Don’t be Krul 399 Posted November 24, 2021 Step forward our old mate Simon Hooper. Ably assisted on VAR by Jonathan Moss. Oh dear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,275 Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) (IMO) We mainly get so many poor decisions as the law of average applies when you're not making chances with positive play. If you apply pressure in this league you will get decisions. I really don't buy refs (like Hooper) being bias towards us, but if they are swayed by such things at least in Shakespeare & Smith we have a bit more presence to test officials consciences. I don't think anyone from the prawn sandwich brigade has much respect for Farke, or any of his staff. So no favours (If they exist?!). Edited November 24, 2021 by Google Bot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Hockey's Beard 527 Posted November 24, 2021 Please give him hell, the fat incompetent Son of an unmarried Mother. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,431 Posted November 24, 2021 For fück sake. Hasn’t that fat tösser given up yet ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,164 Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Oh, no! I've stuck so many pins into my effigy of that plonker over the years that he should have been totally hexed by now and condemned to officiating non-league football. I will always insist that his performance in the game against Newcastle that day did so much damage to Alex Neil's quest for survival at such an early stage in the season that the 'wee one' never quite recovered. His denial of that brilliant overhead kick from Jerome sent even Ian Wright into a fit of rage on MotD and left most of the Canary faithful numb, to the extent that years later we still harbour a grudge. Edited November 25, 2021 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christoph Stiepermann 1,135 Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Ignoring his decision making for a second, he's too slow and unfit to keep up with play, I've seen countless examples of him having to guess 50 50 decisions with us and in highlights of other games because he was too far away from the incident. Another one of countless blatant examples and not just in football of jobs for the boys Edited November 25, 2021 by Christoph Stiepermann Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,663 Posted November 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Christoph Stiepermann said: Ignoring his decision making for a second, he's too slow and unfit to keep up with play, I've seen countless examples of him having to guess 50 50 decisions with us and in highlights of other games because he was too far away from the incident. Another one of countless blatant examples and not just in football of jobs for the boys Yep, I dont believe he has any particular issue with us, he's just fcking useless all over. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,413 Posted November 25, 2021 Previously I've seen many reports of clubs requesting that certain referees no longer officiate their matches, for various reasons. I don't recall if any of these requests have been successful but assume at least in part some have. I've never seen Norwich request this, not specifically for Mr Hooper, just as a general observation. Nice Little Ol' Norwich again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 517 Posted November 25, 2021 I would have thought asking not to have a certain referee is essentially calling the individuals integrity into doubt, I would be surprised if the FA will stand for that. These referees are the best in the country, if we don’t like them I am not sure we can choose our own or limit the choice to the ones we like….. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,413 Posted November 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Newtopia said: I would have thought asking not to have a certain referee is essentially calling the individuals integrity into doubt, I would be surprised if the FA will stand for that. These referees are the best in the country, if we don’t like them I am not sure we can choose our own or limit the choice to the ones we like….. Totally agree, but I've seen various reports in the press of clubs reportedly having asked this. Also some fan driven petitions to ask the same, but that's obviously less official. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,413 Posted November 25, 2021 https://www.premierleague.com/referees/index Looks like they don't rate Simon Hooper either! Saturday will be his 4 EPL game this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glory.win or die. 270 Posted November 25, 2021 10 hours ago, hogesar said: Yep, I dont believe he has any particular issue with us, he's just fcking useless all over. I think Martin Olsson got in trouble for pushing or man handling him, I think a season or 2 before jeromegate ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Hockey's Beard 527 Posted November 25, 2021 11 hours ago, BroadstairsR said: Oh, no! I've stuck so many pins into my effigy of that plonker over the years that he should have been totally hexed by now and condemned to officiating non-league football. I will always insist that his performance in the game against Newcastle that day did so much damage to Alex Neil's quest for survival at such an early stage in the season that the 'wee one' never quite recovered. His denial of that brilliant overhead kick from Jerome sent even Ian Wright into a fit of rage on MotD and left most of the Canary faithful numb, to the extent that years later we still harbour a grudge. Palace, surely. They gave us a masterclass in how to win in the Prem - training ground routines, professional fouls, big strong players. But if Jerome's goal had stood the momentum would have swung our way and our recent history might have been very different. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ABC (A Basingstoke Canary) 26 Posted November 25, 2021 I knew this feel good factor couldn't last for ever, but this is a particularly nasty blow to the "you know whats". 👀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 637 Posted November 27, 2021 Couldn’t let the day go without commenting on his performance, booked Normann for his first foul then a minute later, a worst foul by the Wolves player goes unpunished, so so inconsistent. If Normann hadn’t got injured he would probably have been sent off for two yellows. Please, please retire this pillock. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,231 Posted November 27, 2021 Thought he did OK tbh. Could have given out more yellows. The wafting away of Jiminez's pathetic dive was good and I thought he was equally bad for both teams. Seems to have lost a bit of weight too, unlike the Wolves no. 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted November 27, 2021 I didn't agree with everything be gave, but he was no worse than any other Premier League ref. It's just part of football culture to criticise the ref regardless of how the game goes, especially if the ref once made a bad decision against your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,663 Posted November 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I didn't agree with everything be gave, but he was no worse than any other Premier League ref. It's just part of football culture to criticise the ref regardless of how the game goes, especially if the ref once made a bad decision against your team. Please note, I hate Hooper and have absolutely no idea how the bloke is refereeing in the prem, and that's not based just on our games. However its important I add that context because I'm going to disagree with you. He was a usual trainwreck often behind play, buying obvious dives and then not giving legitimate fouls. No consistency on what warranted a yellow card. The game had no real big calls to make yet you still knew it was Hooper refereeing which says everything you need to know. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted November 27, 2021 He was dreadful. As ever. Useless ****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,772 Posted November 27, 2021 He was **** as usual, luckily had no major decisions to make. Utterly stealing a living. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted November 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, hogesar said: Please note, I hate Hooper and have absolutely no idea how the bloke is refereeing in the prem, and that's not based just on our games. However its important I add that context because I'm going to disagree with you. He was a usual trainwreck often behind play, buying obvious dives and then not giving legitimate fouls. No consistency on what warranted a yellow card. The game had no real big calls to make yet you still knew it was Hooper refereeing which says everything you need to know. I still maintain that it's something ingrained in football culture that the ref is always crap and quite regularly biased against your team, no matter what happens out there on the pitch. If you look back over the last couple of seasons, I'm sure that the majority of our games have been followed a 'the ref was useless today' thread later in the evening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,431 Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) It doesn’t matter what we fans think. It’s what PGMOL think. Hooper is no spring chicken. He has had at least two catastrophic demotions (the first all those years ago after his one game on the prem when he disallowed Jeromes goal) where he is taken off Prem games for the rest of the season. The fact he is back on the Prem says more about the lack of numbers of refs at this standard rather than his ability . Last year he did 12 prem games. No sign of the “big six” - . Year before 11 games . Same If PGMOL rated him he would do Liverpool , Man City/ Utd, Chelsea , Spurs . But not a sniff . He isn’t deemed good enough. He isn’t up and coming . He is very poor . Edited November 27, 2021 by Graham Paddons Beard 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,342 Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: Last year he did 11 prem games. No sign of the “big six” - Everton was probably his highest placed club. If POGMOL rated him he would do Liverpool , Man City/ Utd, Chelsea , Spurs . But not a sniff . I don't know anything about how refs are selected. Surely in a league competition teams shouldn't get 'better' refs based on league position? Does this officially happen, or are you just drawing a conclusion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,431 Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said: I don't know anything about how refs are selected. Surely in a league competition teams shouldn't get 'better' refs based on league position? Does this officially happen, or are you just drawing a conclusion? You can draw your own conclusion Robert . Why doesn’t Hooper ever get the big clubs ? Are those games harder to ref ? Or are PGMOL hiding him from the media spotlight ? Edited November 27, 2021 by Graham Paddons Beard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,431 Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) I’ll just leave one other PGMOL story here. Why did we get Oliver for the Arsenal game at the Emirates ? Media attention because Arsenal were bottom of the league ? That’s how they roll… Edited November 27, 2021 by Graham Paddons Beard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northluck C 29 Posted November 27, 2021 He barely moved from the centre circle all afternoon. Literally not fit to referee. Luckily there weren’t too many big decisions in the game today for him to make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted November 27, 2021 Hooper is Too fat, too mentally unstable, useless, absolute liability. Shouldn’t be allowed near a football pitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,359 Posted November 27, 2021 Some very dubious calls. A few decisions I will wait to watch replays of, there’s an attempted tackle of Pukki that looked extremely dangerous at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,663 Posted November 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I still maintain that it's something ingrained in football culture that the ref is always crap and quite regularly biased against your team, no matter what happens out there on the pitch. If you look back over the last couple of seasons, I'm sure that the majority of our games have been followed a 'the ref was useless today' thread later in the evening. Oh, you're likely not wrong. Especially when, and I can't stress this enough, I have a genuine and pretty serious dislike for Hooper 😄 Saying that, we've had some poor losses where you wouldn't even mention the referee because they stuck to their task and were fairly anonymous - as you'd like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief stoker 21 Posted November 28, 2021 I had a conversation with Simon Hooper on the train yesterday coming back from the match and he admitted to getting the Jerome decision wrong. He come across as a nice guy and I couldn’t rant at him like I thought I would. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites