Jed Maxwell 6 Posted December 8, 2021 I wondered if anybody is aware of plans for a minute's applause at Saturday's match in memory of little Arthur, similar to those we saw across the country last weekend? A truly tragic, unfathomable and devastating event, which as a family man continues to trouble me. I hope we have the opportunity to pay our respects. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sneider2 0 Posted December 8, 2021 Definitely - count me in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myra Hawtree 71 Posted December 9, 2021 We clapped for him at Spurs last week. Doubt it will continue this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naturalcynic 399 Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) During the match? What happens if a team scores during one of these minutes of virtue signalling? Or perhaps a player fails to score due to being distracted by the spontaneous applause? It’s just about ok to do these things before kick-off, but surely not during play. Edited December 9, 2021 by Naturalcynic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jed Maxwell 6 Posted December 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Naturalcynic said: During the match? What happens if a team scores during one of these minutes of virtue signalling? Or perhaps a player fails to score due to being distracted by the spontaneous applause? It’s just about ok to do these things before kick-off, but surely not during play. You don’t have many friends do you? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naturalcynic 399 Posted December 10, 2021 59 minutes ago, Jed Maxwell said: You don’t have many friends do you? Just off to play golf with 15 of them if that helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 533 Posted December 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, Naturalcynic said: Just off to play golf with 15 of them if that helps. Any children? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jed Maxwell 6 Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Naturalcynic said: Just off to play golf with 15 of them if that helps. You’ll be the one they hope pulls out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 297 Posted December 10, 2021 Would much rather everybody signed the petition asking to 'Give frontline social workers the funding they need to support vulnerable families' on change.org. We can't do anything for Arthur now but we can, hopefully, try to stop the disgusting abuse happen again. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jed Maxwell 6 Posted December 10, 2021 50 minutes ago, Yellow Wal said: Would much rather everybody signed the petition asking to 'Give frontline social workers the funding they need to support vulnerable families' on change.org. We can't do anything for Arthur now but we can, hopefully, try to stop the disgusting abuse happen again. Agree with your sentiments, surely we could do both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 4,193 Posted December 10, 2021 To be fair to the OP, he clearly hasn't intended it that way, but when someone says "as a family man" or "as a parent", it can sometimes really grate on the single and/or childfree as it can come across as infantilising their opinion/considering it less valid. But there's no doubt in my mind that those two should be in for life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,091 Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: But there's no doubt in my mind that those two should be in for life. I think thats too good for them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jed Maxwell 6 Posted December 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: To be fair to the OP, he clearly hasn't intended it that way, but when someone says "as a family man" or "as a parent", it can sometimes really grate on the single and/or childfree as it can come across as infantilising their opinion/considering it less valid. But there's no doubt in my mind that those two should be in for life. Fair point, certainly wasn’t meant that way. I would like to think any decent human being would find these events disturbing irrespective of status, and personally I would like the opportunity to pay respects. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheGunnShow said: There's no doubt in my mind that those two should be in for life. I think they should be lined up against a wall and shot between the eyes personally, if inmates haven't done the business for us within a few years, I'd volunteer to do it for free, the country is too soft. I'd go even further and throw them in with the big cats at London Zoo after a three day fast, I'd sell tickets to the event. These people are from a class of people that don't deserve to breathe. Edited December 10, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoolahoop14 124 Posted December 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Yellow Wal said: Would much rather everybody signed the petition asking to 'Give frontline social workers the funding they need to support vulnerable families' on change.org. We can't do anything for Arthur now but we can, hopefully, try to stop the disgusting abuse happen again. Completely agree with this. Whilst I appreciate the sentiment, the idea of clapping at a football match for a child who was essentially slowly tortured to death seems a bit.. crass to me? Why don't we all circulate the petition which may well result in action being taken that stops appalling incidents like this happening again in future? Why don't we all write to our local MP and express our disgust at what has happened and ask for them to lobby the government for more funding for social workers who can hopefully put an end to child abuse and support families who has been affected by it? This isn't directed at any of you, and again I appreciate the message that everyone is trying to get across with the applause (although I do find it crass), but as a country we've become obsessed with doing the bare minimum in situations like this. So long as we're seen to be disgusted/angered/saddened with what has happened, it doesn't matter if nothing is done to prevent it from happening again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Angry 1,277 Posted December 10, 2021 What happened to that little boy was absolutely horrific and as he was a Birmingham City supporter it was totally appropriate for them to make some kind of tribute, and really good to see Millwall fans joining in. For the rest of the football fraternity there is definitely more that we could do and @Yellow Wal's suggestion is a good one so here is a link to the petition. https://www.change.org/p/government-give-frontline-social-workers-the-funding-they-need-to-support-vulnerable-families 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites