kirku 1,332 Posted October 26, 2021 Hadn't seen this one talked about, can't say I disagree but it's refreshing to see commentary that's a bit more nuanced than the typical simplistic bilge https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/norwich-city-championship-premier-league-relegation-1267112 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,237 Posted October 26, 2021 Discussed here: It is a really good article, one of the best I've seen in the national press about City and surrounding issues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 240 Posted October 26, 2021 Good article, and some very valid points raised but no solutions given Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwans Big Toe 312 Posted October 26, 2021 We don't want to be owned by furriners, they are bad. Unless of course they are Welsh, who want to be their own country, they're the 'good' kind of furriner, a local furriner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benchwarmer 624 Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) Norwich in purgatory? If only. Purgatory is a place where there is hope for the future as long as there's a willingness to learn painful lessons. I see few signs of either in our present situation. Edited October 28, 2021 by benchwarmer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted October 28, 2021 This is probably the most accurate representation of our place on football I have read. It also states a clear fact, we have every right to resent the current state of football for how it essentially shuts us out of premier league football, and the championship clubs have every right to resent our promotions. Seemed a well balanced article to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted October 28, 2021 On 27/10/2021 at 00:26, Iwans Big Toe said: We don't want to be owned by furriners, they are bad. Unless of course they are Welsh, who want to be their own country, they're the 'good' kind of furriner, a local furriner. From your name to your comments, you aren't half obsessed by the Welsh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 880 Posted October 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, 1902 said: This is probably the most accurate representation of our place on football I have read. It also states a clear fact, we have every right to resent the current state of football for how it essentially shuts us out of premier league football, and the championship clubs have every right to resent our promotions. Seemed a well balanced article to me. The article is a breath of fresh air. However, I cannot agree with you about other Chs clubs having a right to resent us, as a good few are ex PL and so had the same money as us when relegated. In fact many had far more, as they would have received three years payments to our two. What they did was splurge on contracts and fees that could not be sustained outside the PL. Are we wrong to have avoided the reckless spend like there's no tomorrow approach. Living within your means. The reality is promoted clubs cannot built a strong enough squad in one season, without the risk of being a basket case if relegated. All we are doing is strengthening incrementally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted October 29, 2021 8 hours ago, RobJames said: The article is a breath of fresh air. However, I cannot agree with you about other Chs clubs having a right to resent us, as a good few are ex PL and so had the same money as us when relegated. In fact many had far more, as they would have received three years payments to our two. What they did was splurge on contracts and fees that could not be sustained outside the PL. Are we wrong to have avoided the reckless spend like there's no tomorrow approach. Living within your means. The reality is promoted clubs cannot built a strong enough squad in one season, without the risk of being a basket case if relegated. All we are doing is strengthening incrementally. I understand your argument, and I'm not defending the other ex-premier league sides in the Championship or criticising our management. We made a strategic decision which protects our viability and that is fair for us. However it is blatantly a massive barrier to those clubs who also live within their means in the Championship and feel like they have no feasible way of progressing, especially when we have taken one automatical slot in every other Championship season we have played in for about 10 years. As the article suggest, it's the system that's broken which has left such an extreme gap, not those clubs forced into making financial decisions which leave them in the space between the divisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,735 Posted October 29, 2021 Its only purgatory as long as we're in promotion contention every season we're in the Championship. It wouldnt take much of a slip for that not to be the case 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Dutchman 744 Posted October 29, 2021 15 hours ago, benchwarmer said: Norwich in purgatory? If only. Purgatory is a place where there is hope for the future as long as there's a willingness to learn painful lessons. I see few signs of either in our present situation. So no hope for the future at all for you? That's the spirit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sussexyellow 55 Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) The flaw in the article’s argument is that it is our relative wealth through parachute payments that fuels our success in the championship. Clearly not true for the 18/19 season, which is implicitly refereed to in their 1st, 20th, 1st, 20th sequence. We had to sell Maddison to keep our finances going at the start of that season. The expansion of the academy was funded largely by supporters through the bond. Promotion was achieved the hard way and whilst fully deserved came as a surprise to most of us. OTBC Edited October 29, 2021 by Sussexyellow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benchwarmer 624 Posted October 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Flying Dutchman said: So no hope for the future at all for you? That's the spirit. There is, but it depends on the club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,615 Posted October 29, 2021 Sorry, just reminded me of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites