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[Ian 1,129]

I was extremely disappointed with how Farke was sacked, but accept there could be more to things than meets the eye.

That said, assuming Smith is appointed tomorrow - a week after DFs sacking, I find it difficult to understand how it could be played out as a farce/mess. The guy has proven Premiership experience, a desire to be at the club, and prove people wrong. Also seemingly the belief DF seemed to lack at this level.

Just because there's been noise in the press and Frankie boy is trying to save a bit of face, it hardly seems like the disaster some people seem to strangely want to make it out to be.

Edited November 13, 2021 by Ian

[Year of the tiger 54]

🚨 Norwich have a verbal agreement with Dean Smith to become their new head coach. Plan is a 2.5yr contract. 50yo was contacted by #NCFC immediately after leaving #AVFC on Sunday & emerged as 1st + unanimous choice. With @michaeljbailey for @TheAthleticUK

The tweet from the Athletic which should explain it to even our most obtuse supporters

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[Thirsty Lizard 3,155]

3 hours ago, Google Bot said:

If he was first choice, there's no doubt that we'd have known Villa planned to get rid. 

Don't buy it myself either, but it would also not surprise me.

Webber is on very good terms with Villa CEO Christian Purslow ......................... they were both at Liverpool at the same time. 

[Danbury Yellow 126]

Good to see the majority in this tread can see how this appointment probably panned out.  No idea why some appear to consider it was a mess, frankly no one knows the facts so why make stuff up? 
Either way, we have a new manager who starts afresh and should have every City fans support.  I’m optimistic about our future. 
Welcome Deano!!! 
 

[Bali Canary 11]

6 hours ago, Star55 said:

Seems like cantwell is happy with the news judging by his new Instagram post ‘Full of focus, believe me’ were his words. I would have upload the screen shot but I can’t seem to upload photos on here. Must be a good sign on his part and that he is ready to play again?? 

So he has decided to put his toys back in his pram once again. Until the next time he decides to throw a tantrum. 

[Budapest Canary 152]

Webber and Smith agreed weeks ago, Smith began to lose games to make himself available by the international break. Simple as. 😀 

[Canary Jedi 578]

9 hours ago, Ward 3 said:

Lol stress he was 1st choice. We booted farke before he left vile 

Agree it’s complete bo77ocks, they asked me first however we couldn’t agree terms because I wanted to be player manager. I think it’s quite reasonable as a middle-aged man don’t you?

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[Kingston Yellow 220]

11 hours ago, Branston Pickle said:

The hell I do - Vine is a complete and utter ****.

We’re not so far apart after all 👍

[Badger 2,405]

14 hours ago, mannings bandy legs said:

We'll never know,but would'nt be surprised if,given the connections within football,Webber was given the heads-up on the Dean Smith situation at Villa before Farke was sacked.

It was hardly a sock when Smith was sacked! In any case, they would not have made any "top choice decisions" until they had actually spoken to the candidates.

What we do know is that when the "It's Frank" headlines emerged, the club leaked the "Smith impressive interview" details and it was only after this that the "Frank's not interested" stories started to appear - strange that he left it a week to say so? 🤔 It's almost as if he was trying to keep face!

[Badger 2,405]

11 hours ago, Year of the tiger said:

🚨 Norwich have a verbal agreement with Dean Smith to become their new head coach. Plan is a 2.5yr contract. 50yo was contacted by #NCFC immediately after leaving #AVFC on Sunday & emerged as 1st + unanimous choice. With @michaeljbailey for @TheAthleticUK

The tweet from the Athletic which should explain it to even our most obtuse supporters

If there were odds available, I'd like a few quid on a bet that it won't 😆

[Big Vince 318]

17 hours ago, Monty13 said:

Maybe Smith knew Saturday and had already made contact with Norwich, not out of the realms of possibility.

To be fair though if the decision to sack Farke was made Thursday, no way he was first on the list then.

Purslow told Webber by the end of August that Smith was going to be sacked last weekend. So Webber has actually had to bide his time all this while and that was why Farke was only sacked the day before Smith. Nothing to do with Socialist procrastination at all!!

[Rock The Boat 1,326]

If he isn't good enough for Villa why is he good enough for us? Or do we only expect other team's cast-offs?

[Big Vince 318]

2 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

If he isn't good enough for Villa why is he good enough for us? Or do we only expect other team's cast-offs?

Ranieri had thousands of jobs in football before winning the title with Leicester.

[Big Vince 318]

18 hours ago, TIL 1010 said:

18:52

 

 

 

BREAKING NEWS

Dean Smith will sign a two and a half year contract to become Norwich City’s manager later this evening.

Terms were agreed verbally earlier today, and all the legal necessities passed. 

Norwich are likely to confirm the deal in the next 24 hours, and the club’s bosses will stress that Smith was their first choice from the start of the process to identify Daniel Farke’s replacement.

 

I told everyone this yesterday lunchtime, but some didn't want to believe.

[Capt. Pants 4,202]

If this close relationship between Purslow and Webber actually exists, don't rule out SW heading there at some point.

It's possible there is ongoing comms with Villa re Emi's transfer, so perhaps the two are closer than we realise. 

It seems very convenient that Smith became available when there weren't too many other options out there.

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

I am happy with Smith and Shakespeare to be honest, loads of experience, great man management (which given the Todd fiasco is something we need) and a proven record at all clubs he has been at. 

Bring it on. 

[thebigfeller 200]

36 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

If he isn't good enough for Villa why is he good enough for us? Or do we only expect other team's cast-offs?

Is our ambition European qualification or Premier League survival?

The former is Villa's, which is why they sacked Smith.

[PurpleCanary 5,554]

17 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

It has also been a classic example of how fans with adamantine prejudices have spun this. Such as anti-board posters claiming that Lampard was first choice and then turned us down, when there is not a shred of evidence to support that.

Another nail, from Freezer,  in the coffin of the Lampard-was-first-choice claim:

When Farke was dismissed after the 2-1 win at Brentford last Saturday, sporting director Stuart Webber inevitably had a list of preferred candidates. However, the following day Villa sacked Smith and that appears to have swiftly changed things. It’s understood City’s chief moved quickly and was able to squeeze in a face-to-face meeting before Smith flew out to the USA. A long-term admirer of the former Brentford and Walsall boss, it’s believed that Webber had his sights set – as long as Smith was ready to get straight back to work.

[Canary Jedi 578]

15 hours ago, Year of the tiger said:

 

The tweet from the Athletic which should explain it to even our most obtuse supporters

I didn’t realise we had an obtuse section of fans. Do they sit in the infill between City and River End stands? 😁

[Rock The Boat 1,326]

1 hour ago, Big Vince said:

Ranieri had thousands of jobs in football before winning the title with Leicester.

 

1 hour ago, Big Vince said:

Ranieri had thousands of jobs in football before winning the title with Leicester.

Vince, we are not signing Ranieri. Smith is not an upgrade to Farke. 

[Samwam27 519]

1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

If he isn't good enough for Villa why is he good enough for us? Or do we only expect other team's cast-offs?

How ridiculous. Smith kept villa in Premiership for two seasons in a row, so you could argue hes got exactly the sort of experience we need. Unfortunately Farke has failed at that.

We could get Guardiola and he might not keep us up. Villa have different aspirations to us so you cant compare Farke to Smith in that context

[Rock The Boat 1,326]

35 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

Another nail, from Freezer,  in the coffin of the Lampard-was-first-choice claim:

When Farke was dismissed after the 2-1 win at Brentford last Saturday, sporting director Stuart Webber inevitably had a list of preferred candidates. However, the following day Villa sacked Smith and that appears to have swiftly changed things. It’s understood City’s chief moved quickly and was able to squeeze in a face-to-face meeting before Smith flew out to the USA. A long-term admirer of the former Brentford and Walsall boss, it’s believed that Webber had his sights set – as long as Smith was ready to get straight back to work.

Webber's sights were set on A N Other when he sacked Farke as Smith was in employment  at the time. That other, if reports are to believed was Knutsen, about whom everything seems to have gone quiet. So it's not unreasonable to assume Webber missed out on his first choice but by chance Smith became available. It's significant that Archant are not asking about the failure to bring in Knutsen, them not wanting to rock the boat. 

[Rock The Boat 1,326]

3 minutes ago, Samwam27 said:

How ridiculous. Smith kept villa in Premiership for two seasons in a row, so you could argue hes got exactly the sort of experience we need. Unfortunately Farke has failed at that.

We could get Guardiola and he might not keep us up. Villa have different aspirations to us so you cant compare Farke to Smith in that context

 

3 minutes ago, Samwam27 said:

How ridiculous. Smith kept villa in Premiership for two seasons in a row, so you could argue hes got exactly the sort of experience we need. Unfortunately Farke has failed at that.

We could get Guardiola and he might not keep us up. Villa have different aspirations to us so you cant compare Farke to Smith in that context

Kind of more ridiculous to use Guardiola to support your argument. 

 

[Rock The Boat 1,326]

3 minutes ago, Samwam27 said:

How ridiculous. Smith kept villa in Premiership for two seasons in a row, so you could argue hes got exactly the sort of experience we need. Unfortunately Farke has failed at that.

We could get Guardiola and he might not keep us up. Villa have different aspirations to us so you cant compare Farke to Smith in that context

 

3 minutes ago, Samwam27 said:

How ridiculous. Smith kept villa in Premiership for two seasons in a row, so you could argue hes got exactly the sort of experience we need. Unfortunately Farke has failed at that.

We could get Guardiola and he might not keep us up. Villa have different aspirations to us so you cant compare Farke to Smith in that context

Kind of more ridiculous to use Guardiola to support your argument. 

 

[Rock The Boat 1,326]

1 hour ago, thebigfeller said:

Is our ambition European qualification or Premier League survival?

The former is Villa's, which is why they sacked Smith.

While it is true that Smith kept Villa in the EPL with a large slice of VAR luck, a better quality squad than us and Grealish, and apparently not good enough to take Villa beyond that, it still leaves the question whether he can do that again with a weaker Norwich squad shorn of Buendia. 

I don't think he can but Webber thinks otherwise. So let it be on Webber's head if it all goes wrong because I think Webber has screwed up the recruitment process by failing to land his first choice target and Smith is not obviously better than Farke. 

[Hairy Canary 668]

31 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

Webber's sights were set on A N Other when he sacked Farke as Smith was in employment  at the time. That other, if reports are to believed was Knutsen, about whom everything seems to have gone quiet. So it's not unreasonable to assume Webber missed out on his first choice but by chance Smith became available. 

Or……..

Knutsen was the first choice at the time of Farke’s dismissal but Smith became available the day after and was considered a better candidate. It’s simply a matter of choice. The fact that you disagree with that decision doesn’t mean Webber screwed up the recruitment.

[A Load of Squit 5,135]

12 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said:

Or……..

Knutsen was the first choice at the time of Farke’s dismissal but Smith became available the day after and was considered a better candidate. It’s simply a matter of choice. The fact that you disagree with that decision doesn’t mean Webber screwed up the recruitment.

It shows that Webber follows the mantra that it's a good idea to re-assess your thoughts when the facts change.

It reminds me of the last time I bought a car, I was on the way to buy the one I'd tested the day before when I got a call from a mate about another one that had become available, the alternative was better so I bought that one instead.

 

[Sussexyellow 55]

11 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

It shows that Webber follows the mantra that it's a good idea to re-assess your thoughts when the facts change.

It reminds me of the last time I bought a car, I was on the way to buy the one I'd tested the day before when I got a call from a mate about another one that had become available, the alternative was better so I bought that one instead.

 

Hmmm, buying a car that was not your original target. Probably best to resign from this board with your reputation in tact before posters on here are demanding you be banned.

[thebigfeller 200]

1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

While it is true that Smith kept Villa in the EPL with a large slice of VAR luck, a better quality squad than us and Grealish, and apparently not good enough to take Villa beyond that, it still leaves the question whether he can do that again with a weaker Norwich squad shorn of Buendia. 

I don't think he can but Webber thinks otherwise. So let it be on Webber's head if it all goes wrong because I think Webber has screwed up the recruitment process by failing to land his first choice target and Smith is not obviously better than Farke. 

Wrong. He took Villa to 11th last season. Why did you leave that bit out?

Webber has landed his first choice target and we've handled the whole process quite brilliantly. The media haven't had a clue throughout, and Lampard was a smokescreen. The tantrum throwing from some on here in the face of that is embarrassing. 

To put it another way: Daniel is gone. Get over it. 

[daly 500]

Would imagine that this was a last minute desperation offer when the others turned us down

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