCFC is a brand, and a commercial business/football, and it's been severely tarnished this season. So you'd think they'd be trying to rectify that. I suppose the only up side is Webber rarely works in the public domain re: transfers & I hope he and Smith have identified players to attempt to improve things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,708 Posted January 3, 2022 How do you know they're not trying to rectify it? Have you got inside knowledge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035 Posted January 3, 2022 They can start by winning a football match. If they get themselves one or two places off the bottom , the press would at least have others targets to have a dig at We've still won as many games this season as Newcastle and Burnley put together 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,765 Posted January 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: They can start by winning a football match. If they get themselves one or two places off the bottom , the press would at least have others targets to have a dig at We've still won as many games this season as Newcastle and Burnley put together They can start with scoring a goal, or playing like they are putting some effort in. Baby steps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,633 Posted January 3, 2022 34 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: Have to say one thing not being focussed on is the damage to our reputation snd brand from this season. We have become a laughing stock and are being regularly humiliated. The press have been scathing. It cannot help in terms of making it easy to get players to join us whether now or for another promotion attempt next season. I made this point a few months back. A fair few posters, @chicken especially, firmly denied this to be the case. We are a laughing stock, and no matter what people at the club may think internally, it most certainly does damage our brand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted January 3, 2022 When- not if- we are relegated then this board and team will have little interest in being promoted again due to the humiliation. That is a big concern re competitive mindset 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WD40 726 Posted January 3, 2022 59 minutes ago, The Real Buh said: The damage control will be in full swing. It starts with blaming the fans. When we are 5-0 down in the next game and we dare to say anything negative “the club is disappointed from a small minority of some of the fans who were using swears yesterday” We are the easiest target. Getting my tin foil hat on - was there racist chanting at Palace players and Adam Idah? Can anyone that was there corroborate that? It was a convenient distraction. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,633 Posted January 3, 2022 I'm not sure what Webber coming out to release a statement will achieve. He'll toe the party line and protect himself and the board, whilst saying something along the lines of 'working as hard as possible to turn this around.' There's no imminent statement about ambition and new signings, as much as we all (rather fanciful) hope there will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WD40 726 Posted January 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said: I made this point a few months back. A fair few posters, @chicken especially, firmly denied this to be the case. We are a laughing stock, and no matter what people at the club may think internally, it most certainly does damage our brand. Totally agree. Most of the world used to have no idea who Norwich City are, now they know we’re an embarrassment of a football club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,762 Posted January 3, 2022 I dont get this embarrassment of a football club, media harming our brand etc etc. It all feels a little weak from so called fans. I dont think our football club is an embarrassment. Some of our performances this season have been. Some of them, not all of them. And the club is far bigger than one or even a couple of seasons. We won't have a problem signing players if we get relegated. January will be difficult to attract the right talent but that applies to any bottom three club in this window. Newcastle might be the exception Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 573 Posted January 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: Have to say one thing not being focussed on is the damage to our reputation snd brand from this season. We have become a laughing stock and are being regularly humiliated. The press have been scathing. It cannot help in terms of making it easy to get players to join us whether now or for another promotion attempt next season. When you say it will damage ‘our reputation’ and ‘brand’, what do you mean? I think for perspective young players we have still blooded them, and loaned them out so they can develop, I guess Idah is the exception. Players who aspire to play in the premiership might think we are their best chance of playing in the premiership. I guess for players who are already capable of playing premier league they will not fancy yo yo img if you mean with the national media, I really do not care what they think. NCFC represent Norwich and I will always follow them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,798 Posted January 3, 2022 Why would Webber care? He gets to leave end of the season with a big payoff and never has to say anything related to us again if we go down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,765 Posted January 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, WD40 said: Getting my tin foil hat on - was there racist chanting at Palace players and Adam Idah? Can anyone that was there corroborate that? It was a convenient distraction. Norwich fans shopped him so I’m confident it was accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,765 Posted January 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, hogesar said: I dont get this embarrassment of a football club, media harming our brand etc etc. It all feels a little weak from so called fans. I dont think our football club is an embarrassment. Some of our performances this season have been. Some of them, not all of them. And the club is far bigger than one or even a couple of seasons. We won't have a problem signing players if we get relegated. January will be difficult to attract the right talent but that applies to any bottom three club in this window. Newcastle might be the exception It’s the people that look over the fence and worry about what we are like compared to others that care. I couldn’t care less what Chelsea or Newcastle or whoever thinks about us. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,572 Posted January 3, 2022 Season ticket first deadline for renewal soon......I'm chomping at the bit...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hucks6 186 Posted January 3, 2022 What decent player wants to come here when we are relegation bound. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,708 Posted January 3, 2022 I can categorically state that we are not a laughing stock. It's another stick made up to beat the club with by those fans with an agenda ^^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 573 Posted January 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hucks6 said: What decent player wants to come here when we are relegation bound. I think players will come, whether they are good enough to keep us up and stay if we go down will be tough. I think our best bet would be experienced players who have fallen out of favour (like Duda) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 11,136 Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Wings of a Sparrow said: Is it even the first working day of the year yet? Bank Holiday Monday, 3rd of January. Man, this is going to be a long month.😭😀 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nora's Ghost 157 Posted January 3, 2022 They know that if they let the dust settle the easily mugged support will some to terms with the mess. No club in the land has such a passive and accepting fanbase so ultimately we get what we deserve time and time again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,765 Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nora's Ghost said: They know that if they let the dust settle the easily mugged support will some to terms with the mess. No club in the land has such a passive and accepting fanbase so ultimately we get what we deserve time and time again. And any resistance will be met with cries of abuse from the club and media and I don’t mean racist abuse btw before you somebody jumps on that one. Hold your fire. Racist abuse is bad, obviously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted January 3, 2022 57 minutes ago, WD40 said: Getting my tin foil hat on - was there racist chanting at Palace players and Adam Idah? Can anyone that was there corroborate that? It was a convenient distraction. Obviously someone shouted something construed as racist. Sounds as though they were reported by our own fans. Not sure that is the same as “racist chanting” as the term implies a bit more. But it does sound as though something happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted January 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, Newtopia said: When you say it will damage ‘our reputation’ and ‘brand’, what do you mean? I think for perspective young players we have still blooded them, and loaned them out so they can develop, I guess Idah is the exception. Players who aspire to play in the premiership might think we are their best chance of playing in the premiership. I guess for players who are already capable of playing premier league they will not fancy yo yo img if you mean with the national media, I really do not care what they think. NCFC represent Norwich and I will always follow them. I mean that to outsiders we are a joke. We are seen as a team that banks the parachute cash but then comes up and doesn’t really try to stay up or has no real chance of staying up. Other supporters actively now dislike our presence in the premier league as they say we bring nothing to it. The national media attack is at any given opportunity or worse are just disdainful.Much as we might like to think to the contrary this is damaging to the brand. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,762 Posted January 3, 2022 58 minutes ago, hogesar said: I dont get this embarrassment of a football club, media harming our brand etc etc. It all feels a little weak from so called fans. I dont think our football club is an embarrassment. Some of our performances this season have been. Some of them, not all of them. And the club is far bigger than one or even a couple of seasons. We won't have a problem signing players if we get relegated. January will be difficult to attract the right talent but that applies to any bottom three club in this window. Newcastle might be the exception I work with a couple of Chelsea fans and when they play the "embarrassing" card it's the easiest argument in the world to get out of. Yes, we're playing ****, but what's really embarrassing is celebrating winning trophies off the back of questionably acquired Russian oil money. We're starting a game of Monopoly with £50 against opponents with £5,000 and hotels on half the squares. Yes, this season it's annoying in that there are other teams in a similar position as us doing better (Brentford certainly, Watford can certainly pay more wages but haven't splashed much in transfers) but it's not embarrassing. If a flyweight goes up against Tyson Fury and gets knocked out within 15 seconds, can you really call it a humiliation or an embarrassment? But that's exactly what happens in modern day football and no one seems to think there is anything wrong with it. It's certainly not a sport anymore. I'm starting to wonder whether it can still be called football at the top level in England. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,708 Posted January 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, Nora's Ghost said: They know that if they let the dust settle the easily mugged support will some to terms with the mess. No club in the land has such a passive and accepting fanbase so ultimately we get what we deserve time and time again. And what are you doing about it...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites