CirclePoint 200 Posted October 22, 2021 Todd’s attitude has probably got the better of him, again. Also, from what I’ve seen so far this season, he’s lightweight on the ball and the opposition don’t fall for his tricks, so he becomes stroppy and a liability. I guess I feel Todd is a poor man’s Cristiano Ronaldo. He simply needs to get his act together and step up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious yellow 184 Posted October 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: I'll back Farke over this little princess any day of the week. The truth is that Cantwell needs to grow up, acts like a teenager and he's almost 24. Any reason for calling him a princess? Something to do with the fact you think he's gay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 780 Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Duncan Edwards said: So, to summarise, Todd has been going through a rough time at home, understandably that has impacted him and his focus. Within the same period, he has been dealing with some little niggles that have caused him to miss training, he isn't "out injured", but he isn't ready for a Premier League game. He's turning out for the u23s this evening to help him reach that level of readiness and a couple of solid full weeks of training will help him massively. Hopefully he's back in the first team squad shortly then. Agree with this. What I don't agree with is people wanting him involved despite the fact he isn't in a physical or mental state to play Premier League football. DF has had the success here that he has through having high standards in training and demanding hard work and application from his players as well as a high level of fitness. Not sure how it's been badly managed either, if you're not in the right shape to play then you don't play, particularly if you've missed many training sessions. All pretty straightforward for me. Edited October 22, 2021 by Gordon Bennett 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted October 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, curious yellow said: Any reason for calling him a princess? Something to do with the fact you think he's gay? Why are you conflating sexuality with gender? Very backwards. I suppose you think all gay men are effeminate or 'camp' do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted October 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gordon Bennett said: Agree with this. What I do t agree with is people wantig him involved despite the fact he isn't in a physical or mental state to play Premier League football. Cantwell has just said he is mentally fine! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,615 Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, king canary said: The other concern here is that Cantwell not being involved is hurting his value right now. We were talking about £30/40m plus this summer, him not being involved will tank his value over time. I do worry about Farke's man management at time- he seems to fall out with a lot of players. I get he has high standards but you also have to manage different individuals differently. You can get away with it when you're winning but when you're bottom of the league, leaving your best attacker out due to differences over training will raise questions. Dunno, Farkes record has been pretty top drawer on this when you look at what effect man management has generally had on us. He got huge criticism for leaving Todd and Emi out start of last season, and they both came back and played excellent football and were major factors in winning us the title. Farkes standards have delivered us two titles in consecutive championship seasons, so im willing to go with it again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 780 Posted October 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Cantwell has just said he is mentally fine! He's said he doesn't have mental health issues, that doesn't mean his head is right to play for Norwich City, potentially very different things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious yellow 184 Posted October 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Why are you conflating sexuality with gender? Very backwards. I suppose you think all gay men are effeminate or 'camp' do you? No, look carefully, I'm asking you why you called him a princess. And suggesting a reason in your line of thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, curious yellow said: No, look carefully, I'm asking you why you called him a princess. And suggesting a reason in your line of thinking. Because he is effeminate and pretty like your typical Disney Princess. I find it highly odd that you would equate homosexuality with princesses, do you think that all gay men are cross dressers or are confused about their gender? Go back to the 70s you dinosaur, Hitzlesperger would have two footed you into next week. Edited October 22, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
komakino 272 Posted October 22, 2021 I don't really see if he's 'having a bad time at home' or such like, has much to do with his ability to play. Footballers are Professionals who should put things to one side. A Clough or Fergie wouldn't stand for that. They would be told to get their act together or be placed on the transfer list. It might be a case of six of one here, as Todd might think that even if he was fit and functioning, Farke's cautious approach to games means he won't get a look in anyway, except a brief cameo and he knows his future at his boyhood club is almost over - unless Farke is sacked. Whatever is going on, he has got the talent. The question is 'is there still a platform for him to use it?' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious yellow 184 Posted October 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Because he is effeminate and pretty like your typical Disney Princess. I find it highly odd that you would equate homosexuality with princesses, do you think that all gay men are cross dressers or are confused about their gender? Go back to the 70s you dinosaur, Hitzlesperger would have two footed you into next week. Effeminate? In what way? You think he's gay, effeminate and pretty so you call him a princess. And you think I've got problems? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Ward 3 said: Lol, what sort of reply is that. Ohh I don't know. I was bored but I still felt the need to reply for some reason. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,195 Posted October 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, komakino said: I don't really see if he's 'having a bad time at home' or such like, has much to do with his ability to play. Footballers are Professionals who should put things to one side. A Clough or Fergie wouldn't stand for that. They would be told to get their act together or be placed on the transfer list. It might be a case of six of one here, as Todd might think that even if he was fit and functioning, Farke's cautious approach to games means he won't get a look in anyway, except a brief cameo and he knows his future at his boyhood club is almost over - unless Farke is sacked. Whatever is going on, he has got the talent. The question is 'is there still a platform for him to use it?' If this continues to go badly then Farke has wiped several million off Todd's transfer value. It's so frustrating because this is the very last thing we wanted this season having lost our best player in Emi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted October 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Because he is effeminate and pretty like your typical Disney Princess. I find it highly odd that you would equate homosexuality with princesses, do you think that all gay men are cross dressers or are confused about their gender? Go back to the 70s you dinosaur, Hitzlesperger would have two footed you into next week. Probably not quite as far as Cantwell would two foot you, to be fair. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,615 Posted October 22, 2021 3 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said: He's 23, almost 24. The fact that you just wildly assume that he's so much younger might give some weight to those who think that he needs to grow up a bit? "Wildly assuming" a difference of 24 months doesn't really alter the point I was making, however Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, curious yellow said: Effeminate? In what way? You think he's gay, effeminate and pretty so you call him a princess. And you think I've got problems? Please tell me where I've said I think he is gay. I don't have conversations with people who make things up, I have never stated that I believe Cantwell is gay. Up to me if I find Todd Cantwell pretty really isn't it mate, I don't think that is something for you to have an issue with in the 21st century, got no time for your antiquated views, this is the UK not Alabama. Edited October 22, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted October 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, hogesar said: "Wildly assuming" a difference of 24 months doesn't really alter the point I was making, however Not for the first time, his head's gone in this thread. It's not quite as bad as his public foreplay with Buh the other week, but it's still a pretty entertaining spectacle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,407 Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, komakino said: I don't really see if he's 'having a bad time at home' or such like, has much to do with his ability to play. Footballers are Professionals who should put things to one side. A Clough or Fergie wouldn't stand for that. They would be told to get their act together or be placed on the transfer list. It might be a case of six of one here, as Todd might think that even if he was fit and functioning, Farke's cautious approach to games means he won't get a look in anyway, except a brief cameo and he knows his future at his boyhood club is almost over - unless Farke is sacked. Whatever is going on, he has got the talent. The question is 'is there still a platform for him to use it?' You've not really grasped the complexities surrounding mental health issues that haven't been out of the news for the last few years, have you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,674 Posted October 22, 2021 GOAL GOAL GOAL GOALLLLLLLL TODD CANTWELL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,075 Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, CirclePoint said: I guess I feel Todd is a poor man’s Cristiano Ronaldo. Despite being a wildly different type of player? Ronaldo is all about scoring goals, Cantwell creating. Ronaldo is a unit, fast, strong and a beast in the air. Cantwell is none of those. (I think Cantwell is good but I don't get the Ronaldo reference). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted October 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: GOAL GOAL GOAL GOALLLLLLLL TODD CANTWELL I wonder who the U23 designated penalty taker is, and why he didnt take it?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,256 Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Greavsy said: I wonder who the U23 designated penalty taker is, and why he didnt take it?! Kamara has been putting them home for U23's. No idea why he didn't take it, is it that curious? Maybe they felt Todd could do with a confidence boost through whatever he's been dealing with? Edit: Just seen that Kamara won the penalty too. lol Edited October 22, 2021 by Google Bot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Cantwell has just said he is mentally fine! De Nile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward 3 371 Posted October 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Google Bot said: Kamara has been putting them home for U23's. No idea why he didn't take it, is it that curious? Maybe they felt Todd could do with a confidence boost through whatever he's been dealing with? Edit: Just seen that Kamara won the penalty too. lol Dickson Peters normally takes the pens too doesn't he? I may be wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted October 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, Google Bot said: Kamara has been putting them home for U23's. No idea why he didn't take it, is it that curious? Maybe they felt Todd could do with a confidence boost through whatever he's been dealing with? Edit: Just seen that Kamara won the penalty too. lol Given what happened when Tzolis took and subsequently missed the pen against Liverpool and the following comments made by Farke. Especially given that Kamara won the pen too, he may feel a little aggrieved. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,615 Posted October 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Greavsy said: Given what happened when Tzolis took and subsequently missed the pen against Liverpool and the following comments made by Farke. Especially given that Kamara won the pen too, he may feel a little aggrieved. I'm pretty sure if a first team player is gaining confidence and form in an attacking position for the u23s Farke likely insisted Cantwell was on all set pieces. Thats pretty standard if you've ever watched u23 football, so in that sense this is nothing unique 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, hogesar said: I'm pretty sure if a first team player is gaining confidence and form in an attacking position for the u23s Farke likely insisted Cantwell was on all set pieces. Thats pretty standard if you've ever watched u23 football, so in that sense this is nothing unique Fair comment Hoggy. Just feel sorry for the usual taker, but yep is all agreed before hand, or is the norm, then seems resonable. I havent watched U23's (or reserves) for a while now. Done a couple 4- 5 years ago, but its mainly National league (Dagenham & Redbridge, when I get a chance) or my sons Sunday league team. Now thats a totally different ball game! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,217 Posted October 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, hogesar said: I'm pretty sure if a first team player is gaining confidence and form in an attacking position for the u23s Farke likely insisted Cantwell was on all set pieces. Thats pretty standard if you've ever watched u23 football, so in that sense this is nothing unique Yeah, think he’s skipper too. Probably on throw ins and goal kicks too, like an u11’s manager’s son on a Sunday morning. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward 3 371 Posted October 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Duncan Edwards said: Yeah, think he’s skipper too. Probably on throw ins and goal kicks too, like an u11’s manager’s son on a Sunday morning. Made me laugh but you're spot on. That's what happens in every team 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious yellow 184 Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Please tell me where I've said I think he is gay. I don't have conversations with people who make things up, I have never stated that I believe Cantwell is gay. Up to me if I find Todd Cantwell pretty really isn't it mate, I don't think that is something for you to have an issue with in the 21st century, got no time for your antiquated views, this is the UK not Alabama. What views? That's something you've made up. Just questioning your constant name calling and abuse. You obviously think that's very current and non princess-like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites