cambridgeshire canary 6,716 Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11696/12410774/derby-county-set-to-enter-administration-amid-financial-uncertainty-at-championship-club Oh dear oh dear. Just yet another example of how it could always be worse.. Edited September 17, 2021 by cambridgeshire canary 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,275 Posted September 17, 2021 And what has this got to do with Ipswich? (Asking for a friend) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardhouse44 261 Posted September 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11696/12410774/derby-county-set-to-enter-administration-amid-financial-uncertainty-at-championship-club Oh dear oh dear. Just yet another example of how it could always be worse.. Are you just the news? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Fred 526 Posted September 17, 2021 Lack of a stinking rich Chinese owner is coming back to bite them on the butt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiScot 1,443 Posted September 17, 2021 Shocker. Feel sorry for the Derby fans. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 761 Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Uncle Fred said: Lack of a stinking rich Chinese owner is coming back to bite them on the butt Mel Morris allegedly pumped £200 million into the club. Always seemed like a bit of retirement home for players who had accepted they couldn't make it in the Premiership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted September 17, 2021 58 minutes ago, KiwiScot said: Shocker. Feel sorry for the Derby fans. Quite, just supporting their local team. A 12 point deduction probably means relegation. What goes around comes around. Nobody lives forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,137 Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Uncle Fred said: Lack of a stinking rich Chinese owner is coming back to bite them on the butt You do realise who their owner is? Maybe google Candy Crush. Edited September 17, 2021 by Nuff Said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted September 18, 2021 Forest, Derby, Sunderland, Sheff Wed, Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton and Ipswich. Could be an interesting League 1 next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted September 18, 2021 Absolutely farcical that they avoided a point deduction last season. Feel for the fans but they deserve to go down. Feel for Rooney as well, can't think of anyone in recent history that's had a tougher first management gig! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number9 272 Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Surfer said: Forest, Derby, Sunderland, Sheff Wed, Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton and Ipswich. Could be an interesting League 1 next year. You think Ipswich won't have been relegated by then? Edited September 18, 2021 by Number9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted September 18, 2021 Without looking at the respective fan's forums, I guess Wycombe, Rotherham and Sheff Wed fans, couldn't give a hoot (at best). Also, some fans/pundits who take the rip out of how we are run, may (MAY!) re think and appreciate why we do what we do? Then again....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted September 18, 2021 They are getting a points deduction anyway so clearly decided to do this at the same time for whatever reason, presumably to make them more saleable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 953 Posted September 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, AJ said: Absolutely farcical that they avoided a point deduction last season. Feel for the fans but they deserve to go down. Feel for Rooney as well, can't think of anyone in recent history that's had a tougher first management gig! It is farcical, and they still may be getting a points penalty for that this season as well, but, I wouldn't feel too sorry for Mr Rooney, he's been getting his 90k per week throughout this ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,772 Posted September 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Surfer said: Forest, Derby, Sunderland, Sheff Wed, Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton and Ipswich. Could be an interesting League 1 next year. League 1 will have nothing to do with Ipswich next season, and no I don't mean because they'll have been promoted... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,291 Posted September 18, 2021 We're so very fortunate that even over a decade ago when at our lowest ebb, our magnificent club has never ever even come near, or anywhere close to administration...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted September 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: We're so very fortunate that even over a decade ago when at our lowest ebb, our magnificent club has never ever even come near, or anywhere close to administration...... It did when we went down to league one. David McNally confirmed it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,291 Posted September 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Real Buh said: It did when we went down to league one. David McNally confirmed it. Reeeeaaaally?........ .......Who'd have thought.....eh?..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Mello Yello said: Reeeeaaaally?........ .......Who'd have thought.....eh?..... I mean, we would have had options like selling land and the stadium and whatever but if McNally hadn’t re-organised the debt when we were in league one we would have been in some serious doodoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,291 Posted September 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Real Buh said: I mean, we would have had options like selling land and the stadium and whatever but if McNally hadn’t re-organised the debt when we were in league one we would have been in some serious doodoo I await the rising from their slumber of the club protectionists to tell us the real troof.....because they know.....they know..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted September 18, 2021 Why can't we be Wayne Rooney's De..... wait a minute! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted September 18, 2021 9 hours ago, Nuff Said said: You do realise who their owner is? Maybe google Candy Crush. Oops, googled Cherry Crush......a different flavour altogether.😉👍😇 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 762 Posted September 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Surfer said: Forest, Derby, Sunderland, Sheff Wed, Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton and Ipswich. Could be an interesting League 1 next year. Very much doubt Sunderland will still be in League One next season and Bolton are on the way back also. Derby will go with the points deduction but I would still wager Forest will get out of the relegation scrap under a new manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,745 Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, The Real Buh said: I mean, we would have had options like selling land and the stadium and whatever but if McNally hadn’t re-organised the debt when we were in league one we would have been in some serious doodoo It was Alan Bowkett not McNasty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, TIL 1010 said: It was Alan Bowkett not McNasty. There is as some serious bank shmoosing going on even delia got carted out to try and smooth it over I heard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,405 Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Jim Smith said: They are getting a points deduction anyway so clearly decided to do this at the same time for whatever reason, presumably to make them more saleable? The reasons are pretty obvious: if they were going to get a points deduction anyway administration means that they will only have to off only a small proportion of their non-football debts - something like 20% - I can't remember exactly. Mel Morris will lose control of the club, but will no longer have to keep shelling out for wages etc. Meanwhile Derby sold the ground to him a couple of years ago, so he will still get something back as new buyers of DCFC will either have to buy the ground from him or lease it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted September 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, Badger said: The reasons are pretty obvious: if they were going to get a points deduction anyway administration means that they will only have to off only a small proportion of their non-football debts - something like 20% - I can't remember exactly. Mel Morris will lose control of the club, but will no longer have to keep shelling out for wages etc. Meanwhile Derby sold the ground to him a couple of years ago, so he will still get something back as new buyers of DCFC will either have to buy the ground from him or lease it. Doesn't this all stink of corruption and lack of care for the club? Was Morris gambling it's well being by as many underhand schemes as possible, knowing that when the sh*t hits the fan, he'll be alright jack because he bought the stadium and set it up separately from the club? So grateful we have the set up we have now, no possibility of underhand or careless dealings of rich egos who don't really care about their club, only about looking after themselves. I know some say that administration is not such a big deal, but it's not something I would ever want to see at Norwich. Adminstration should be a last resort and people that led it there if through greed or negligence, held to account much more than they seem to be. Morris will walk away with nothing to worry about, leaving a club on it's knees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,291 Posted September 18, 2021 Hypothetically then.....If we unfortunately as a last resort had to go into administration over a decade ago.....Who would have been held to account at NCFC and would they still be at the club?...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 953 Posted September 18, 2021 3 hours ago, wcorkcanary said: Oops, googled Cherry Crush......a different flavour altogether.😉👍😇 You lucky fella Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,405 Posted September 18, 2021 2 hours ago, lake district canary said: Morris will walk away with nothing to worry about, leaving a club on it's knees. He is rumoured to have "invested" £200 million in the club, so although he will get some back from owning the ground he will have lost out overall. He is a textbook example of why rich fan owners go wrong - "just one more (usually aging) player, will make all the difference;" "just one more quick fix." "I want results and I want them now!" It just doesn't work that simply in football - having the money actually perverts the natural process of club development and as we have seen, so many clubs end up much weaker. A club Derby's size would have been promoted ages ago if they had built steadily rather than going for what they thought was "the easy route." Ditto Forest and many others. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites