Todays injury updates- Couple of players with Covid

[cambridgeshire canary 7,797]

'We have got a couple of players who have knocks, and a couple of Covid issues, but we can't give names at the moment. We're just awaiting PCR test results for those players and will wait and see what they are.'

Mathias Normann won't be available this weekend. He could make Villa on Tuesday but we'll have to see how he is.

Edited December 10, 2021 by cambridgeshire canary

[rock bus 1,059]

Interesting that Smith is a bit cagey with players names.

I've always wondered why managers are so keen to announce which players are fit the day before the game... surely you are better off leaving the opposition guessing if certain players will be in the team?

Farke in particular would almost announce the starting 11.

[Kenny Foggo 1,193]

So Spurs players get Covid and get games postponed, we catch it off them but have to play on with a depleted squad... hmmm

[Branston Pickle 4,149]

You ought to change the title as it is misleading - a few players have taken PCR tests as feeling slightly unwell.  They have not tested positive (yet) and would be in the squad if it comes back ok.  Hopefully it’s just one of the myriad of cold bugs going round as per usual at this time of year.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Branston Pickle

[Fuzzar 1,861]

I haven't ever guessed the starting XI correctly - this isn't going to help.

[Robert N. LiM 6,279]

It is ridiculous that the squad is not 100% vaccinated. 

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

55 minutes ago, rock bus said:

Interesting that Smith is a bit cagey with players names.

I've always wondered why managers are so keen to announce which players are fit the day before the game... surely you are better off leaving the opposition guessing if certain players will be in the team?

Farke in particular would almost announce the starting 11.

This was one thing that made me question whether Farke was a bit naive to be honest, him announcing when our best players were out, or pretty much telling opposition managers that we've got a full back carrying a slight injury who should be relentlessly targeted by their fastest player for 90 minutes.

Far prefer Smith to keep some cards close to his chest, keep people guessing until the team sheets are released. 

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

4 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

It is ridiculous that the squad is not 100% vaccinated. 

Where did you read that?

[Robert N. LiM 6,279]

21 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Where did you read that?

BBC site, reporting Smith's press conference

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

2 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

BBC site, reporting Smith's press conference

 

Matter of personal choice though isn't it.

What is your solution, mandatory vaccination? Doesn't sit right with me. 

There may be a link between the vaccination and the heart problems being suffered by professional athletes, I'd think twice if I were a footballer. The second jab gave me Myocarditis (heart inflammation). 

 

Edited December 10, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten

[Greavsy 2,645]

How do unvaccinated players get into the stadium? 

Surely the rules are the same for them as us fans, Proof of being jabbed or an negative LFT / PCR test?  

Different rules for footballers though, as always. 

[Robert N. LiM 6,279]

It is a matter of personal choice, but it really surprises me that a group of athletes, who presumably hang on the every word of the club's medics and sports scientists in every other sphere, have not taken their advice on this.

 

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

4 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

How do unvaccinated players get into the stadium? 

Surely the rules are the same for them as us fans, Proof of being jabbed or an negative LFT / PCR test?  

Different rules for footballers though, as always. 

Well hush hush yeah, in case the unvaccinated are our best players, could do without Pukki being banned from Carrow Road because some whiney busy body fancied snitching. 

 

Edited December 10, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten

[Robert N. LiM 6,279]

3 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

How do unvaccinated players get into the stadium? 

Surely the rules are the same for them as us fans, Proof of being jabbed or an negative LFT / PCR test?  

Different rules for footballers though, as always. 

They're getting tested twice a week, aren't they?

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

1 minute ago, Robert N. LiM said:

It is a matter of personal choice, but it really surprises me that a group of athletes, who presumably hang on the every word of the club's medics and sports scientists in every other sphere, have not taken their advice on this.

I'm sure plenty of people pointed out to Denis Bergkamp that air travel is the safest form of transport, didn't stop him driving himself to European fixtures. 

[Greavsy 2,645]

4 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

They're getting tested twice a week, aren't they?

I believe so, but we, the fans, have to comply too with passports / recent LFT etc to gain access. 

Wouldn't be surprised if some of the players (generally not specifially NCFC ones) declined that testing too.   

[Greavsy 2,645]

6 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Well hush hush yeah, in case the unvaccinated are our best players, could do without Pukki being banned from Carrow Road because some whiney busy body fancied snitching. 

 

Winning a game of football is obviously much more important than acting in the best interests to save lives. 

The show must go on...............

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

2 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

Wouldn't be surprised if some of the players (generally not specifially NCFC ones) declined that testing too.   

 And?

[Greavsy 2,645]

6 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

I'm sure plenty of people pointed out to Denis Bergkamp that air travel is the safest form of transport, didn't stop him driving himself to European fixtures. 

Slight difference though is that his decision only affected him and his well being, the one for the jabs / testing etc, protects others, probably more so than yourself. 

[Greavsy 2,645]

Just now, TeemuVanBasten said:

 And?

One rule for them....................one rule for us, that the same club enforces! 

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

Just now, Greavsy said:

Winning a game of football is obviously much more important than acting in the best interests to save lives. 

The show must go on...............

The show definitely must go on, you are correct there.

Coronavirus will not be remembered as a pandemic, because it will be endemic, it isn't going anywhere, accept it as part of the new normal.

[Well b back 3,603]

45 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

It is ridiculous that the squad is not 100% vaccinated. 

Why would that stop you catching COVID, the benefits of the vaccine is the protection given against serious illness.

[The Real Buh 3,765]

It’ll be Pukki and Krul knowing our luck

[Greavsy 2,645]

2 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

The show definitely must go on, you are correct there.

Coronavirus will not be remembered as a pandemic, because it will be endemic, it isn't going anywhere, accept it as part of the new normal.

Despite the risks, that will ebb and flow? 

Endemic? Its seems more widespread than that. 

• ENDEMIC is something that belongs to a particular people or country.

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

7 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

Slight difference though is that his decision only affected him and his well being, the one for the jabs / testing etc, protects others, probably more so than yourself. 

I got myself double jabbed, to decrease my chances of ending up in ICU when I inevitably catch coronavirus. We all will, it doesn't stop you getting it.

If I'm going to be live my life in fear of sitting next to somebody who isn't vaccinated, then perhaps questions should be asked about the effectiveness of the vaccine? 

Isn't an unvaccinated person going to a football is putting themselves at more danger than they are me, as a double jabbed person? 

When I see people like you pushing this "us and them" narrative it makes me understand how the sheeple of Germany fell for nazism. Life isn't that black and white. 

Also, everybody walks around saying that David Attenborough is a national treasure. He believes that we need to reduce the global population, isn't this natures way of doing that? Do we need 8 billion humans? Sad when somebody dies, but if something wipes out 40% of us at some stage.... its probably good news for the other 60%, and definitely good news for every other species of animal. 

 

Edited December 10, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten

[Robert N. LiM 6,279]

2 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Why would that stop you catching COVID, the benefits of the vaccine is the protection given against serious illness.

It reduces your chances of catching it, it reduces the chances of it being serious if you catch it, and, most importantly, the more people who have the vaccine, the greater the chance of immunity in the population (whether that population is a squad of professional athletes, or an entire nation). 

 

[Robert N. LiM 6,279]

2 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

If I'm going to be live my life in fear of sitting next to somebody who isn't vaccinated, then perhaps questions should be asked about the effectiveness of the vaccine? 

It's not about the single example. It's about probability. The more people vaccinated, the better our chances of not getting it, or not getting it seriously. The more people who get jabbed, the safer we all are.

[Greavsy 2,645]

2 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

I got myself double jabbed, to decrease my chances of ending up in ICU when I inevitably catch coronavirus. We all will, it doesn't stop you getting it.

If I'm going to be live my life in fear of sitting next to somebody who isn't vaccinated, then perhaps questions should be asked about the effectiveness of the vaccine? 

Isn't an unvaccinated person going to a football is putting themselves at more danger than they are me, as a double jabbed person? 

When I see people like you pushing this "us and them" narrative it makes me understand how the sheeple of Germany fell for nazism. Coronavirus 

Also, everybody walks around saying that David Attenborough is a national treasure. He believes that we need to reduce the global population, isn't this natures way of doing that? Do we need 8 billion humans? Sad when somebody dies, but if something wipes out 40% of us at some stage.... its probably good news for the other 60%, and definitely good news for every other species of animal. 

 

Fair and valid points TVB, and I agree with your view. 

The vaccine as it currently stands is, as I see it, a temporary one to buy us some time, whilst further investigations /  research / development goes on to improve this, as is happening all the time with other medical areas (albeit less aggressively) . Agree its not ideal, but its a far better place with the current vaccine offering, that where we would be without it, that's for sure. Hopefully those investigations will also mean less reactions for people like yourself too, so a broader spectrum can take it up without fear of reaction.  

[TeemuVanBasten 3,328]

2 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

It's not about the single example. It's about probability. The more people vaccinated, the better our chances of not getting it, or not getting it seriously. The more people who get jabbed, the safer we all are.

Its about you then? 

You want me jabbed, for you? 

I am jabbed, I did it for me. 

It can't be for the human race can it? Humans aren't on the endangered list, quite the opposite, there are far too many of us. We've become too good at not dying.

[Greavsy 2,645]

3 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

It's not about the single example. It's about probability. The more people vaccinated, the better our chances of not getting it, or not getting it seriously. The more people who get jabbed, the safer we all are.

Fair point Robert 

I also think that those of us that can have the jab should have it, to increase protection across the population  as you say, but also as a benefit for those who for medial reasons cannot have it (be that a first / second booster whatever).