Devastated, but time to calm down a bit

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

3 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Ok, we are all devastated to have such a bad defeat after the hope of the last two games, but the more I read, the more angry I get with those down and outs (binners and serial anti-club so called fans) that are coming on here who are here solely to fuel the flames of our disappointment - and those that fall for it and are wallowing in it.

So to you binners and those that like trying to make it worse for others, crawl back into your holes. 

Imo, we need to calm down a bit, there is more to life than football, there is hope and there is always the next game.

[The Bunny 309]

[priceyrice 123]

5 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Ok, we are all devastated to have such a bad defeat after the hope of the last two games, but the more I read, the more angry I get with those down and outs (binners and serial anti-club so called fans) that are coming on here who are here solely to fuel the flames of our disappointment - and those that fall for it and are wallowing in it.

So to you binners and those that like trying to make it worse for others, crawl back into your holes. 

Imo, we need to calm down a bit, there is more to life than football, there is hope and there is always the next game.

I always respect your positivity Lakey but I think fans are more than within their rights to be negative right now without being called Binners. I'm sure we will all turn up to the next game hoping for the best and supporting the team, but there is only so much of this awful football we can put up with before the vast majority of fans turn against the board / manager and coaching staff / players vocally at games. I hope more than ever that your positivity pays off but there has been no evidence of it for a considerable amount of time. I think change is needed now and I hate to say it as I have been a huge fan of Farke for years now. 

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

I would defend everyone's right to an opinion. Respect? Nah you have to earn that and anyone defending that performance or the recruitment of Mr Webber or the coaching or tactics of Mr Farke does not have my respect at the moment.  How can anyone defend the board and its constant belittling of the club I love...Bloody angry and not looking forward to the cr*p I will rightful get at work....

[littleyellowbirdie 2,541]

12 hours ago, Midlands Yellow said:

99% are Norwich fans who have every right to type what they like, just like you do. 

Spoken like a true football consumer/customer.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,541]

5 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

I would defend everyone's right to an opinion. Respect? Nah you have to earn that and anyone defending that performance or the recruitment of Mr Webber or the coaching or tactics of Mr Farke does not have my respect at the moment.  How can anyone defend the board and its constant belittling of the club I love...Bloody angry and not looking forward to the cr*p I will rightful get at work....

What about the club do you love? If you hate the board, the manager, and the players then all that's left to love is a logo. 

Edited October 24, 2021 by littleyellowbirdie

[Tumbleweed 106]

I hope LDC isn't a judge, we'd have people convicted/ acquitted without considering a shred of evidence. And that is the point. We are all upset/ angry/ whatever and all probably looking for signs that it is going to be ok. But there are none. Whatsoever. Last time in the EPL it was embarrassing. This time, remarkably, even worse. There is no evidence at all that this will improve, not one teeny tiny sign that Farke can turn this around. In fact all the evidence suggests it is going to get worse.

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

23 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

What about the club do you love? If you hate the board, the manager, and the players then all that's left to love is a logo. 

So the club only exists under these owners and staff?  Been going since 1972...

[Ken Hairy 3,771]

Interesting that you've included the word 'devastated' in the title, as I don't think you're devastated at all, I think you're bloody well enjoying all this. 

Edited October 24, 2021 by Ken Hairy

[Big Vince 318]

12 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said:

I thought you were a football visionary Vince, I really should not have to explain it to you but I will. Big Bad Bob had at his disposal arguably the best manager around at the time. Rather than work with that manager for the good of Norwich City FC he instead made that managers job as difficult as possible in the end that manager could take no more and walked out to join Leicester. Leicester won a couple of trophies under the stewardship of that manager, they became an attractive proposition and were eventually purchased by wealthy owners who took them to the next level, going on to win the Premier League. Meanwhile back at NCFC Big Bad Bob fiddled while Rome burned, Norwich were not an attractive proposition, he ran the club into the ground. Had he backed the best manager around at the time we would have been an attractive proposition and we would have been purchased by a stinking rich owner, we would be the established Premier League team, not Leicester, we could have been the surprise winners of the Premier League, not Leicester. So I say again it is because of the actions of Robert Chase all those years ago that we are where we are now, nice carpet, shame about the club...........

It beggars belief that there are still people like this who blame Chase for where we are now.

Firstly, all the numpty supporters and clappy happers think we are better now than under Chase. These supporters are the same ones who support the Socialists to the hilt in despising the EPL and all it stands for. Norwich fans don't want any wealthy owners. The mentality around here is Division Three South. Do you seriously think Martin O'Neill would have wasted his time here with these supporters? Or are you now going to blame Chase because Delia and the Carrow Road spin machine have subsequently brainwashed those supporters into what they are now?

Secondly, your argument exonerates the Socialists for all blame in anything and everything that has gone wrong in the last 25 years. So, to take your argument to its natural conclusion, the Socialists could wilfully damage the club, take it to the Bananarama league, wind it up on purpose and it would still all be Chase's fault. According to your argument the next time Chelsea lose it will be Ken Bates fault and the next time Man City lose it will be Peter Swales fault. This is just not tenable.

Thirdly, your facts are wrong. There was a 10-year gap between Martin O'Neill leaving Leicester and them being taken over by the Thais. Leicester were run-of-the-mill Championship when they were taken over and not the attractive proposition you claim. After O'Neill left the club they went into administration with large debts and the manager was banned from using the transfer market. They went through 11 managers in 8 seasons, including Worthington and everyone's favourite around here - Gary Megson!! The club was also relegated to League 1. Sounding familiar? Given what happened to Leicester after O'Neill and Norwich's own downward trajectory up until 2009, you can't really fit a fag paper between the two clubs. Only from 2010 did Leicester start to pull away. I would be very interested to know how you are going to pin that on Chase.

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,023]

1 hour ago, Big Vince said:

It beggars belief that there are still people like this who blame Chase for where we are now.

Firstly, all the numpty supporters and clappy happers think we are better now than under Chase. These supporters are the same ones who support the Socialists to the hilt in despising the EPL and all it stands for. Norwich fans don't want any wealthy owners. The mentality around here is Division Three South. Do you seriously think Martin O'Neill would have wasted his time here with these supporters? Or are you now going to blame Chase because Delia and the Carrow Road spin machine have subsequently brainwashed those supporters into what they are now?

Secondly, your argument exonerates the Socialists for all blame in anything and everything that has gone wrong in the last 25 years. So, to take your argument to its natural conclusion, the Socialists could wilfully damage the club, take it to the Bananarama league, wind it up on purpose and it would still all be Chase's fault. According to your argument the next time Chelsea lose it will be Ken Bates fault and the next time Man City lose it will be Peter Swales fault. This is just not tenable.

Thirdly, your facts are wrong. There was a 10-year gap between Martin O'Neill leaving Leicester and them being taken over by the Thais. Leicester were run-of-the-mill Championship when they were taken over and not the attractive proposition you claim. After O'Neill left the club they went into administration with large debts and the manager was banned from using the transfer market. They went through 11 managers in 8 seasons, including Worthington and everyone's favourite around here - Gary Megson!! The club was also relegated to League 1. Sounding familiar? Given what happened to Leicester after O'Neill and Norwich's own downward trajectory up until 2009, you can't really fit a fag paper between the two clubs. Only from 2010 did Leicester start to pull away. I would be very interested to know how you are going to pin that on Chase.

Well you would say that, I think you are related to Big Bad Bob..........

[Feedthewolf 4,846]

This thread is peak Lakey, attention seeking par excellence. Anyone who was there to witness that yesterday (and even those who had to endure it from the safety of a pub/their living room) have every right to be furious about the nature of yesterday's performance and question whether Farke has reached the end of his rope.

I would like to see him given the Leeds match to try to get a result, but should we have another poor performance and result next Sunday then it's definitely time to roll the dice.

I would love him to turn it around as I've got so much respect for the guy, but I don't see how he could survive defeat next Sunday.

 

[littleyellowbirdie 2,541]

8 hours ago, Kenny Foggo said:

So the club only exists under these owners and staff?  Been going since 1972...

So then it is just the logo for you then? 

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

15 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

So then it is just the logo for you then? 

So the club has always existed with this board. Club means giving over a chunk of my monthly wages EVERY single month to go and support up and down the country. Its the friendships you delevelop, the great memories watching us compete... Home games mean 6 hours travelling ever game (you?).

I think I have a right to voice my unhappiness at the shambles we are now, and unlike you, I think we could represent our fine City in a much better fashion. I would question, if any one is really that much of a City fan, if they don't see a need for change now. 10.8% win rate in the top flight under the current staff, 1 goal in open play, minus 21 goal difference... when is enough enough? When we have beaten Derbys appalling record? 

[littleyellowbirdie 2,541]

1 hour ago, Kenny Foggo said:

So the club has always existed with this board. Club means giving over a chunk of my monthly wages EVERY single month to go and support up and down the country. Its the friendships you delevelop, the great memories watching us compete... Home games mean 6 hours travelling ever game (you?).

I think I have a right to voice my unhappiness at the shambles we are now, and unlike you, I think we could represent our fine City in a much better fashion. I would question, if any one is really that much of a City fan, if they don't see a need for change now. 10.8% win rate in the top flight under the current staff, 1 goal in open play, minus 21 goal difference... when is enough enough? When we have beaten Derbys appalling record? 

I get being unhappy about it, I just don't get scapegoating and abusing people who have put a lot of effort into doing their best for the club off the pitch when it's those on the pitch that aren't delivering, which is invariably what happens when things go on a downturn after long periods of success. 

Edited October 25, 2021 by littleyellowbirdie

[Bonzo 198]

On 23/10/2021 at 20:52, lake district canary said:

Ok, we are all devastated to have such a bad defeat after the hope of the last two games, but the more I read, the more angry I get with those down and outs (binners and serial anti-club so called fans) that are coming on here who are here solely to fuel the flames of our disappointment - and those that fall for it and are wallowing in it.

So to you binners and those that like trying to make it worse for others, crawl back into your holes. 

Imo, we need to calm down a bit, there is more to life than football, there is hope and there is always the next game.

Exactly.

Tis but a scratch.

[Big Vince 318]

1 hour ago, Bonzo said:

Exactly.

Tis but a scratch.

Norwich City made into a global laughing stock.

And then you get LDC.

You couldn't make it up. 

[gazinOZ 4]

On 24/10/2021 at 04:38, Capt. Pants said:

The performance was a complete an utter disgrace, one of the worst I have ever seen.

On and off the pitch the club has been unprofessional this week, a total embarrassment and people need to be called out for it.

totally agree. after the first went in i was clock watching just wanting to be put out of my misery as quicky as possible.

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

3 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

I get being unhappy about it, I just don't get scapegoating and abusing people who have put a lot of effort into doing their best for the club off the pitch when it's those on the pitch that aren't delivering, which is invariably what happens when things go on a downturn after long periods of success. 

Abusing people? Not me... I just express an opinion but really try not to get personal. They may well be trying their best unfortunately it looks like their best is not good enough.

Long periods of success? Looks like our 2nd relegation in 3 seasons... 

Here's one.... the argument is there is no out there interested in us... put the club up for sale. Advertise it and all it's key elements. Let's see if that is true. Show the fans who and what was offered... end the argument once and for all... trouble is I don't think our owners would sell even if we found a suitable owner with better finances.

[Hank shoots Skyler 2,094]

3 hours ago, Bonzo said:

Exactly.

Tis but a scratch.

 

[littleyellowbirdie 2,541]

1 hour ago, Kenny Foggo said:

Long periods of success? Looks like our 2nd relegation in 3 seasons... 

Thats what I'm talking about : carefully picking facts that support an agenda. 

 

This has been a very successful period where the club has pulled back from the brink of financial collapse and built an academy system most clubs would kill for. But for the sake of establishing the club as Premier League bottom feeders all of that should be thrown out with the bathwater with a knee jerk plea for the latest out of work manager from a 'big club' 

[lake district canary 4,531]

On 24/10/2021 at 16:02, Feedthewolf said:

This thread is peak Lakey, attention seeking par excellence. Anyone who was there to witness that yesterday (and even those who had to endure it from the safety of a pub/their living room) have every right to be furious about the nature of yesterday's performance and question whether Farke has reached the end of his rope.

Have you actually read the thread's opening post?  It was aimed at those who are coming on here and fuelling the flames of our disappointment. It wasn't against our fans except for those that always jump on anything that goes wrong.  All Norwich fans will have been devastated about Saturday and that is how it should be, but there were too many troll accounts rubbing it in.

Oh and my appeal to calm down was a genuine appeal, because long lasting anger is not helpful to anyone. After the initial reaction, perspective is the key - and all along we were getting threads egging people on to be more angry. Not good.

Edited October 25, 2021 by lake district canary

[Midlands Yellow 3,974]

6 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

Have you actually read the thread's opening post?  It was aimed at those who are coming on here and fuelling the flames of our disappointment. It wasn't against our fans except for those that always jump on anything that goes wrong.  All Norwich fans will have been devastated about Saturday and that is how it should be, but there were too many troll accounts rubbing it in.

Oh and my appeal to calm down was a genuine appeal, because long lasting anger is not helpful to anyone. After the initial reaction, perspective is the key - and all along we were getting threads egging people on to be more angry. Not good.

Your not stupid lakey, you know your the fuelling the flames to get reactions. No ones angry with you they are laughing at your endless threads saying the same thing. 

[nutty nigel 7,528]

I don't think Lakey's the only poster saying the same thing on thread after thread after thread after thread. In fact some have been posting the same thing (with breaks when we win) for year after year after year...

[lake district canary 4,531]

45 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said:

Your not stupid lakey, you know your the fuelling the flames to get reactions. No ones angry with you they are laughing at your endless threads saying the same thing. 

My many attempts to counter the troll accounts and posts that foist on us exagerated negativity, are just a drop in the ocean compared to the ongoing bombardment of people loving anything that gives us pain to do with our club and rubbing salt into the wounds.  Do I do it for reactions?  I don't think so - I relish the opportunity to be able to have a voice in at least pointing it out to people - and generally I dislike negativity to do with the club, but my main aim is not for myself - it is to make people uncomfortable with having a more reserved and less negative view put to them. I enjoy having a voice and if that is "attention seeking" so be it. 

[Feedthewolf 4,846]

2 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Have you actually read the thread's opening post?  It was aimed at those who are coming on here and fuelling the flames of our disappointment. It wasn't against our fans except for those that always jump on anything that goes wrong.  All Norwich fans will have been devastated about Saturday and that is how it should be, but there were too many troll accounts rubbing it in.

Oh and my appeal to calm down was a genuine appeal, because long lasting anger is not helpful to anyone. After the initial reaction, perspective is the key - and all along we were getting threads egging people on to be more angry. Not good.

Fair comment. Although you know full well that if you post stuff like that just after a horrible performance that you're going to get shot down by everyone, moderates included. As you know, I'm more on your side of the fence than the people you're railing against... but there's a good reason I didn't come on here for at least 24 hours after the match. 

[Midlands Yellow 3,974]

1 hour ago, lake district canary said:

My many attempts to counter the troll accounts and posts that foist on us exagerated negativity, are just a drop in the ocean compared to the ongoing bombardment of people loving anything that gives us pain to do with our club and rubbing salt into the wounds.  Do I do it for reactions?  I don't think so - I relish the opportunity to be able to have a voice in at least pointing it out to people - and generally I dislike negativity to do with the club, but my main aim is not for myself - it is to make people uncomfortable with having a more reserved and less negative view put to them. I enjoy having a voice and if that is "attention seeking" so be it. 

No ones a glory hunter on here or they wouldn’t support Norwich obviously. Fans who follow this club home and away though have every right to strongly criticise the players, board and manager this season. For some it just doesn’t work telling yourself things can only get better when the evidence strongly suggests they won’t .