cambridgeshire canary 7,798 Posted September 16, 2021 Feel free to hate them but that right there is a manager and a club that know how to survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROBFLECK 134 Posted September 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Feel free to hate them but that right there is a manager and a club that know how to survive. Hard to argue with this , but what is your reasoning behind sharing it? Do you want the same approach at NcFc ? ... I rate Dyche and I think he has done an excellent job at Burnley! But I rate DF too and he has done a great job here... Our team doesn't have the physical traits the Burnley sides have had the past few years , nor the tactics ... I suppose that is what you're getting at... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted September 16, 2021 I think their tenure in the PL is less certain this season more than in previous seasons. Big changes at the club and supporters not all on board with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelm Canary 404 Posted September 16, 2021 They don't offer much to the league. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thumbbass 367 Posted September 16, 2021 Look at the nuts and bolts of their squad and there are probably 4 players that would get into our team at the moment (Pope, Mee, Tarkowski, McNeil, Wood). Very much a team we should be competing with at a similar level of achievement and I will be disappointed if we aren't at least within 2/3 points of them by the end of the season, I really hope we can better them, and I think we have the talent this year to do so. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted September 16, 2021 I would not trade places with Burnley, that's for sure, nor would I trade our recent history of successes (and failures) for their stable but rather boring successes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,680 Posted September 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thumbbass said: Look at the nuts and bolts of their squad and there are probably 4 players that would get into our team at the moment (Pope, Mee, Tarkowski, McNeil, Wood). Very much a team we should be competing with at a similar level of achievement and I will be disappointed if we aren't at least within 2/3 points of them by the end of the season, I really hope we can better them, and I think we have the talent this year to do so. Thats five😁 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,680 Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said: I would not trade places with Burnley, that's for sure, nor would I trade our recent history of successes (and failures) for their stable but rather boring successes. I prefer our football for sure. But in reality its up to the Burnley fans what they want to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thumbbass 367 Posted September 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Thats five😁 Maths. Completed it mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,765 Posted September 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: I prefer our football for sure. But in reality its up to the Burnley fans what they want to watch. They're pretty split on him, online. But we know that forums aren't necessarily a reflection of the wider fanbase! https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=57026#p1641624 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) Burnley fans are loving it this season,16k in attendance for Brighton and 18k for Leeds. Edited September 16, 2021 by Midlands Yellow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mannings bandy legs 439 Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Midlands Yellow said: Burnley fans are loving it this season,16k in attendance for Brighton and 18k for Leeds. I reckon,in reality, the majority of Burnley fans are thinking, so,4 more years of long ball launching and hoping for the best. Would you really want 4 more yeras of that.I know it prob guarantees you premier league football,but not my idea of a day out!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 4,272 Posted September 16, 2021 I think they're pretty much goners this season, aged squad overrated manger who will come unstuck at some point. Only question is whether we go with them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,934 Posted September 16, 2021 What's most concerning with Burnley is how long they've been in the league, and yet still unable to spend out on players. Their wage bill sits around 100m/year, those attendances can't help either? It does make you wonder where we would be in 5 seasons if we stayed in this league, particularly with a different brand of football and good attendances. Is it possible I guess is what I'm asking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,330 Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) They've just spent £30m on 3 players this summer to complement a squad which stayed up comfortably last season. They have an England goalkeeper, and England centre back and in McNeil one of the brightest young players in the league. Chris Wood scores at least 15 every season; Barnes at least 10. What evidence does anyone have that for some reason they are suddenly doomed? Surely all of that makes them the ultimate self funded club? They have done what we are trying to do. Edited September 16, 2021 by sgncfc 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paddycanary 579 Posted September 16, 2021 True enough SG. Maybe I imagined it, but didn't Webber mention that we are trying to emulate their process of getting promoted, trousering the Prem income & then coming back up to make a better fist of it, improving the infrastructure & then having an extended stay in the top flight? But with (hopefully) a style & philosophy a bit easier on the eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,745 Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Google Bot said: What's most concerning with Burnley is how long they've been in the league, and yet still unable to spend out on players. Their wage bill sits around 100m/year, those attendances can't help either? It does make you wonder where we would be in 5 seasons if we stayed in this league, particularly with a different brand of football and good attendances. Is it possible I guess is what I'm asking? We have greater potential than Burnley. Bigger gates; better developed commercial department etc. Stripping out TV money, our revenue would be several million more than Burnley. They are in an even worse position now because their new "investors" have borrowed tens of millions which has to be paid back + about 9% interest p.a. to be paid on top. However, any club outside the top 7 or 8 is going to get relegated every few years. The key thing is not to get too saddled with debt so that you can come back up soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,745 Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, sgncfc said: Surely all of that makes them the ultimate self funded club? They have done what we are trying to do. They were - but then the owners sold to American investors for about £200 million. Much of this was paid for by borrowing that the club has to pay back an which is secured against the clubs assets. It is believed that they owe MSD £60 million at interest of over 9% p.a. It always amuses me when fans accuse us of having a poor succession plan! 🤦♂️ https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/02/burnley-us-takeover-has-left-club-90m-worse-off-and-loaded-with-debt 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 7,377 Posted September 16, 2021 The fact Dyche has signed such a contract tells me he's going to get more funds to spend. He's a superb manager, pound-for-pound and IMO one of the best in the top flight for consistently eking out the best from his men. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted September 16, 2021 1 point from 4 games. They obviously need to improve that - and quickly - to survive this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
