Monty13 2,229 Posted September 18, 2021 Pretty sure that was a penalty, think the ref just feels sorry for us now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 18, 2021 For those who believe we ought to be in the EPL, then you have to question whether DF is capable of doing that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: Have to agree that the questions about Farke have to asked now before it's too late and we're in it too deep. I don't get this. I thought everybody was on board with Webber's intention to establish us as a "top 26 side", so why would relegation faze anybody? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Starr 519 Posted September 18, 2021 My nan could have got at least ONE point from the last 15 Prem GAMES and she's been dead 20 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don’t be Krul 398 Posted September 18, 2021 It's all about levels, Farke is out of his depth 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,140 Posted September 18, 2021 This is gonna feel like a long season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted September 18, 2021 We've got some decent players, but some of the coaching, tactics and quite clearly with the defence is barely non-league standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 746 Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, keelansgrandad said: For those who believe we ought to be in the EPL, then you have to question whether DF is capable of doing that. Don’t forget the owners too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Starr 519 Posted September 18, 2021 Is Farke going for more club records? Least amount of points in a season maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K Lo 221 Posted September 18, 2021 Watford & Brentford 6 and 8 points ahead of already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City 2nd 191 Posted September 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: Have to agree that the questions about Farke have to asked now before it's too late and we're in it too deep. They are already in it too deep! Far to deep. question have to be asked not only of Farke but Webber too! Absolutely shocking even with the “supposed” quality he brought in so Farke didn’t have “one hand behind his back” like last time in the prem”. I have to say looks like he has two hands behind his back now!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 436 Posted September 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: Why has he changed the formation, why drop Andy o after a man of the match display, why can’t they do defensive basics. why can he not understand that you cannot be this open in the premier league? Because he'd have to admit he's wrong about Hanley. So, so ****ing wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,075 Posted September 18, 2021 I think part of the problem is the lack of cohesion. We have a lot of new signings and the understanding isnt there so far. Kabak and Hanley have no understanding at all it seems. First thing I came across when Googled Kabak was his mix-up with the Liverpool keeper on his first game I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, TeemuVanBasten said: I don't get this. I thought everybody was on board with Webber's intention to establish us as a "top 26 side", so why would relegation faze anybody? Because we don't want to see our team beaten, and embarrassingly, week after week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFN FC 1,118 Posted September 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, By Hook or Ian crook said: Defending isn’t just about the 4 at the back (who have been a shambles) it’s a team effort and starts from the front. The depressing lack of high press to try and win the ball back on the opponent’s half is nothing short of heart breaking for me Whenever we have actually pressed Watford look shaky. We absolutely needed to push them more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted September 18, 2021 Williams has been poor, bring Giannoulis back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RugbyCanary 94 Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, TeemuVanBasten said: I don't get this. I thought everybody was on board with Webber's intention to establish us as a "top 26 side", so why would relegation faze anybody? It's not so much faze.....it's more......I think he has the tools at last to make a decent fist of it. But, just seems utterly bereft of ideas! Why ditch 4-2-3-1 which has done well for us in the past? We need a link between midfield and striker(s). If we're getting bossed in the middle why play Gilmore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,224 Posted September 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: I don't get this. I thought everybody was on board with Webber's intention to establish us as a "top 26 side", so why would relegation faze anybody? Show me where I've said I'm happy with Webber's intention? I for one want us to play at the highest level possible! I also don't want us to be a ****ing joke every time we come up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 519 Posted September 18, 2021 Have been saying, and hoping, once we got Normann, that would allow us to go 4-2-3-1. Thought we'd adopt it against Watford, but we've been outplayed and out-muscled now against poor Arsenal, and now an average watford. 4-3-3 just doesn't work. Am beginning to wonder if Gilmour is too lightweight and trying to fit him in, isn't going to work One could forgive Kabak who hasn't played and may not have been match fit/sharp. He'll adapt, but we persist we Hanley. Bring back Omo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Starr 519 Posted September 18, 2021 Idah coming on in the 88th minute. What's the *&^&ing point seriously? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,562 Posted September 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Great Mass Debater said: Because Kabak was the one running with the scorer and let him get away For me the damage was done by the defensive leader sitting 5 yards behind the rest of the defence playing King and in an embarrassing amount of space. Hanley does his job and stays in line the goal doesnt happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, City 2nd said: They are already in it too deep! Far to deep. question have to be asked not only of Farke but Webber too! Absolutely shocking even with the “supposed” quality he brought in so Farke didn’t have “one hand behind his back” like last time in the prem”. I have to say looks like he has two hands behind his back now!! Four of the starters today were loan players so what exactly has been brought in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,224 Posted September 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, City 2nd said: They are already in it too deep! Far to deep. question have to be asked not only of Farke but Webber too! Absolutely shocking even with the “supposed” quality he brought in so Farke didn’t have “one hand behind his back” like last time in the prem”. I have to say looks like he has two hands behind his back now!! Absolutely fair point! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertociNCFC 98 Posted September 18, 2021 Look i've been supportive of Farke's reign throughout his entire time here and even attended almost every home game during the dismal 17-18 season. But when do you say enough is enough? He has been fantastic for us in the Championship and really cemented us a big fish in that league, but his style just doesn't translate to the top flight. It just feels like we have no game plan going forwards and we are scythed through too easily time and time again. I was hopeful after the defensive improvements to last season but we can see how well that's served us this season. As i've said in another thread, how can you excuse this after last time around and the rubbish start we have made to this one. Look what Lambert got out of the squad we had back in the 11-12 season and hell even Alex Neils group gave a better fight of things during his time here, it's just getting frustrating watching us stroll through games without any intensity to our attacks whilst even Watford look better drilled than us. Sorry just wanted to vent, getting incredibly frustrating to watch this game after game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted September 18, 2021 How can anyone still defend our defensive shambles under Farke? We continually make the same mistakes, game after game, month after month, year after year. How can we win a game when we can't even do the basics? It's just not good enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 436 Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, The Great Mass Debater said: I think part of the problem is the lack of cohesion. We have a lot of new signings and the understanding isnt there so far. Kabak and Hanley have no understanding at all it seems. First thing I came across when Googled Kabak was his mix-up with the Liverpool keeper on his first game I think Nah, too simplistic an excuse. These are top level footballers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony DaWonderful 35 Posted September 18, 2021 Huge Farke fan, but 3 more games and unfortunately his time will be up. Sad end imminent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, GodlyOtsemobor said: Show me where I've said I'm happy with Webber's intention? I for one want us to play at the highest level possible! I also don't want us to be a ****ing joke every time we come up! Show me where I said I was talking about you specifically, you narcissist with a god complex. Now, if you had any idea about my own opinions then you'd know I was being ironic anyway and consider top 26 to be unambitious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norwichsteve 1 Posted September 18, 2021 This is a huge loss. Can't even impose our style on them and are losing possession whilst 3-1 down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 240 Posted September 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: Why has he changed the formation, why drop Andy o after a man of the match display, why can’t they do defensive basics. why can he not understand that you cannot be this open in the premier league? Fully agree, Andy had earned his place based on the last game’s performances , Kabak and Hanley have not been a good pairing today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
