Jim Smith 2,314 Posted September 21, 2021 At marking as we are. Im sorry but something is fundamentally wrong with how the defence is being coached, we don’t close down crosses and then when they come in we have 5,6 or sometimes 7/8 players in the box, all marking space and leaving the attacking players completely unmarked. it’s pathetic and amateurish and it’s undermining all that we do. Farke can’t sort this. It’s been a persistent failing under him and we are losing any kind of continuity or identity trying to sort something that should be a coaching basic. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MORDENCANARY 71 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Jim Smith said: At marking as we are. Im sorry but something is fundamentally wrong with how the defence is being coached, we don’t close down crosses and then when they come in we have 5,6 or sometimes 7/8 players in the box, all marking space and leaving the attacking players completely unmarked. it’s pathetic and amateurish and it’s undermining all that we do. Farke can’t sort this. It’s been a persistent failing under him and we are losing any kind of continuity or identity trying to sort something that should be a coaching basic. Webber should act and get in a defensive coach.....if that sidelines Farke well so be it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowhammer 86 Posted September 21, 2021 Been a fan since 1969 got to be among the worst team ever just clueless and no one is standing out as a premiership player 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Dutchman 744 Posted September 21, 2021 Really? No professional team EVER? From ANY professional division? Crikey. Bit excessive. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,398 Posted September 21, 2021 The skill is there/ but too lightweight, too lacking in grit and too inexperienced 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,314 Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Flying Dutchman said: Really? No professional team EVER? From ANY professional division? Crikey. Bit excessive. At marking players from crosses no. It is unbelievable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,424 Posted September 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Yellowhammer said: Been a fan since 1969 got to be among the worst team ever You don’t remember the Peter Grant or Glen Rodent years then? It was cr4p tonight but you do need a sense of perspective Old Bean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
overthebordercanary 140 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, Jim Smith said: At marking as we are. Im sorry but something is fundamentally wrong with how the defence is being coached, we don’t close down crosses and then when they come in we have 5,6 or sometimes 7/8 players in the box, all marking space and leaving the attacking players completely unmarked. it’s pathetic and amateurish and it’s undermining all that we do. Farke can’t sort this. It’s been a persistent failing under him and we are losing any kind of continuity or identity trying to sort something that should be a coaching basic. The Delia happy clapper who sits in front of me gives me daggers when I shout stop the cross, anyone with any brains can tell we concede too many goals from crosses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,314 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, overthebordercanary said: The Delia happy clapper who sits in front of me gives me daggers when I shout stop the cross, anyone with any brains can tell we concede too many goals from crosses. I think they are marking zonally from open play as well as set pieces. I just don’t get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commonsense 618 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, Graham Paddons Beard said: You don’t remember the Peter Grant or Glen Rodent years then? It was cr4p tonight but you do need a sense of perspective Old Bean. I seem to remember losing 7-1 to Colchester in League 1. Still obviously this was worse!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Jedi 578 Posted September 21, 2021 John Barnes on Sky saying he has never seen zonal marking done the way we do it. The image is just before their first goal, no one is responsible to pick up the Liverpool scorer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,116 Posted September 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: At marking as we are. Im sorry but something is fundamentally wrong with how the defence is being coached, we don’t close down crosses and then when they come in we have 5,6 or sometimes 7/8 players in the box, all marking space and leaving the attacking players completely unmarked. it’s pathetic and amateurish and it’s undermining all that we do. Farke can’t sort this. It’s been a persistent failing under him and we are losing any kind of continuity or identity trying to sort something that should be a coaching basic. This... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Dutchman 744 Posted September 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: At marking players from crosses no. It is unbelievable. The. Worst. Ever? Some people on here need to have a little lie down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaunieboy77 73 Posted September 21, 2021 It didn't help with 3 players 'marking Origi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Fred 526 Posted September 21, 2021 Easily the worst premier league squad that we have ever had Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,223 Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Canary Jedi said: John Barnes on Sky saying he has never seen zonal marking done the way we do it. The image is just before their first goal, no one is responsible to pick up the Liverpool scorer Do you seriously think that? Gilmour was marking the goalscorer as the corner was taken. When he moved away he passed him on to Hanley who for some reason decided to attack the ball, despite there being two others doing that, and lost the header. The entire team is in our penalty area against 4 of their players and one of them is unmarked. That's an individuals error, not the fault of zonal marking. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted September 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Canary Jedi said: John Barnes on Sky saying he has never seen zonal marking done the way we do it. The image is just before their first goal, no one is responsible to pick up the Liverpool scorer He obviously hasn't heard of the Keystone Cops school of zonal marking. It's fairly popular in regional Germany. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Raptor 1,199 Posted September 21, 2021 ' I cannot ever recall a professional football team as bad' Have a look 40ish miles down the road Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,314 Posted September 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, The Raptor said: ' I cannot ever recall a professional football team as bad' Have a look 40ish miles down the road At marking. Read the post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert choice 24 Posted September 21, 2021 34 minutes ago, Uncle Fred said: Easily the worst premier league squad that we have ever had And the most out of his depth PL manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Raptor 1,199 Posted September 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, robert choice said: And the most out of his depth PL manager. Adams, deehan, megson Get a grip people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Raptor 1,199 Posted September 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: At marking. Read the post. 15 goals in 7 games. I guess none of them are down to poor marking and all down to Ipswich just being generally ****? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredherring 136 Posted September 21, 2021 Bryan Hamilton. Glen roeder. Peter grant. Bryan Gunn. Enough for you, you absolute weapon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,760 Posted September 21, 2021 I think the first and most poignant mistake that's happening with the coaching of the defence is that there's no coaching of the defence....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,202 Posted September 21, 2021 None of that back 5 should be anywhere near our first team ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Juler 148 Posted September 21, 2021 Maybe in training our defence looks good. Problem is in training it's up against our offensive players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 706 Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) The goals against column says it all. Some of those matches could have easily been more as well. We look like conceding at every set piece and every counter attack. This team will go down in PL history but for the wrong reasons. Both Derby’s and Ipswich’s PL records are in danger if he can’t sort it out Edited September 22, 2021 by Virtual reality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,314 Posted September 22, 2021 7 hours ago, fredherring said: Bryan Hamilton. Glen roeder. Peter grant. Bryan Gunn. Enough for you, you absolute weapon. I’m not saying Farke is bad at everything. He’s a better coach that the above overall. But in the specific area of drilling the defence he is failing totally and it’s that failing that is then dragging the rest of our game down because goals change games and we are conceding soft goals at key moments repeatedly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul101 93 Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Jim Smith said: At marking players from crosses no. It is unbelievable. you have a short memory then maybe old age is catching up under Alex Neil everytime someone got a free kick in our half it nearly resulted in a goal this lot as nearly as bad Gilmour was absolutly crap last night its a bad night when Rupp is the better of the three in the middle as for worst team ever again short memory when we got relegated from the championship that was the worst norwich team I have ever seen by a mile Edited September 22, 2021 by Paul101 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul101 93 Posted September 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: None of that back 5 should be anywhere near our first team ever again. considering Aarons has been just as **** all season but for some reasons gets a moan pass williams not that much better the turkish lad looked dodgy who will we play ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites